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My HATE for Superman

I can't believe that I actually hated Superman. That is, until I read War of the Supermen and continued with Superman #700. So then I decided to pick up a few trades. I have a pretty big comic book collection and I also buy a lot of trades. I've always thought of Superman as "the big blue boy scout" and as this super strong guy that because he was so powerful, I thought that he was boring. I;m happy to say that my feelings have changed. Actually, my favorite of my trades that I own are both Superman stories, All Star Superman and Red Son. Now, I know that they aren't in continuity, but they are just so good. Red Son is definitely my favorite work from Millar. I have grown to really love this character. And I also love what JMS is currently doing with the Superman book. Very interesting. Can't wait for more, and hopefully we'll get to see Paul Cornell write Superman in Action Comics.

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I'm aware of how clickbait this sounds: "I hate Superman", says comic book nerd.

In all honesty, though, welcome to the Superman fanclub!

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Invicible is ok...but Supes is the man! 
 
@Sharliecash, Sentry IS a Superman biteoff...wears an S, has similar uniform/costume, powers and is just Blond...even most DC and Marvel creators admit Sentry was inspired GREATLY by Superman...

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@-Eclipse-: ...damn it! XD
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i've read a few superman comics or ones he's in and for me ironically he's been the most boring character in the majority of them because he's over powered powered and too perfect. while i know people will flamebait this, i prefer characters like spiderman, because he is not more powerful than most of his enemies and not always stronger. i also like how he's not perfect, he succeeds at his super human life at the cost of those he care's about, he always has self doubt and fear of letting people down if he doesn't do anything that he hides behind a mask of jokes and quips, that's only a brief summary 
 
also people think the sentry is a superman knockoff,  if anything he's a scarlet witch knockoff or at least proves a cycle that some one will appear with limitless power they will lose control and then destroy 
 
ps. i don't like how he is disguised by his glasses 

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@Primmaster64: It would if Mark had kryptonite! HA! :D
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@-Eclipse-: That would never happend. =)
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@thegreatfour: Just spreading the good word of Invincible around the Vine :D 
  
 GET IM, BOYS!
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@-Eclipse-: It's your happy face!
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Superman? BAH!

 What can I say? He's past his prime :P
 What can I say? He's past his prime :P
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Yeah but just saying no Marvel fan should ever bitch about Superman since one, the name implies "power" hence why they call him "SUPER-Man.." and Galactus is powerful but there are also tons of other characters in both DC and Marvel far more powerful then Galactus...even some versions of Superman(the more ridiculous versions)  Hell I'm sure between SA Supes, Golden Supes, Spectre and the 5th dim imps can take out everyone else in DC and Marvel minus Presence and TOAA... 
 
Superman though his story is unique and far different then any mythological god, I'm sure his "strength" was somewhat inspired by some Gods but aside from that, he's in a league of his own and unique.
 

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@MKF30
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I love how these superman haters call him overpowered and such yet love Marvel characters like SS or Galactus...the hypocricy there is amusing yet sad at the same time... 
 
I can't see how any "true" comicbook fan can HATE Superman....even if you don't like him, at least respect him if not for Supes you wouldn't have your favorite comicbook characters since he inspired all of them...

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Galactus is an abstract, hes supposed to be over-powered.  Norrin certainly is, but again he's that abstracts herald supposedly built to defend himself from entire world's military is need be. 
DC certainly doesn't have those on short supply regardless, you've got an entire 5th dimension of imps that can make the DCU go into chaos. 
 
There are a lot of characters out there with absolutely nothing involving inspiration from Superman.  
Like characters that get their inspiration directly from myth, which one can argue is where Superman was inspired, the hero that man kind has been talking about for over 4000 thousand years. 
 
I'm not saying Superman shouldn't be respected, because he's an iconic character that is the image people think of when they thing "Super Hero", not that he hasn't been the direct inspiration for a lot of characters, but to say all of them seems plain incorrect.
 
@Lvenger said:

"He is the best in my opinion. To each their own I suppose but if it wasn't for Superman, none of the other darker and more 'realistic' heroes would have come into existence. He was the original, the first official superhero.  If it wasn't for him, the comic book universe we know today would be different or may not exist at all "

 
Hugo Hercules 1902.  Then you have Hugo Danner  1933(?). 
Hell if you go into ancient myth your going to find a lot of characters that are arguably super heroes.  
Like everyone's favorite guy with the strength of 10 men, whose ten labors are a story told many a time, and who at one point even holds the sky, Hercules!  

 
 

Now I won't claim he's one of the first, but he's certainly one of the first at the very least that took the role of a super hero demigod that killed monsters that plagued man and went to the under world itself to save the day. 
His legends have lived for thousands of years, so he's beating Superman in age at the very least. 
 
I think comics would still end up being around, people have been drawing pictures since the time we lived in caves, eventually someone would have capatilzed on the icon of the Super Hero. 
But I do agree the comic book world could have been an entirely different thing all together.
   
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He is the best in my opinion. To each their own I suppose but if it wasn't for Superman, none of the other darker and more 'realistic' heroes would have come into existence. He was the original, the first official superhero. If it wasn't for him, the comic book universe we know today would be different or may not exist at all

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He's the man!

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I love how these superman haters call him overpowered and such yet love Marvel characters like SS or Galactus...the hypocricy there is amusing yet sad at the same time... 
 
I can't see how any "true" comicbook fan can HATE Superman....even if you don't like him, at least respect him if not for Supes you wouldn't have your favorite comicbook characters since he inspired all of them...

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@Butchdog said:
"i love how so many of the people that call superman overpowered are some of the same that love goku. when i think overpowered his the first one that pops into my head yet you never hear them say anything bad about him "
  
....Ok.
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i love how so many of the people that call superman overpowered are some of the same that love goku. when i think overpowered his the first one that pops into my head yet you never hear them say anything bad about him

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@fallenangel5991 said:
"Why would anyone hate Superman? "
 
Why would anyone hate any fictional character? I can understand not caring for one but to actually hate a character..... 
 
I'm not going to argue whether or not Superman is over-powered (Don't know why anyone would... he is Superman after all... he's suppose to be powerful) but me personally I don't care for many characters who are very powerful at all. I tend to like more "street-level" characters.
 
The main reason I'm not a fan of Superman though is simply that I find his look unappealing. It's like getting with a girl or guy... you have to atleast be somewhat attracted to them before even attempting a relationship.
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@carnivalofsins00: :)
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@Primmaster64: i can understand now, but if it was me before theres no way i could take someone saying that. lol.
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Well for me Supes totally owns bats...lol but to each's own

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Superman/Brainiac is awesome. 

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@carnivalofsins00:
Exactly.
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@batman_is_god: i think Batman will forever own Superman, and as a matter of fact, just about anyone, but Superman has grown on me obviously. lol.
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@carnivalofsins00:
I used to hate him, and while he is still not my absolute favorite, I have come to see he's a good character.
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@carnivalofsins00: Did you read earth one dude?
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@ValendianKnight:  lol. did you read All Star Superman? I think its something everyone should read. I LOVED IT!
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And here I was not wanting to open this topic thinking it would be just another one of those Superman hate threads. I actually have a very similar story to yours. I used to hate Superman for no reason in particular, but as of recent, I've been reading a lot more of his stories, and what an awesome character! He's so much more than just his powers, wish more people could see that.

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@ssejllenrad said:
" @ssejllenrad said:
" All you superman fanboys rejoice for moments like this are rare. Soon people will know how pathetic your blue idol really is. SUPERMAN SUCKS! "
Goddamnit James stop using my pc and account to bash on Supes! I'll f**ck*n break your neck for your blasphemy! "
lol
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Why would anyone hate Superman? If your falling off the building, its Superman who's gonna save you!!!! Not Wolverine, not Hulk, but SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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@ssejllenrad said:
" All you superman fanboys rejoice for moments like this are rare. Soon people will know how pathetic your blue idol really is. SUPERMAN SUCKS! "
Goddamnit James stop using my pc and account to bash on Supes! I'll f**ck*n break your neck for your blasphemy!
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All you superman fanboys rejoice for moments like this are rare. Soon people will know how pathetic your blue idol really is. SUPERMAN SUCKS!

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@Reactor said:
"Glad to see another person actually read a Superman comic and see he can be written awesomely. I don't know why everyone seems to hate on Supes while walking cheat codes (coughwolverinecough) and super-godly characters (coughphoenixcough) are glorified. It's like people hate on Supes because it's popular to hate on Supes. Alongside Green Lantern, Flash, Batman and (before that man who shall not be named) Spider-Man, Superman comics are some of my favorite reads."

well put, Superman is my favorite for the amazing writing and the ideas that are tied up in that character- such a rich mythos
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@AMS said:
" Got to admit always loved Supes but not to hot on grounded but I will give it time. "
lol =)
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Got to admit always loved Supes but not to hot on grounded but I will give it time.
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@Reactor: =)
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Glad to see another person actually read a Superman comic and see he can be written awesomely. I don't know why everyone seems to hate on Supes while walking cheat codes (coughwolverinecough) and super-godly characters (coughphoenixcough) are glorified. It's like people hate on Supes because it's popular to hate on Supes. Alongside Green Lantern, Flash, Batman and (before that man who shall not be named) Spider-Man, Superman comics are some of my favorite reads.

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Brainiac Storyline to New Krypton to War of the Supermen is awesome as hell. Grounded is boring though. Check out  Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? its awesome

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@batman_is_god: i know what you mean. i mean, batman has been and always will be the best in my opinion. =]
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I think more people need to realize that being a "boy scout" is not a bad thing for a hero to be. 
 
Yes, BATMAN is my favorite so I know it sounds hypocritical. The dark hero is nice and all, but WAY too many heroes are jumping on the BATMAN band wagon and not enough are jumping on the Superman band wagon.
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Every now and then you see a single panel of art in a comic book that is something awesome, for me it's a superman piece, its Kingdom Come, I think that's the one, where a very pissed off Superman is flying full speed to kick some ass, I loved that.

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lol

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@carnivalofsins00:  No!  No hurray for you.
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@Amegashita: hurray for misleading!
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@carnivalofsins00:  Yeah, I wanted to hear your hate for Superman rant, I click on the topic.  What!  You like Superman! 
 
  You misled me.  =[ I wanted a rant.
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@Amegashita: im pretty sure everyone who actually read this came to read it because they initially would have thought it would be the opposite of what i ended up writing. huh.
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Hate for Superman is misplaced. It's good you like him now. 
 

 
 
 
 
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@carnivalofsins00:  Lol.  No problem... though... your title mislead me.  =[  You're a snake.   Sssssss.  <Sound a snake makes.>
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@Amegashita: lol! Funny
 
@carnivalofsins00:
=) So I guess maybe we will see Supes in you're profile?
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@Amegashita: lol. well im sorry about that. =/
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