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#1 Posted by Captain13 (3017 posts) - - Show Bio

Teenage Mutant Hobo Turtles :D

You make good points, Katzman, especially since many of these additions are hinderances. While I understand the desire to reflect the personalities of the turtles through their clothes, there was no need for that here. The turtles have been well known since the 1980s, and kids are still familiar with them today. We already know what their personalities are. Maybe the movie will provide a plausible excuse for the additions though. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

#2 Edited by Captain13 (3017 posts) - - Show Bio

The person I voted for is in the lead, as he should be.

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#4 Posted by Captain13 (3017 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd prefer Dick Grayson, Tim Drake, Duke Thompson, or Carrie Kelly as Robin. -_-

#5 Posted by Captain13 (3017 posts) - - Show Bio

Johns can't write well anymore.

#6 Posted by Captain13 (3017 posts) - - Show Bio

@captain13 said:

I have no problem with good changes (Red Lanterns, Sinestro Corps, Talons, The Machine), but this seems to be a bad change because it strays too far from the core setting of the character. When Marvel did this to 616 Spider-man by replacing him with Doc Ock, I missed out on 2 years of real Spider-man stories. There are consequences for readers like me when Marvel or DC does this.

Also, this change is more bothersome because DC really doesn't know how to use their legacy characters in a way I find compelling. Once there was a time when young heroes struggled with the weight of history and finding a place in the tapestry of heroism. That's all gone. And Dick Grayson, in particular, is a weaker character because of it. What happened to the leader of the next generation? What happened to his identity? What happened to his friends and family? What happened to his history? They just keep taking stuff away from this character and adding nothing to make up for what was taken.

Why can't he lead a team of Titans? Why can't he team up with a Wally and Donna, even if they are new versions? Why can't he just be Nightwing? Ugh. And this happens just when Wally is returning, so you know they aren't going to properly fix the mess that is Teen Titans.

You realise that all this crap you are moaning about will happen? I mean it's a forgone conclusion. It's happened before and it's obviously going to happen again because people like you force comic companies to tell the same god damn stories over and over. So why not, just for a little while, let them tell new stories in new situations? Would that be so god damn hard to ask?

This change isn't consistent with the mythology of the character, but let's have change for the sake of change. Next month, let's make Superman a golfer just because it hasn't been done before.

#7 Posted by Captain13 (3017 posts) - - Show Bio

GRAYSON #2

Written by TIM SEELEY and TOM KING

Art by MIKEL JANIN

Cover by MIKEL JANIN

1:50 Variant cover by ROB LIEFELD

On sale AUGUST 13 • 32 pg, FC, $3.99 US • RATED T+

Retailers: This issue will ship with two covers. Please see the order form for details.

We've taken his friends. We've taken his family. We've taken his identity. We've taken his history. This month, what is "Dick Grayson?" The answer will change the DC Universe Forever and leave you thinking, "WTF Certified."

#8 Edited by Captain13 (3017 posts) - - Show Bio

I have no problem with good changes (Red Lanterns, Sinestro Corps, Talons, The Machine), but this seems to be a bad change because it strays too far from the core setting of the character. When Marvel did this to 616 Spider-man by replacing him with Doc Ock, I missed out on 2 years of real Spider-man stories. There are consequences for readers like me when Marvel or DC does this.

Also, this change is more bothersome because DC really doesn't know how to use their legacy characters in a way I find compelling. Once there was a time when young heroes struggled with the weight of history and finding a place in the tapestry of heroism. That's all gone. And Dick Grayson, in particular, is a weaker character because of it. What happened to the leader of the next generation? What happened to his identity? What happened to his friends and family? What happened to his history? They just keep taking stuff away from this character and adding nothing to make up for what was taken.

Why can't he lead a team of Titans? Why can't he team up with a Wally and Donna, even if they are new versions? Why can't he just be Nightwing? Ugh. And this happens just when Wally is returning, so you know they aren't going to properly fix the mess that is Teen Titans.

#9 Edited by Captain13 (3017 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't read a 616 Spider-man story since Otto took over. It will be good to read Peter Parker Spider-Man stories again, though Miles has been awesome.

#10 Posted by Captain13 (3017 posts) - - Show Bio

@captain13 said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

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@jonny_anonymous said:

@captain13 said:

Dick, Donna, and Wally are supposed to be the ciphers of the superhero community. Now there is no "community." And all of these characters are hurt because of it. Now, on top of all that, DC breaks down more of Dick's relationships by taking away all of his Bat-history.

Why didn't they just use Rick Flagg, Steve Trevor, Sergeant Rock, or Nemesis for this?

Because this isn't "what character can we use to tell this story" it's "this is an interesting story for Dick Grayson"

Except it's not. DC just took away another important part of Dick's identity for the next 2 years. ~24 months of no Dick Grayson Nightwing stories. Lovely.

How much more can DC divorce Dick from his old version.

DC: "We've taken his friends. We've taken his family. We've taken his identity. Next month, we'll learn that 'Dick Grayson' isn't Dick Grayson."

So what would you rather have everything go back to normal so they can retell the same stories all over again?

If you don't like Nightwing stories, don't read them. There are other characters out there. Why take everything meaningful about a character besides the name? Plenty of people enjoyed that character as is.

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You know what? You're right. There have been 75 years of Superman stories. That's stale. Let's change the title to "Kent," remove his supporting cast, and have him work as a powerless cop in Detroit.

Oooh, even better: you're tired of James Bond right? Let's make him a female and call him 008 instead. Oh, and he's not a spy anymore. He's a short order cook in china town looking for his long lost father.

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What's the point of reading about this character when there are no Nightwing stories? If you want other stories, read other characters.

Jeebus. Another character lost for 24 months.

24 months, exactly. New takes on characters never last and it always goes back to the same old stuff because fanboys don't actually want characters to evolve naturally so why are you crying about it? Characters sometimes change and sometimes for the better like when John Stewart took over from Hal.

1. 1-2 years is a VERY long time

2. When John took over from Hal, those were still GL stories. These are not Nightwing stories. They effectively cancelled Nightwing, when it had good sales. That's wrong.