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@cheesesticks said:
His mutation is to manipulate all forms of energy, as far as I know he is a physical being@lordofallhumans said:
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Vulcan alone could beat Ultron, but team 2 still win because Apocalypse is a huge jobber and a weak link for Team 1 AND Doom certainly as a counter measure for someone like Vulcan who's made of living energy.

When did Vulcan become an energy being? I remember Doom having a counter measure for an energy being once, his name was Onslaught and Doom got stomped. This was Onslaught at his "birth", and Doom's tech was destroyed. Vulcan at his height was more powerful than Onslaught at his creation. Now I'm not saying who wins, I'm just saying.

Vulcan was always made of energy. It's his mutation.

Hi mutation is to manipulate all forms of energy, not be energy.

IF I remember correctly, in War of Kings he became living energy in his fight with BB. If my memory doesn't play tricks on me lol.

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@cheesesticks said:

Vulcan alone could beat Ultron, but team 2 still win because Apocalypse is a huge jobber and a weak link for Team 1 AND Doom certainly as a counter measure for someone like Vulcan who's made of living energy.

When did Vulcan become an energy being? I remember Doom having a counter measure for an energy being once, his name was Onslaught and Doom got stomped. This was Onslaught at his "birth", and Doom's tech was destroyed. Vulcan at his height was more powerful than Onslaught at his creation. Now I'm not saying who wins, I'm just saying.

Vulcan was always made of energy. It's his mutation.

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@the_impersonator: I didnt know he was going to appear? Do we know who will play him ?

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The only way to bring back the glory of the show is : Deathstroke

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@adamtrmm: Dude, I said '' even if it's another reality''. Read my post before saying blablabla non canon like I didn't know. It was just to show that Apocalypse is used as a jobber.

Cyclops was amped sure, but even amped it's far from close to BB. And yes I knew it, I just didn't feel the need to point it out since Cyclops amped is far from BB scream in power level.

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@cheesesticks: They're probably referring to when he faced down the X-Men and Inhumans while simultaneously hooked up to a machine with an infant Cable, and was ridiculously large(compared to how his usual stature/size).

So not standard circumstances.

At all.

Oh yeah, I see wich issue it was. It was X-Factor I think, Endgame arc or Judgment day, I can't remember.

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@cheesesticks: actually, apocalypse has resisted black bolt's voice before, with no damage,and casually overpowered the hulk. So it depends on who's writing him.

When did he resist Black Bolt scream ? Also, if he did, like you said, how do you judge that feat right when Cyclops killed him with an optic blast ?

Also, from another reality, but still just to show how much of a jobber Apocalypse is:

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Is Wolverine a hero ? He kills

Hulk ? He kills

Thor ? Killed a lot

Aquaman ? Killed many

Wonder Woman ? Same thing

etc, so why is Frank considered an Anti-Hero ? Oh yeah, because he doesn't think the system is good enough to punish criminals and HE IS RIGHT.

Lol he's classified as an Anti-Hero/Vigilante take it up w/ Marvel

Because it fits their story and they can put him against other heros like Spider-Man. He's not in the Avengers bandwagon crew so he's an anti-hero by Marvel standard, but he is no more villain than thor or someone like that.