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Women still need more right tho. They clearly are inferior to men in every way... :P

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@sightlessreality: There is absolutely no comics character that goes in a different dimension to phase.

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It was stupid in the start to put a manga character vs a comics character. Everytime you bring an argument on how Magneto could hurt Madara, in the manga it doesn't work that way. Magneto stopped Kitty phasing, but in the manga it's not the same. It's stupid since the comic character cannot possibly have feats again such thing.

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Wow, Marvel is destroying DC lol. Imagine if they didn't have Batman.

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#5  Edited By CheeseSticks

Twerk is stupid. It's a fashion like anything else. If a girl try to turn me on by twerking I might laugh and ask if she's got a friend who doesn't have to twerk to get a guy.

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#6  Edited By CheeseSticks

@etheral_dreams said:

You realize that Madara can do the same thing to Magneto, but better right? He can breakdown matter at the subatomic level. Magneto cannot counter that. And how exactly is Magneto going to KO Madara? Madara is way too durable, and has Gudoudama shields, which Magneto cannot get past.

Also, Madara can regenerate his whole body and rewrite reality to erase damage. Magneto isn't scratching him. In fact, if Madara somehow died, he can do what Obito did and use his powers from the afterlife.

So once again, Magneto has no way of harming Madara.

So let's see how Madara hurt Magneto, in your opinion:

  • Madara can use Kamui to teleport or become intangible, bypassing the shield
  • Madara can manifest Limbo Clones inside the shield
  • Madara can take Magneto's soul
  • Madara can absorb natural energy including Magneto's shield. Weaker characters like Naruto have absorbed the natural energy of the whole planet.
  • Madara blitzes Magneto.

- Kitty and Nightcrawler already tried to do that = failed. You have to understand that electron is in every molecule. If Magneto controls them, even when phasing of teleporting Madara would have to go through electron and Magneto would block him. Just like he did to Nightcrawler teleportation and Shadowcat phasing

- Won't work, see point above

- Won't work because of his shield

- Show me a scan of Madara absorbing magnetic energy. If he didn't, going by feat, he can't

- Blitz won't work. Magneto already react to Thor who is near lightspeed. So Magneto would react to Madara wich you describe as hypersonic. Hypersonic is also the same speed as Northstar, wich Magneto react before

The thing with the electron is that it's in every molecule, like I said previously, so whenever someone move he touch electron and Magneto sense him. Simple as that.

Madara is immortal. If somehow he dies = he lost. Just like Wolverine lost in previous battle, by KO, because he can always come back. It would not be fair otherwise. And keep telling yourself that Storm and a nuclear explosion broke his shield when it didn't. I already explained the Storm scan and the nuclear scan didn't show Magneto having his shield broke.

EDIT: as for the gravity thingy, I didn't even have to post it, @purple_d_dragon: did it for me.

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@kwasid2k said:

So far this whole thread has basically been arguing whether or not Madara could break Magneto's shield while he has a shield of his own?? People are really making Magneto to be some op god tier characters when he has been consistently taken out plenty of times. I feel that's just clinging on to one little thing when there could be far more things to talk about, but idk about Mag n his special shield...

P.S. Madara is basically a self-proclaimed immortal and he wasn't even beaten but was used as a catalyst to summer Kaguya lol.

Marada is a PIS machine, what did you expect ? He's immortal and cannot be killed. If we can prove that Madara can't hurt Magneto by not being able to break his shield, then at least we have a defense for Magneto and then we can check if Madara can counter a KO by Mags.

And you do know that Magneto getting taken out multiple times is because he is a villain and the heros win in comics ? Just like Thanos lost multiple times even if he's stronger than pretty much everyone else. Or like the time Spider-Man beat Firelord.

@etheral_dreams said:

The thing about Marvel is there are never any official retcons until now. Feats from the 80s - present still apply to Magneto, and furthermore, in the 80s, characters were stronger anyways. You clearly didn't have a problem using Classic Magneto when you brought up his blocking an attack from a multiversal character, which you claim is legit despite Magneto being no where near that level. Also, Magneto clearly had his shields up in the second set of scans, it's the energy bubble around him; Storm broke through that shield with ease.

Even if we ignore feats from Classic Marvel, modern Magneto has still had extreme difficulty containing a nuclear weapon even while amped on the Earth's electromagnetic field energy. Once again, how is he going to block an attack that makes this seem like a joke, when Storm's tornadoes and nuclear weapons have been shown enough to push him to his limits? Let's imagine that somehow Magneto's shields are capable of tanking that; Madara would simply blitz him before he can put them up.

Madara can hurt Magneto for sure. Question is, how can Magneto possibly hurt Madara?

The point it, you gotta have in mind the evolution of his shield. For example, if we take the scan of Thor nearly breaking Magneto shield, you have another scan showing Magneto blocking Thor attack AND She Hulk attack at the same time. So how can you possibly think that the old scan from the 70's that you used can still be used when you have something like that 5-10 years later. Magneto is gaining experience with his power, just like blocking the Phoenix Force 5-10 years later than your Thor scan.

Please, tell me how Madara can hurt Magneto if he can't break his shield. It's simple as that. genjustsu would not work since Magneto as shown to resist any TP control via his helmet and his will. Genjustsu does work with the eyes, but it certainly needs to affect the brain too.

Speedblitz ? Didn't you take note of the scan about Magneto's reflexe ? Madara isn't Flash or Superman level of speed, he can react in time since he control the electron in the air. He would sense Madara coming before he gets to him.

Well, Magneto can possibly hurt Madara by desintegrating him, shutting down the electromagnetic field around his brain, therefore stopping any neural activity in Madara's brain. Of course Madara is immortal because of Naruto PIS, but a KO would still give Mags the win.

The desintegration scan was already post in the previous pages. Magneto shut down Basilisk brain in Planet X with little effort, sure he was amped by Kick, but he can still do it with more effort.

Scan for the Thor and She-Hulk feat:

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EDIT: And please, a gravitational singularity against the master of magnetism ? Magneto has affected gravity a lot in the past decades, the rocks forming the new moon would not even get around him in the first place.

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@etheral_dreams:

- I just saw the previous post scan of Thor and I gotta say, REALLY ? lol. You're going to use Magneto from the 70's ?

- This Storm scan ? lol really ? There's nothing showing that she broke Magneto shield. It's just like Colossus punching Magneto, his shield was down. No shield was broken on the scan you post. You know, the magnetic field bubble shield that Magneto normaly use nowadays and not the old Magneto from the 80's that you keep using

Just what I thought, you're talking about feats and when you post them, it's not the right thing.

@thevivas said:

Why do people care whether or not Madara can break through Magento's shields? It's not like Magneto is breaking through Madara's Goudodama shield.

If Madara can't hurt Magneto, then it's a stalemate at best for Madara. Plain and simple.