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#1  Edited By capelesscrusader

@TheStegman: A police officer cannot, under current law, demand that you enter his/her custody without a warrant. You are welcome to do so voluntarily, but absent a charge, you cannot be held against your will. Utopia is NOT US territory. If you do not believe me, please feel free to consult Marvel's WIKI http://marvel.wikia.com/Utopia_(X-Men_Base) I quote: Seeing no other option, Cyclops decided to move the mutant population (then stationed in the Marin Headlands at Graymalkin Industries) to this island, and off U.S. soil to avoid further persecution by the government, and Norman Osborn and his H.A.M.M.E.R. in particular. I'm not claiming Cyclops' actions are completely right, but he is essentially leading a sovereign island nation-state and Captain America was there illegally.

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#2  Edited By capelesscrusader

How Steve Rogers is Wrong:

1) Demanded the handover of a girl without any charges being leveled. In other words: no cause or due process

2) Came onto sovereign territory with an armed party. Trespassing without a warrant

Had he truly wanted to avoid conflict, he would have first sought to approach Cyclops as an individual, one leader to another, and not with an army of Avengers at his back. He would also have secured the blessings of the UN, which would have negated the legal issues associated with trespassing on Utopia.

Cap displays an attitude of "we go where we want, when we want, and do what we want. Do what we say, get out of the way, or face the consequences."

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#3  Edited By capelesscrusader

@Hunter114: I happen to agree whole-heartedly. This is one reason why I would love to see writing TEAMS tackle any possible book that would overtly deal with political content. That would afford them the opportunity to present both sides of the debate in the context of the characters they are working on.

Perhaps books featuring solo characters wouldn't be the best avenue, while team books might.

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#4  Edited By capelesscrusader

@Superguy0009e: For all the comics that portray religion in a negative light, there are also quite a few instances of it being central to a character's strength. Firebird, in the old West Coast Avengers, derived her power directly from the Holy Spirit. Ghost Rider literally fights demons and the devil. In the follow-on material to Kingdom Come, Superman deliberately attempts to shut down the religious references to himself, and the main character in the primary book was a preacher.

It sounds like you're proving the point of Peter David, which is that the content may not be lacking, but all you see is the negative side, as the material which agrees with your viewpoint simply flies under the radar as "right"

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#5  Edited By capelesscrusader

I will agree that it is not an easy thing to do well, but I think that there are writers out there who could handle it. If not, perhaps the major publishers should be looking for writers who can. Sean Hannity writing Frank Castle? Bill O'Reilly writing J.J. Jameson features? How about Luke Cage written by Barack once he's left office?

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#6  Edited By capelesscrusader

, for all that many long-time fans seem to dislike the New 52, the fact that it has been a financial success for DC cannot be argued. The books have consistently shown a stronger presence at or near the top of the sales charts, and several are more than a little good.

I suppose that we who grew up in the Post-Crisis world should take a moment and remember that there were a lot of fans of Pre-Crisis stories who looked upon 1986-2011 as negatively as you do about the New 52.

The 25-year reboot seems to be becoming a DC tradition, which is honestly not a bad thing. It allows for a housecleaning and frees up writers to tell good stories without having to worry about whining fanboys screaming that the main characters' actions are inconsistent with panel 5 of issue #127 from fifteen years before.

In short, if you don't like it, don't read it. All of the stories from before the New 52 are still there for you to read, and I'm sure that the publisher would be more than happy to sell you the various collected editions for your bookshelf.

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#7  Edited By capelesscrusader

You forgot D.B. Cooper #2. Craziest book on the shelves tomorrow.

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#8  Edited By capelesscrusader

@Adnan: I think that one of the large reasons that so many fans are climbing onboard the project is that Watchmen was that rare project from mainstream companies that had the courage to delve into socio-political waters. While recent trends suggest that independent publishers are capitalizing on this demographic, there has been a general dearth of offerings like this from either of the "Big 2". If you really want to appreciate Watchmen, I'd suggest looking at it as a deconstruction of the genre. Moore's original work plays with all of the primary archetypes of superhero-dom and turns them completely on their heads. Even the final twist, with the use of the giant telepathic squid, is a shot at the deus-ex-machine endings that permeated comics throughout the 50s, 60s, and 70s. The movie did much the same things for the superhero film genre, which is why Nite Owl's costume looks like a ripoff of the Joel Schumacher bat-nipple suits, and eschewed the squid for a climactic device that was more in tune with the movies of the 90s and early 00s. Thanks for reading! - CC

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#9  Edited By capelesscrusader

I think that with the creative teams attached, from Darwyn Cooke to J. Michael Straczynski and the Kuberts, DC has made every effort to put their very best on this project. They have a vested interest in both the commercial and critical success of this project. The original Watchmen was a watershed for the comic book industry, showing that the form could be taken seriously and genuinely expose real societal problems, as well as problems within the industry itself. As such, my expectations are high. You would be hard-pressed to find a creator working on this project that has a less-than-stellar record of success.

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#10  Edited By capelesscrusader

Thanks for the support, BlackArmor and majestic99 :)