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a drunken hancock would be a better challenge for tony but he still would lose.

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Hancock wins easily. Love Iron Man though but he loses here.

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Hancock easily....he deflected a grenade shot with his palm!!! Iron Man's armour doesnt stand a chance against a slap from Hancock. Not taking anything from Iron Man though because i am a fan of him, but i really don't see how Hancock can possibly lose here. I mean the guy flew to the moon and carved something on it for all to see.
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isnt hancock invincible when he is by him self?
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people make me laugh comparing heroes with two different styles of handling things.  Firstly Iron man's Armor makes him strong, he is considered to have "Super" strength not superhuman strength.  That usually means a hero can lift at least 75 tons, his armor gives him the ability to compete with power houses like that hulk.  All though I must say I feel there are always gray area's in his victories over hulk.  Yes there are a few heroes with the ability to use any object they want as a lethal projectile with crack accuracy.  That does not mean bulls eye can flatten a metal surface into a disk sharpen it's edges with his natural fingertips and then use it like a buzz saw, nor does it mean that any of the skilled marksmen mentioned can cause harm with a candy bar that is just a reaching comparison to discredit Hancocks abilities.  I read Iron man books and yes he can fly at Mach 10 but his whole body cannot function that way we are just talking about his jet rockets, meaning he can only fly at super speeds he does not posses super human speed in movement.  Hancock does poses super speed in flight and in movement, he could rip starks armor off before he even knew  it.  Durability wise Daken can stab through Armor that is comparable to Ironman's, I don't even think he's as invulnerable as Honcock who has no weaknesses.  Tony stark is still just a genius in a super suit who you see rely more on his jet boots, pulsar canons and uni-beams then actual feats of strength.  Where was all this super strength when the Hulk was kicking his ass in WWH, don't make excuses about the hulks state either OK if this guy can top Hancock's feats of 100-200 tons  then he should not have went down that easily and to me he did. Hell even Spiderman gave him a hard time.  You think spiderman would have given Hancock a hard time with some webbing?  I'm sure some of you do though, with prep Iron man could probably slow hancock down but in the end it would be the end....for stark

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@Deranged Midget said:
"Hancock wins easily. "

I just watched the Movie by the way.
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@ComicStooge: Dude! Hancock is actually a pretty creative character! His powers and his weakness are far more interesting that Supermans! We know Supes origins, but Hancocks is uknown! Plus he's thousands of years old!  
 
If what your saying is true then every character that can fly or has Super powers are cheap versions of Superman. Heres a list of a few: 
Gladiator 
Sentry 
Hyperion 
Apollo 
Thor 
Mr.Majestic 
Quasar  
Hancock 
Beta Ray Bill
 
Which I guess all loses to Iron Man because they are all also cheap versions of Superman! LOL! You said it!! LOL!!!
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@InnerVenom123: LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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God no, Hancock is just some cheap version Super-man, Iron Man wins...

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HANCOCK WILL SLAUGHTER HYM LOL

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No superman is different. Iron man can take down Hulk the same way Spiderman can handle Juggernaut. He's not smart, can be easily tricked and fooled. He doesn't use tactics and brains just brute force. Smart people can learn to turn that to their advantage. Iron man used he's genius intellect to back off momentarily and create a hulkbuster suit. heck Batman could take down hulk with prep. Superman isn't dumb or an idiot. He isnt easily fooled and can use brains and tactics in battle. Plus he travels at light speed. all he needs to do is carry off Iron man some way into space and leave him there. Iron can only fly at Mach 5. If he is sent to the moon, 350 000km away he'll starve before he can reenter earth. Plus i doubt Iron can take heat beams twice that of the sun. about 20 million degrees. the most powerful atomic bomb ever detonated was 50 megatons and heat of 500 000 degrees Celsius. iron would need serious prep before facing off superman. Even if he got kryptonite supes can heat beam he's ass from a distance and recently superman has been seen functioning in battle even with kryptonite nearby for some time. 
 
Hancock is invulnerable, completely so, and can only be injured once he starts getting physically and emotionally close to he's wife. Iron mans beam wont harm him and he been shown to be a serious speedster. He isn't very tactical but he's been shown to be improving that stance.   he cut off a guys arm with blade and before his finger could flinch off the trigger of the dead-man bomb he caught he's hand. threw a blue whale (around 70 tons) a mile into the sea with 1 hand and without effort. derailed a train with he's shoulder without even flinching. got a truck thrown at him and he just jumped out like it was nothing. Sent a guy flying through a window with a candy bar (killing him). throws a kid several miles in the air casually. Survives reentry temperatures, Immortal, rapid regeneration and healing(when he got nearly killed around his wife he flew away and got healed).  High end caliber bullets and launched grenades bounced off hancock and he just dusted he's suit because they wrinkled it a little. If Mallen form Extremis gave him some trouble (even with he's extremis armour on Mallen nearly tore off the chest plate) and Hancock is definitely stronger and better than mallen then i'm sure he can give him some Hell. Hancock is bascially a analogue of  a superman who doesn't want to be super.

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I'm going with Hancock, but I mean f*** I've really underestimated Iron Man's strength/feats.  I was aware of the variety of his technology, gadgets, and speed, but I didn't know that he had sufficient skill to ko the Hulk.  I've always sided with Hulk if he fought Superman, but damn if Iron Man can do it Supes can...that's just dis-heartening.  Nice scans.  I can't help but picture a scenario, though, where Hancock simply sheers the metal armor from Stark's body.  Hancock was virtually indestructible until he was in the  presence of Charlize's character.  Yeah he didn't have a super powerful antagonist or anything, but the plot presented an interesting obstacle for him.  One thing that bugs me about Iron Man, how the hell can he move so  fluidly in all that armor? So fluid to the point where he can even dodge and counter Spiderman's attacks? Shouldn't the movement of the armor be somewhat clunky and slow? I've seen a scan where Tony ko'd the Hulk, beats the crap out of the Hulk on another occasion, reverts him back to Bruce Banner using his ingenuity on even another occassion, dodged and countered Peter's assault, crushed tanks like tin cans, and effortlessly survived nuclear-equivalent explosions.  Had no Clue he was that dominating...but then again he got man-handled by Thor...and Thor even has problems with Hulk so yeah.  It's so freakin difficult to get a clear consensus on comic chararcters because they're so inconsistent.  Ah but I digress, I still see Hancock winning the majority 8/10 times.  Possibly a little closer at 6/10 times if someone can convince me that it's possible for Iron Man to beat Superman without pis. 

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hancock easy
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hancock stomp

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Immortal...regen..invunrable to all harm even when fighting someone with his strength level..super sonic flight...and strength to toss a whale that weighed hundreds of tons without trying 
 
right ironman sooooo wins this 
 
please
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Isnt this the same Hancock who flew out of the atmosphere and painted a big heart all over the moon apparently within a few hours. So he's clearly no push over. Escape velocity is around 40320 km per hours and he was back from painting the moon in a few hours which is 350 000km away. Not to mention it would take a whole lot of paint to get the picture in as well as some chromokenetics. I dont think anything Iron man can do will harm him after all hes is supposed to be invulnerable except when he's wife. At least as far as the character premise is set.   

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What can hancock do? 
 
Hasn't ironman went up against hulk who I say can destroy hancock.
 
Iron man has dealt with more difficult fighters then a drunk ;)

 

 
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@Yaujtapool said:
" If this is Ironman from the comics he takes this with relative ease, theres nothing Hancock has done that he cannot do better. "
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@cascadeking09 said:
" @Dark Zoom: that really is the only time we ever see him get hurt, but at the same time he never really fought with anyone other than regular criminals with a few guns. "
yea i guess.....
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@Dark Zoom: that really is the only time we ever see him get hurt, but at the same time he never really fought with anyone other than regular criminals with a few guns.
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but we havent really seen hancock get hurt unless the girls around

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@Morpheus_ said:
" @Yaujtapool:Great scans, and those are merely from his Red & Gold. "
Yep people tend to underestimate his strength at times.
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@Yaujtapool:Great scans, and those are merely from his Red & Gold.
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@Static Shock said:
" @Yaujtapool: Damn! Iron Man appears to be much stronger than Hancock. "
Yeah, he certainly has the feats to back it up .
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@Yaujtapool: Damn! Iron Man appears to be much stronger than Hancock.
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Iron Man wins, but takes considerable damage to his suit. Iron Man also has better combat skills not to mention repulsor blasts that may not puncture Hancock's skin, but they can knock him senseless. Iron Man also won't just get into a brawl with Hancock. He will use his complete arsenal.
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@Surge2477 said:

" @Yaujtapool said:

"If this is Ironman from the comics he takes this with relative ease, theres nothing Hancock has done that he cannot do better. "
@Yaujtapool: I feel you somewhat. I just wonder about Iron Man battling a person who stops a speeding train as if he were getting hit by a small child on a big wheel. The armor can be damaged by someone with sufficient strength. Hancock also seemed to have a considerable amount of durability. "
Well that in comparison to some of the feats of his older armors doesnt account to much.
 
as shown below :
 
  
 
Now bear in mind that this is an older armor the newer one is far more superior, yet again Hancock hasnt proven to be superior to ironman at least from what i seen when viewing the movie, he might have superior strength and durability but its arguable not to mention Tony has more powers at his disposal.
 
The OP is also vague so its hard to judge the outcome of the battle since we dont know what version of ironman is being used, its location, how far they start off from, is BFR or BFD allowed, character morals apply etc ....
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@Static Shock said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" I respect that, but Iron Man is pretty durable himself. He can take shockwaves from nuclear detonations, his shields withstand nukes with 2% of overall power, he has sufficient store batteries to absorb energy directly from the Sentry to recharge himself, and is strong enough to KO the Hulk without any modules, has picosecond thought proccess, spider sense, reflexes to dodge Spider-man when he's trying to sucker punch him from behind, stealth mode, vision from satellites, technopathy, and Mach 8.7 top speed. He's no slouch. "
Man, f@ck this. Iron Man wins. Let's get it poppin'. "

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@Morpheus_ said:

" I respect that, but Iron Man is pretty durable himself. He can take shockwaves from nuclear detonations, his shields withstand nukes with 2% of overall power, he has sufficient store batteries to absorb energy directly from the Sentry to recharge himself, and is strong enough to KO the Hulk without any modules, has picosecond thought proccess, spider sense, reflexes to dodge Spider-man when he's trying to sucker punch him from behind, stealth mode, vision from satellites, technopathy, and Mach 8.7 top speed. He's no slouch. "

Man, f@ck this. Iron Man wins. Let's get it poppin'.
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@Static Shock said:
" To be honest, Hancock has only fought his estranged wife in the film, who was the only person that could match him, physically. Now that I think about it, fighting Iron Man (who is easily in his strength class, and probably just as fast in flight) isn't going to be as simple as I thought it was. "
Awesome.
 
@Surge2477 said:
" @Morpheus_: or one can even use ultimates iron man as he kept his plane from crashing "

I think it's fair to say this is the mainstream version of Iron Man. We can't use both versions interchangeably to each other.
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@Morpheus_ said:
" @Surge2477 said:
" @Morpheus_:  Stopping a train that has at least a dozen cars with one hand is an immpressive. he didn't budge or give ground an inch. I honestly don't know (or cares) who wins. However, I doubt if it's a curbstomp for either side.  "
I can go for that. Also - 
 


That's him pushing the neoclassic armor at its limits. "

@Morpheus_:

or one can even use ultimates iron man as he kept his plane from crashing
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@Fire-brand said:
" i just dont think that iron man can put a dent in hancock. hancock was never shown to take any physical damage except when whats-her-name was nearby. he stopped a train dead in it's tracks with him shoulder, and didn't even flinch. plus he has the reflexes to dodge most of iron mans attacks. "
I respect that, but Iron Man is pretty durable himself. He can take shockwaves from nuclear detonations, his shields withstand nukes with 2% of overall power, he has sufficient store batteries to absorb energy directly from the Sentry to recharge himself, and is strong enough to KO the Hulk without any modules, has picosecond thought proccess, spider sense, reflexes to dodge Spider-man when he's trying to sucker punch him from behind, stealth mode, vision from satellites, technopathy, and Mach 8.7 top speed. He's no slouch.
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To be honest, Hancock has only fought his estranged wife in the film, who was the only person that could match him, physically. Now that I think about it, fighting Iron Man (who is easily in his strength class, and probably just as fast in flight) isn't going to be as simple as I thought it was.

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@Surge2477 said:
" @Morpheus_:  Stopping a train that has at least a dozen cars with one hand is an immpressive. he didn't budge or give ground an inch. I honestly don't know (or cares) who wins. However, I doubt if it's a curbstomp for either side.  "
I can go for that. Also - 
 


That's him pushing the neoclassic armor at its limits.
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@Morpheus_ said:
" @Fire-brand said:
" @Morpheus_: yeah, but they didn't knock someone through a wall with a flick of their wrist. "
Spider-man has done that. Iron Man is more than 20 times stronger than he is.
 
In order not to get misunderstood here - I honestly don't care if Hancock wins, or not. It's quite possible that he curbstomps. I just haven't heard anything that would prompt me to --de facto- place him above Iron Man. It's kind of hard anyway. Iron Man has 50 years of feats, and Hancock has 2 hours.
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@Morpheus_: 
 
Stopping a train that has at least a dozen cars with one hand is an immpressive. he didn't budge or give ground an inch. I honestly don't know (or cares) who wins. However, I doubt if it's a curbstomp for either side. 
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i just dont think that iron man can put a dent in hancock. hancock was never shown to take any physical damage except when whats-her-name was nearby. he stopped a train dead in it's tracks with him shoulder, and didn't even flinch. plus he has the reflexes to dodge most of iron mans attacks.

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@Fire-brand said:
" @Morpheus_: yeah, but they didn't knock someone through a wall with a flick of their wrist. "
Spider-man has done that. Iron Man is more than 20 times stronger than he is.
 
In order not to get misunderstood here - I honestly don't care if Hancock wins, or not. It's quite possible that he curbstomps. I just haven't heard anything that would prompt me to --de facto- place him above Iron Man. It's kind of hard anyway. Iron Man has 50 years of feats, and Hancock has 2 hours.
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@Yaujtapool said:
"If this is Ironman from the comics he takes this with relative ease, theres nothing Hancock has done that he cannot do better. "

@Yaujtapool: 

I feel you somewhat. I just wonder about Iron Man battling a person who stops a speeding train as if he were getting hit by a small child on a big wheel. The armor can be damaged by someone with sufficient strength. Hancock also seemed to have a considerable amount of durability.
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@Morpheus_: yeah, but they didn't knock someone through a wall with a flick of their wrist.
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If this is Ironman from the comics he takes this with relative ease, theres nothing Hancock has done that he cannot do better.

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@Fire-brand said:

" has iron man ever killed a man by throwing a candy bar at him? didn't think so. "

Bullseye has killed a man with a toothpick. Ultimate Hawkeye with a nail. Is either of them stronger than Iron Man? Didn't think so.
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@Surge2477 said:
" IS IRON man strong enough to lift 300 tons? his strength is listed at exactly 100tons. "
That's indicative of his strength in terms of handbook rankings. He pales in comparison to the Hulk, Thor, Silver Surfer, Juggernaut, Thanos, and many other characters of that kind, but he has lifted weights and achieved things with sheer strength that place him above the 100 tons category. The rankings are a comparative (key word) way to understand who is generally stronger than someone else, but despite being listed at the upper levels of class 6 (75-100 tons), he, along with others have actually surpassed that.
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@Fire-brand said:
"has iron man ever killed a man by throwing a candy bar at him? didn't think so. "

@Fire-brand:

lol! lol!
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