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#1 Posted by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheMadMarvel said:

Black history month I'm thankful for T'Challa. And George Washington Carver for inventing peanut butter.

i'm thankful for Monica Rambeau, and Patricia Bath for successfully restoring eye sight to several blind people by way of the laser probe that she invented. 
#2 Posted by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wise Son said:

No it is not. Age and Time are too different concepts. You're talking time not age. Who's to say Parker didn't use Pym's research. Don't blame the ignorance of writers on the characters. You act as if there hasn't been instances in comics where information and concepts were misconstrued. Case and point, the value of IQ test. I know, I only said he was Scientist Supreme because you mention these "accolades" that Peter has. Doesn't get much bigger than Eternity tell you you're the man. I don't think anyone is arguing that Pym is smarter than Reed. No one is. Tony is debatable. Heroes are modest and do that "Ohh no, you're better than me" bull all the time. How does the Spider-Tracer rival an artificially designed alternate dimension that houses disembodied consciousnesses and simulates the perfect existence for them?

Age and time are two different concepts but Spider-Man created that tracer when he was a kid. Like everyone else in the Marvel Universe his intellect would have grown over time. He did in his adolescence what Pym struggled to do as an adult when he's had more time to do the research and more time to expand his knowledge.The idea that Parker used Pym's research is reaching at it's finest. If that was the case don't you think it would have been mentioned somewhere? Most importantly during a conversation they were having about it? Nobody said anything about the Spider-Tracer rivaling an alternate dimension. It does however rival that helmet that Pym spent years on..you know because they have a similar application...
#3 Posted by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@XMASCATEXE said:

@Captain Danvers said:

@Wise Son said:

T'Challa made an inertia robbing forcefield out of common household items in his current series. Much more complex than web shooters. Again, got any more feats?

Also Parker took an I.Q. test and his scores were equal to that of Reed Richards when Reed Richards was that age.

Not sure why I'm dropping it but the sake of contention I guess using Reed as a measuring stick is bad form, for one being as smart as Reed at an age doesn't make one as smart as he is now.

More though Reed is promoted as " the genius " much as the way Einstein was ins reality, therefore the assumption that no one is his equal. Likewise using him as a point in another characters defense against Pym is bad as Pym beat Reed in a battle of wits specifically designed to defeat Pyms intellect.

@Wise Son said:

The man was deemed Scientific Supreme of Earth by Eternity after all.

after Pym changed himself to the degree to find Eternity, meet and be deemed this in person. That moment is a little hard to deny really.

Peter is up there though, I wouldn't stand against that but, see my statement in my Skrull account, as well as that image Morpheus posted of Iron Man. Again, it wasn't a ranked list, nor an actual list of the smartest people on Earth. It was a list of the persons who specifically fit the Intelligencia's agenda in for their plan in World War Hulks, in order of who was to be dealt with when.

Why can't anyone just acknowledge that it's a good showing of Spider-Man's intellect? I wasn't trying to suggest that Spider-Man was equal to Reed. Obviously he would have gotten smarter over the years which is why I mentioned that Parker is younger than most characters that are being suggested as top level geniuses (accept Cho).
#4 Posted by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wise Son said:

@Captain Danvers said:

@Wise Son said:

T'Challa made an inertia robbing forcefield out of common household items in his current series. Much more complex than web shooters. Again, got any more feats?

Peter Parker is alot younger than most on the list, accept Cho but his accolades from that of other great minds makes it evident that he's probably smarter than T'Challa. For starters he created web tracers when he was a teenager. When Hank Pym first analyzed them he was amazed that Spider-Man could create a device that locks into the frequency of his own Spider-Sense when it took him years to do something similar with his helmet with a much more mature intellect. Spider-Man produced in minutes what took years for Pym.Also Parker took an I.Q. test and his scores were equal to that of Reed Richards when Reed Richards was that age.

Age is irrelevant in this discussion. If someone is smarter than you in your respective field so be it. I have a hard time believing Parker is light years ahead of Pym. The man was deemed Scientific Supreme of Earth by Eternity after all. He manipulates Pym Particles to displace his mass, created a helmet capable of interspecies communication, used stem cell implantation to cause the growth of wings, developed the Infinite Avenger's mansion and built Ultron. THE MAN MADE HEAVEN FOR CHRIST SAKES! Pym gets the shaft from writers fairly often. I feel IQ test are skewed and not a reliable indicator of one's intelligence. Many of the great minds of the world don't put much value in it. Someone once said if an Aborigine drafted the IQ test the West would effectively fail.

Parker isn't on Pym's level. I doubt he's smarter than T'Challa either.

Age is relevant to my examples.What took Pym years to do was a weekend project for Parker.That Helmet is one of Pym's prized creations. Parker had already created a similar effect and in less than half the time.As far as the IQ test that he and Reed took it's a fictional test in comic books that was used to show how smart Parker was if "great minds" didn't put any value in it (from a comic writing standpoint) it wouldn't have been mentioned.Pym is the scientist supreme for the way he uses science not because he's smarter than all other "scientists", Eternity even agreed with him that Reed was smarter than him and Pym himself suggested that Iron Man was smarter than him and Eternity explained why he chose Pym over him and it's not because he's smarter.To clarify I wasn't bring up the feat with the Spider-Tracer to suggest that Parker is smarter than Pym (although he says it out of his own mouth) but to show that he can create things that rival the creations of other Intellects in the Marvel Universe.
#5 Edited by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wise Son said:

T'Challa made an inertia robbing forcefield out of common household items in his current series. Much more complex than web shooters. Again, got any more feats?

Peter Parker is alot younger than most on the list, accept Cho but his accolades from that of other great minds makes it evident that he's probably smarter than T'Challa. For starters he created web tracers when he was a teenager. When Hank Pym first analyzed them he was amazed that Spider-Man could create a device that locks into the frequency of his own Spider-Sense when it took him years to do something similar with his helmet with a much more mature intellect. Spider-Man produced in minutes what took years for Pym.Also Parker took an I.Q. test and his scores were equal to that of Reed Richards when Reed Richards was that age.
#6 Posted by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wise Son said:

Wow, because no one else on this list could do that. Any more feats?

We're not talking about everyone else on this list..we're talking about T'Challa.....That's Parker's lightwork.
#7 Posted by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wise Son said:

I disagree. What has Parker done? I have been out of the ol' Webhead's loop for a while.I'm talking early 2000s.

For starters he created those web-shooters he uses every day.
#8 Posted by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@pooty said:

@Captain Danvers: I said her entire series was PIS. I then stated that She-Hulk beat him fair and square.

Which is contradictory but Ok. 
 
@pooty said:

 How do you know Champion was Class 100? His strength is dependent on his training. No training. No strength. 

Where is this stated? 
 
@pooty said:

 When Hulk starts beating skilled opponents come back around. Don't hurry tho.

The Hulk fights characters in his strength class. Most class 100's AREN'T skilled but the Champion has never in his entire career beaten anyone Hulk level and had his ribs broken by class 85 Thing. Stop reaching for an argument ,You don't have one.
#9 Posted by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@pooty said:

@Captain Danvers: Champion beat Colossus, Thing and Sasquatch. Those are 3 people in She-Hulks strength range. Who has She-Hulk beat? ANd don't say Champion because he was at his worst. It's even stated in those crappy She-Hulk books you read.

Champion is powered by the Primodal power which he can use to augment his strength, stamina to limitless levels. So he is not lacking in that department. I'm can tell you didn't read anything with Classic Champion in it. Nor did you read when he was recently in "Deadpool Corps". His skill is still leaps ahead of any Hulk has shown. Hulk has no skill feats

If the Champion was at his worse why to you insist it was PIS? Who cares if he was at his worse..he was still class 100. I also love how you left out the fact that when The Champion fought those characters you named they were all weaker than She-Hulk is now.  
 
The Champion doesn't have any credible fighting skill feats nor is he strong enough to go hand to hand with the Hulk.I'll say this again..let me know when the Champion beats someone Hulk level. Class 70 Colossus, Class 85 Thing and Sasquatch aren't on that level. Not to mention the Thing broke his ribs in their fight.But somehow he's supposed to not only be able to physically handle the Hulk but his skill matters? GTFOH...
#10 Edited by Captain Danvers (149 posts) - - Show Bio
@pooty said:

 @Captain Danvers: This is Hulk not she-hulk battle. Hulk has never shown the skill She-Hulk has. So her fight with Champion is actually irrelavant.

The Champion doesn't have any skill feats so your post is irrelevant.I love how you're overlooking how much stronger Hulk is than the Champion too. That's awesome.