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#1  Edited By carosen938

@Man_of_Miracles said:

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By full power does that mean Morg has the WOL? I think that's a big factor, not sure who'd win in that case

Otherwise

I'd give it to the NG, Takion and Infinity Man are the most powerful. Takion or Infinity Man would dispatch Stardust very easily since she's made out of energy and they can control her. Either of them would beat Surfer 1 v 1. Orion and Morg should be a pretty brutal fight.

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The problem I see for the New Gods is that

Big Barda, Mantis, Miracle Man, and Kalibak are essentially worthless in this fight.

Terrax, Firelord, and Alpha Ray are pretty worthless also. In fact even Stardust is worthless because she's made of pure energy and at least 3 of the New Gods can control energy, Mantis can easily contain and dispatch of her

So it's essentially Morg and Surfer vs Orion Takion and Infinity Man. Either Tak or IM can beat Surfer one v one. Orion vs Morg should take a while but Morg would get double teamed and curbstomped

Although all of this is dependant on weather Morg has the WOL or not.

If Stardust was pure energy Beta Ray would have been able to control her with Stormbreaker in their fight.

I believe she is partially intangible because of her alien physiology, not actually made of energy.

In addition Stardust is a very high energy manipulator as well, so she could possibly counteract their energy manipulation anyway.

EDIT: I mean isn't this a bit like saying since Takion is energy SS could manipulate him because SS manipulates energy?

Also Firelord is severely underestimated.

Weak argument. Beta Ray Bill never tried to control her. If he actually tried and failed then that would be a valid point. If she's made of energy then she can be manipulated, really that simple. Stardust has never shown the ability to control her own body either, in fact she's never shown any real significant energy manipulating powers either.

Takion isn't made out of pure energy, if he was then Flash wouldn't have been able to hit him

Firelord isn't being underestimated, he just sucks

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#2  Edited By carosen938

By full power does that mean Morg has the WOL? I think that's a big factor, not sure who'd win in that case

Otherwise

I'd give it to the NG, Takion and Infinity Man are the most powerful. Takion or Infinity Man would dispatch Stardust very easily since she's made out of energy and they can control her. Either of them would beat Surfer 1 v 1. Orion and Morg should be a pretty brutal fight.

@Man_of_Miracles said:

The problem I see for the New Gods is that

Big Barda, Mantis, Miracle Man, and Kalibak are essentially worthless in this fight.

Terrax, Firelord, and Alpha Ray are pretty worthless also. In fact even Stardust is worthless because she's made of pure energy and at least 3 of the New Gods can control energy, Mantis can easily contain and dispatch of her

So it's essentially Morg and Surfer vs Orion Takion and Infinity Man. Either Tak or IM can beat Surfer one v one. Orion vs Morg should take a while but Morg would get double teamed and curbstomped

Although all of this is dependant on weather Morg has the WOL or not.

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#3  Edited By carosen938

@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

@IZZR said:

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@IZZR: Just making sure. I don't want any dumb Deathstroke fanboys coming in and saying he solos.

I know exactly what you mean especially when they have very limited knowledge of the opponents.

It's really annoying. Even more when they bring up PIS, Bad ABC logic, and discredit the other character with low-end feats and/or out of context scans.

They use really cheap tactics and arguments just to win the vote i dont know if its just me but when fanboys do that it makes me less interested in the character.

Yeah I know.

A shame that happened to The Hulk. Now everybody hates him and he gets put in mismatch battles and gets downplayed.

Same with Superman. Overrated.

Subjective..if you want to bring up the most overrated character in comics look no further than a short, hairy Canadian with an immortality factor and claws/

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#4  Edited By carosen938

Kryptonian intelligence is leagues above human intelligence, Reed included.

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#5  Edited By carosen938

Take the top ten Lanterns and they win. Hal Kyle and John could beat Surfer via 3 on 1. Most of the other Heralds are useless, Terrax Firelord and Airwalker are useless

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@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:

Before anyone says :

"LOLZ DEATHSTROKE SOLOS TEH NOOBZ NINJAZ!!!1"

Here are some feats :

I can't even tell whats going on in most of these scans and I'm pretty sure the Transformers one isn't canon

Still from what I understand some versions of Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes were able to bisect tanks so I wouldn't say Slade solos, I'd probably say the GI Joe team wins due to Deadpool being the weak link