Would U Buy It #38: "Bloodlines, Vol. 1-3"

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We all have trade paperback (TPB) collections we'd like to see. Here's three of mine:

Proposed Title:Bloodlines, Vol. 1: Outbreak.
Collecting 9 Issues:Lobo Annual #1; Man of Steel Annual #2; Shadow of the Bat Annual #1; Flash Annual #6; New Titans Annual #9; Superman Annual #5; Green Lantern Annual #2; Batman Annual #17; JLI Annual #4.
Covers: (click to enlarge)
Vol 1 TPB Cover: Lobo Annual #1

Characters Introduced During Outbreak:

Layla: Lobo Annual #1

Edge: Man of Steel Annual #2

Joe Public: Shadow of the Bat Annual #1

Argus: Flash Annual #6

Anima: New Titans Annual #9

Myriad: Superman Annual #5

Nightblade: Green Lantern Annual #2

Ballistic: Batman Annual #17

Lionheart: JLI Annual #4


Proposed Title:Bloodlines, Vol. 2: Earthplague.
Collecting 8 Issues:Robin Annual #2; Action Annual #5; Green Arrow Annual #6; Detective Annual #6; JL America Annual #7;Adventures of Superman Annual #5; Hawkman Annual #1; LSH Annual #4.
Covers: (click to enlarge)
Vol 2 TPB Cover: Robin Annual #2

Characters Introduced During Earthplague:

Razorsharp; Channelman; Hackrat: Robin Annual #2

Loose Cannon: Action Annual #5

Hook: Green Arrow Annual #6

Geist: Detective Annual #6

Terrorsmith: JL America Annual #7

Sparx: Adventures of Superman Annual #5

Mongrel: Hawkman Annual #1

Jamm: LSH Annual #4


Proposed Title:Bloodlines, Vol. 3: Deathstorm.
Collecting 8 Issues:Deathstroke Annual #2; Eclipso Annual (1993) #1; Demon Annual #2; LDK Annual #3; Team Titans Annual #1; LEGION Annual #4; Bloodbath (1993) #1, 2.
Covers: (click to enlarge)
Vol 3 TPB Cover: Deathstroke Annual #2

Characters Introduced During Deathstorm:

Gunfire: Deathstroke Annual #2

Prism: Eclipso Annual (1993) #1

Hitman: Demon Annual #2

Samaritan; Cardinal Sin: LDK Annual #3

Chimera: Team Titans Annual #1

Pax: LEGION Annual #4


The Three TPB Collections As A Whole

When Bloodlines was coming out in 1993, it was the neverending annual event - one cruddy new character after another. An obvious exception to that statement is Garth Ennis' Hitman, which enjoyed an awesome sixty issue run after the misfortune of being introduced in this storyline. I think there were other characters that had potential, but they either didn't meet it, or were ignored when this event was done.

Marvel's Bantam - costume by Wu Tang Clan

The thing is, now that all the issues are out, and you can find them in most quarter bins, they're fun to read one after the other. As an aspiring writer, I believe in having a few examples of bad writing on hand, and for me, Bloodlines would be one of those. Trades would just be handier than having twenty-five issues laying around. Also I do think that this is an important historical marker for comics. Bloodlines stands out (along with Marvel's 1993 annuals) as a testament to how the formation of Image in 1992 changed the comics industry. The Big Two asked their creators to come up with new characters for each 1993 annual, and Bloodlines was the steaming pile of lackluster ideas that DC's creators meekly handed over - obviously holding their better ideas for the prospect of creator ownership. (For the worst of Marvel's offerings that year, see Bantam - yeah, named after a chicken). Well, after giving this storyline such a bad report, I hesitate to do this, but this is called "Would U Buy It," so I have to ask...

Would you buy it? Let me know in the comments, and thanks for reading.


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Posted by humanfly26

no thanks! i read Hitman, but that's about as far as I go with these guys :-)

Posted by cbishop

I had all of these annuals as they were released, but I've sold my collection a couple of times, so I don't have all of them anymore.  I think most would probably agree with you about reading Hitman and leaving the rest though.

Posted by Cezar_TheScribe

I would.  I don't have all or many of these comics. 
I want a Bloodlines TPB.  
"thanks for reading." 
You're welcome.     


Posted by Emperor Gonzo Noir

This is one of those series that you can tell DC is now ashamed of, almost every time one of these characters appears anymore, it's just to die

Posted by cbishop
@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
"This is one of those series that you can tell DC is now ashamed of, almost every time one of these characters appears anymore, it's just to die "

I don't think DC should be ashamed so much as the creators involved.  Like I said, it's obvious that with Image being brand new, everyone was holding back their best ideas for creator ownership.  Ennis made Hitman work fantastically, but even that is not all that original.  There was no costume design - just a guy in normal streetwear.  He's got telepathy and x-ray vision - wow, really?  Again, it was a fantastic series, but not a terribly original character.  And that just goes to show that there was potential in the other characters, and it was flushed in a ho-hum disinterest.  If DC should be ashamed about anything, it's that they haven't done anything with the characters since, except kill them off a little at a time.  DC's got a great core of characters, but very rarely does a new character break in for more than a couple of years, before it's canon fodder.  That's a shame.
Posted by Tolliver_Trask

I must admit I did enjoy this story at the time and I do have a bit of a soft-spot for some of these characters.   I thought some of them had potential, like Terrorsmith, Geist & Nightblade.  I also own every issue of the short-lived Gunfire series, as well as each issue of Argus, Loose Cannon & Blood Pack's limited series, respectively.  I wasn't surprised, however, when DC started offing these guys in bulk (ie. Infinite Crisis 7 & Faces Of Evil:  Prometheus), as I was already aware of their unpopularity.  I can't believe I've never heard of this HItman series though, that one surprised the hell out of me.  As for the question, I personally wouldn't buy the TPB because I already own about 19 of these annuals already lol.  Great read btw, thanks!

Edited by cbishop

@Tolliver_Trask: I must admit: I kind of hated Terrorsmith, but I agree that he had potential. I definitely thought that Geist and Nightblade had potential. I thought Geist had great characterization, and Nightblade had cool powers. (Plus, Nightblade appealed to me, because it made me think of something I've always wanted to see: Cloak & Dagger reversed - Cloak with the light powers, and Dagger with the Darkforce "nightknives," instead of "lightknives"). The only other characters I remember being interested in were Samaritan & Cardinal Sin, and the trio introduced in the Robin Annual (Razorsharp and 2 others). Samaritan & Cardinal Sin had potential as a limited series, I think, and the trio in Robin had longterm potential as supporting characters. I was intrigued by Argus' federal agent background, but still have yet to read the series. The rest I still pretty much thought were crud.

Posted by batshrine

I would buy it

Posted by cbishop

@batshrine: Thanks for commenting! I would especially like to see this collection now, in wake of all the new characters they are trying to introduce in the New 52.

Posted by kfhrfdu_89_76k

@humanfly26 said:

no thanks! i read Hitman, but that's about as far as I go with these guys :-)
Posted by kfhrfdu_89_76k

"DC's got a great core of characters, but very rarely does a new character break in for more than a couple of years, before it's canon fodder. That's a shame."

Which is why new characters should be taken to other publishers.

Posted by cbishop

@kfhrfdu_89_76k said:

"DC's got a great core of characters, but very rarely does a new character break in for more than a couple of years, before it's canon fodder. That's a shame."

Which is why new characters should be taken to other publishers.

Maybe. But the truth is: DC and Marvel are the place to break into comics. It's where creators make their name, and where fans learn to clamor for their work. Once their name is known, they can make money on creator-owned works at other companies. Very rarely do they break in well, if they're on their own. In the meantime, a guy's gotta eat, and that means meeting the assignment. For Bloodlines, and for the New 52, the assignment was: "Create a new character," and in both instances, the results were poor. ...And that's likely because these guys are just trying to get by, until they're well known enough to use their better ideas as their own creator-owned project.

Posted by kfhrfdu_89_76k

They could also make graphic novels to get bit of fame. Then they could go to, say, Image (at least I haven`t heard of them doing anything ethically wrong, at least presently), who are popular enough, and use characters fairly. I hope.

Or maybe most/some of them weren`t skilled enough to make great characters. At least at that point.

Posted by cbishop

@kfhrfdu_89_76k: Nah, like I say in the blog, Marvel's annuals the same year were also presenting new characters, and those were just as lackluster. It was definitely a feeble attempt on the part of the creators, who were definitely looking at Image, and holding back their ideas, in favor of possible creator-ownership.

On the part of Marvel & DC, it seems that they thought the allure to Image was the curiosity over new characters. It was certainly some of that, and there were other new universes around at this time too - notably: Malibu, Ultraverse, Milestone and Comics' Greatest World. So the Big Two figured they'd throw new characters out there and draw readers back. What they didn't get was that the creators' hearts had to be in it, and for Bloodlines and Marvel's '93 annuals, they weren't.

Posted by Darkmount1

@cbishop: Ultraverse WAS Malibu.

Posted by cbishop

@Darkmount1 said:

@cbishop: Ultraverse WAS Malibu.

Ultraverse was owned by Malibu, but it was a separate imprint. The same as Legends at Dark Horse, Vertigo at DC, Icon at Marvel, and Top Cow, Shadowline, Skybound, etc. at Image. Ultraverse was its own gig, and Malibu tried to make a cohesive Malibu universe with Ex-Mutants,Dinosaurs For Hire,Protectors,Ferret,Gravestone, and Man of War, in their "Genesis" event (as can be seen in this handy-dandy blog right here).

Posted by Darkmount1

@cbishop: I see, never mind.

Posted by cbishop

@Darkmount1 said:

@cbishop: I see, never mind.