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Why Americans will never accept Soccer as a "real" sport

 

Soccer as it is known to Americans, is the worlds most popular sport! It is played by millions in every country around the world. The world cup in 2006 had and estimated 700+ million viewers not including people inside and outside the stadium. The two biggest leagues (English Premier League and Italian Serie A) have more fans than the NFL, MLB, NHL or any other American professional sports league. The fans are amazing (I mean they riot for the most pointless games, yet in the US you have to win a World Series to riot). Games have near 100,000 people at them, every one sings songs, drinks, celebrates, and cheers on their favorite club. Every one I know that has traveled to Europe and gone to a match has become a soccer fan because of the atmosphere at a game. Yet why do Americans still consider it a "sissy" sport? Professional Soccer players or as Americans insist on calling them "Foot fairies" have a skill and athletic ability that most people can only dream of. This years world cup takes place in South Africa from June 11th through July 11th. The United States actually has a good team this year yet no body seems to care. Is this because the MLS has been a huge failure? Or are people in America too stubborn to realize that this sport is truly a great sport! Sorry Americans but your version of Football is only watched by 1 country, REAL FOOTBALL is watched in every country in the world! Does any one know why soccer cannot be accepted in the United States?

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You're from Peru dude?

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@Supreme Marvel said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" @Chocolate Lantern:  As far as the reason to why Soccer is less popular in America, it's because Football, Baseball, and Basketball have all been being played for around a century. They are just ingrained in American culture. Soccer (football) came around in America a lot later and has seriously been growing in popularity. Baseball, basketball and American football have been around since the days when America was taking an isolationist approach. Now that America is globally reaching out Soccer is becoming slowly very popular. However the  American culture still revolves around the big 3. "
I understand what you mean. Like football as been here for centuries. And apparently, to my knowledge, an Englishman was fed up with using his feet probably weren't any good, so he picked the ball up and not long form that rugby was made. That got popular in American and then American Football was made. This was like late 18 hundreds. "
Right. Basically Football and Baseball are like I said ingrained into American culture. Growing up our heroes are football or baseball or basketball players. We see ourselves as Bart Starr, or Roger Staubach, or Dan Marino in our back yards. We play stickball in the yard with our friends and pretend we are Joe DiMaggio or Ken Griffey Jr.  My Dad gave me a football as soon as I could walk, I got a baseball glove when I was six. We used to play catch for hours, just me and my Dad. It's a father son bonding thing. Fathers hope their sons will grow up to be football or baseball or basketball stars....at least thats my take.
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@MKF30 said:
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lol, the clock comment was a general statement not aimed at you Supreme...you seem a tad bit defensive...but just other incorrect posts here about sports....  

And my opinion just as yours and everyone elses here is what we all like, but that doesn't alter the fact that your list was off...with your top 10 in rank.....india having more people then America proves nothing though you should know....like you were telling me before, about "the world doesn't revolve around america" well it doesn't revolve around India or any other individual country either...lol I can make up the difference with Latin america, US, Canada and various parts of Asia who play Baseball...just saying ;)
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Why was my list off? I said from my head. I named them. Like I guess you did with your players. These players are known around the world, maybe not most of America though.
And the India having more people was to show you that if more people are watching a sport then that would be classes as more popular. I could easily have said Africa, Europe etc to add the numbers up.
Example.
300 Million people watch Tennis
350 Million people watch Swimming
The people watching the swimming would be classed as being more popular

Cricket I know is popular in Europe mainly and India, but on this side of the world totally different story...America, Canada and Latin America there isn't any well known, huge Cricket leagues....those regions it's typically all Soccer, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey and American Football...


India have a Huge Cricket league, I just don't know what it is called.

 I also didn't ask for anyone to list legends

  
you said before...

 now you talk Soccer legends? How many are there? lol exactly.


 
so I named some.
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Yeah, no dude lol I wasn't talking about the players you listed(I'm sure they're are legends) of soccer but your other list about top sports..  
 
In terms of most watched? That varies, the Yankees for one are VERY watched and have a national audience around US, and even Canada, Worldwide, Japan you'd be surprised how many people outside the US love the Yankees... 
 
We have a NY soccer team here but nobody cares about them, I did see their new stadium it's nice but there's just no scene for it here..that's where like Luna stated, you have different cultures and parts of the world that enjoy different things... 
 
Most watched though doesn't always mean most popular, there are sports that more people watch but never go to the games, in terms of watched Baseball and Football are up there for sure, but I also know yearly they sell ridiculous amount in tickets...
  

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@Lunacyde said:
" @Supreme Marvel said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" @Chocolate Lantern:  As far as the reason to why Soccer is less popular in America, it's because Football, Baseball, and Basketball have all been being played for around a century. They are just ingrained in American culture. Soccer (football) came around in America a lot later and has seriously been growing in popularity. Baseball, basketball and American football have been around since the days when America was taking an isolationist approach. Now that America is globally reaching out Soccer is becoming slowly very popular. However the  American culture still revolves around the big 3. "
I understand what you mean. Like football as been here for centuries. And apparently, to my knowledge, an Englishman was fed up with using his feet probably weren't any good, so he picked the ball up and not long form that rugby was made. That got popular in American and then American Football was made. This was like late 18 hundreds. "
Right. Basically Football and Baseball are like I said ingrained into American culture. Growing up our heroes are football or baseball or basketball players. We see ourselves as Bart Starr, or Roger Staubach, or Dan Marino in our back yards. We play stickball in the yard with our friends and pretend we are Joe DiMaggio or Ken Griffey Jr.  My Dad gave me a football as soon as I could walk, I got a baseball glove when I was six. We used to play catch for hours, just me and my Dad. It's a father son bonding thing. Fathers hope their sons will grow up to be football or baseball or basketball stars....at least thats my take. "
Same with Football here. Depending on which region you're from. Because there are thousands of football teams in the UK. Most of that is made up from England. Like when we were young, in Liverpool. We would be, I'm Kenny Daglish, I'm Kevin Keegan, I'm Ian Rush. The first time I played football, I was 14 months. Or parents carry their kids and move them to kick the ball if they are to young to stand.
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@MKF30 said:
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Yeah, no dude lol I wasn't talking about the players you listed(I'm sure they're are legends) of soccer but your other list about top sports..  
 
In terms of most watched? That varies, the Yankees for one are VERY watched and have a national audience around US, and even Canada, Worldwide, Japan you'd be surprised how many people outside the US love the Yankees..."

The list was from a world wide survey in a newspaper article. The most watched sports or some title like that. Can't remember where I read it. But I remember the list being that.
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying but often articles(will be biased) if I read one for example, over here it would probably say NFL is the top then Baseball and everything else(which I know isn't true worldwide) and Baseball trust me(as an american) is farrr more played overall in US and worldwide then Basketball is...Basketball has grown much from years ago but Baseball has grown even further, as it's played in Asia now, some parts of Europe(not many but a few) and of course this side of the world it's very popular. 
   
Survey's also often are limited to certain areas I've noticed, like the ones they put out there sometimes about highest paid sport....some I've read stated Basketball and Football(american) but that was wrong, believe it or not Baseball pays far more then any other sport(they make ridiculous money...lol) as in millions upon millions each year...it's pretty nuts

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@MKF30 said:
" Yeah, I hear what you're saying but often articles(will be biased) if I read one for example, over here it would probably say NFL is the top then Baseball and everything else(which I know isn't true worldwide) and Baseball trust me(as an american) is farrr more played overall in US and worldwide then Basketball is...Basketball has grown much from years ago but Baseball has grown even further, as it's played in Asia now, some parts of Europe(not many but a few) and of course this side of the world it's very popular.    Survey's also often are limited to certain areas I've noticed, like the ones they put out there sometimes about highest paid sport....some I've read stated Basketball and Football(american) but that was wrong, believe it or not Baseball pays far more then any other sport(they make ridiculous money...lol) as in millions upon millions each year...it's pretty nuts "
Basket Ball is played in Europe. I've never seen Baseball player in Europe. It might beat it in America. But on a global scale Basket Ball is more played than Baseball. Basketball is also played in Asia. 
As for the survey it could be biased.
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Yeah I know Basketball is played in Europe man lol I had even said there's a league(not as big as NBA's) but still, and same for Hockey now too...Baseball is bigger in Asia and a few parts of Europe(not a lot) and the rest of the world...more or less. 
 
Globally I'm telling you Baseball is more played then Basketball, Basketball doesn't even have a world competition where Baseball does every few years...that's proof right there, Basketball isn't that huge in Asia(there's like literally 1 or 2 max asian players in NBA lol) 
 
A lot of surveys in general are usually dependent on the area and can be biased, even ones here...I just prefer to find out for myself.

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@MKF30 said:
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Yeah I know Basketball is played in Europe man lol I had even said there's a league(not as big as NBA's) but still, and same for Hockey now too...Baseball is bigger in Asia and a few parts of Europe(not a lot) and the rest of the world...more or less. 
 
Globally I'm telling you Baseball is more played then Basketball, Basketball doesn't even have a world competition where Baseball does every few years...that's proof right there, Basketball isn't that huge in Asia(there's like literally 1 or 2 max asian players in NBA lol) 
 
A lot of surveys in general are usually dependent on the area and can be biased, even ones here...I just prefer to find out for myself.

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Then you're technically being biased yourself.
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I'm American and i acknowledge  soccer as a serious sport.....I'm just not entertained by it. I'm really not entertained by anything thats not a combat sport nowadays.
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I played Rugby, Hockey, Baseball. I was also on the Wrestling Team. I am now heavy in MMA and Kendo, I hope to be in the loop when Kendo launches into a more pop sport aswell. It is huge in France, and of coarse Japan, but not so big in America yet. I faced a guy from South Africa last week, and scored on him six times in three moves, I was very happy to rep my school. 
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for some odd reason... I have noticed that most people I talk to about this usually give these reason for why they wont accept Soccer as a real american sport... 
1. its a Game for sissy boys 
2. its boring to watch 
3. they wanna call it Football... but it aint like Our Football... so therefore its crap 
 I actually like Soccer / Futbol  but for whatever reason many Americans see the game as something that is Boring and Second Rate in terms of a Sport... 
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@Chocolate Lantern:  Looks like your upset, (LOL) well, Not all of them are criticizing it, so you need to take in considerations.
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I hate how people just make up sh#t about Americans.We invented less than half of the sports that exist and yet we televise all of them..so how the hell won't we accept a sport because it's not American? That's just ignorant. 

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I'm pretty sure Soccer/Football continues to grow in popularity (in the United States). The World Cup is especially popular and Olympic Soccer is always one of the major draws for American T.V. audiences. The 94' FIFA World Cup shattered an attendance record that had been around since the 50's (which was held in the US :D). Now I'm not sure how accurate Wikipedia is on the subject, but according to them it was the single highest attended sporting match in U.S. history. I'd say the majority of Americans have full on embraced Soccer (you cant turn around in the states without another soccer complex going up). The younger generations especially seem to have embraced soccer more so then say, Baseball. Sure there are still pockets of Sunday morning arm chair qaurterbacks who will never accept Soccer but I don't think its fair to cast the whole of the United States under one umbrella. That would be like us (the States) saying that all European Soccer fans are Road Flare hurling racists criminals ;)

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I didn't know Americans didn't accept Soccer. I always have, and used to play it when I was younger. It's as real a sport as basketball is.

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I hear Manchester united are the most popular sports team in the whole wide world.

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America has a soccer league. MLS I have been to a few DC United games and I had a blast. I even went and saw Beckham play when he was on the Galaxy

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@MKF30 said:
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Yeah I know Basketball is played in Europe man lol I had even said there's a league(not as big as NBA's) but still, and same for Hockey now too...Baseball is bigger in Asia and a few parts of Europe(not a lot) and the rest of the world...more or less. 
 
Globally I'm telling you Baseball is more played then Basketball, Basketball doesn't even have a world competition where Baseball does every few years...that's proof right there, Basketball isn't that huge in Asia(there's like literally 1 or 2 max asian players in NBA lol) 
 
A lot of surveys in general are usually dependent on the area and can be biased, even ones here...I just prefer to find out for myself.

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There are actually professional Asian basketball leagues. I lived in South Korea for four years, so I would know. I would agree that baseball is more popular in Asia over basketball, but not in Europe. And yes, there is a World Basketball Championship. It's called the FIBA basketball  championship and This year it is taking place in Turkey. Most NBA players not from the US play for their national team and the US usually fields a US team as well. Below is the link to the website. 

http://www.fiba.com/ 
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@Supreme, not being biased just posting the facts guy ;)  
 
@Wafflefries, oh yeah dude I'm not denying that(I know there's leagues all over) but was just stating it's not as BIG as it is here and in Europe but a lot of sports have grown over the past 10 years worldwide in general now as oppose to years ago where it was just Hockey-canada, Baseball-usa, Basketball-usa, soccer-everywhere for the most part except a few places... I already said though just so I can establish what I meant that baseball isn't the biggest in europe..like a  few places but that's it lol, asia, usa, canada and south america especially though it's 100 x more popular. ;) but yeah I hear what you're saying.
 
But now you see they're all growing vastly all over the place ;) which is good.
 

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He got that excited he had to say it twice.
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lol ^ He does that, lol I can't stop thinking about Happy Feet everytime I see him post :P

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Soccer is the best sport ever

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honestly all sports bore the crap out of me. hell just the concept of watching a match/round/game for an hour is enough to make me blow my brains out. but honestly i would rather watch soccer any day over the other sports people mindlessly drone to

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@Nighthunter said:
" Soccer is the best sport ever "
Who are you sporting in the World Cup?
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@Nighthunter said:
"Soccer is the best sport ever "

I will say, NO.... It is a very good sport, but the best sport... I think not. Rugby is better, so is Hockey, so is Lacrosse. 
 
Best Team Sports. 
1. Rugby. 
2. Hockey. 
3. Lacrosse.
4. Soccer. 
5. Baseball. 
 
Every other Team sport is just Hoo Hummm... IMHO : ) 
 
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A bit off-topic here... I can clearly say that the reason the Philippines is the only not-soccer-crazy country in Asia is because the Americans are not that much into it. It's a bit disappointing that our likes or dislikes are highly-dictated by the US cause we think we're little brown Americans. Still lovely to watch some NBA though. Ever since I moved to Australia the Basketball I watch seem to suck more and more! Well at least Aussies appreciate some real football (though they still prefer rugby). Hehehe!