@bumnut: I assumed the OP meant Thanos before his first death at the hands of Adam Warlock, not his second. That would be the weakest incarnation of Thanos, though still strong enough to defeat Thor or Drax, and still leagues more experienced and cunning than Him.
Ah, thank you for clearing that up. Your right, didn't even occur to me, when he said before Thanos's death, I always think nowdays before he got his heart ripped out. With that said, still say Thanos, as he was always more than a team buster, and could more than take on Warlock/Him physically, but as Thanos has stated previously, it's not his physical attributes that are his greatest asset lol
Him? No. I was gonna say the best thing Warlock has over Thanos that no one else really does, and vice versa, is that they understand each other, mentally, physically, emotionally. They understand eachothers beings and place in the universe. Him, Warlock's first incarnation doesn't have that, and your putting him against a more powerfull and ruthless Thanos, if your using Thanos just before Annihilation, imo. The way I read this battle, is that your putting a Warlock in his first incarnation/experience against a much older, more powerful version of Thanos?
Mjolnir, by a long shot. They can everything the bracelets can and then some. Love to see Diana opening up portels into new dimensions and siphoning energy with her bracelets. I'd put them second under Mjlonir, they are powerfull, but not as powerfull as Mjolnir, imo.
Totally agreed and understand where your comming from. There's just so much to consider, and plot points that contradict the other. Hmmmmm, things that make ya go :-)
There only thing I can take a guess at is the Serpent has some sort of card to play on Odin. Like tapping into his Odin Force or depowering him completely. I imagine Mighty Thor will reveal all soon enough.
There's alot of things that seem forced and extreme in this event that don't overall add up and make alot of sense. Odin has faced down Galactus, other allpowerfull skyfathers and so on. The fact that he's all of a sudden acting irrationally and out of character, seems quite weird, for me, personally. I mean, both he, Zeus and other skyfathers depend on earth, what about the Celestials and there plans?? I remember in Thor 300, Odin, Zeus and Vishnu confronted Arishem regarding Earth, and Arishem threatend to cut off there access to Earth, and they conceded. Now, he's all of a sudden gonna cleanse the earth and kill everything in it, cause he can't handle his brother that came out of nowhere?? Too many extremes and out of character moments to make this seem like a very threatening and substantial event, little bit too forced, with Odin acting very out of character for my liking, and Thor?? After all the progress JMS was making with him and Asgard, kinda feel like it's being flushed down the toilet for this major event. That's just my personal take and feeling on this.
So how is there not some form of pis/wis involved in this, but it's ridiculous to think that Thor can't hold his own against heralds of the Serpent?? There's always a certain amount of pis involved for a lot of these major stories, take Chaos War, for example, break that down, you i'd bet my last dollar you'd get more than alot of WTF's!!!! There's no reason to assume Thor can't hold his own against these heralds if he can supposedly take on/take it to the Serpent, who' powers these two. Thor has gone up and down himself, and had a good reintnroduction with JMS, but then Fraction has taken a lot of what JMS built, and tore it down, in characterization for Thor, amongst other things. I recall Thor comming to terms with his Father in issue 7 & 8 of JMS's run, yet now he's been relegated to his father beating bag?? I don't see people screaming piss about that, yet, it's piss if he's able to take on these two heralds, but, it's shown he's destined to take on the Serpent!!
It's part of the spell that bound the Serpent that he can somehow take him down. Given how he is shattering Cap's shield with his fingers, he is tremendously stronger than Thor. The only thing I don't get is why Odin can't kick his !@#, as the Serpent has shown nothing power wise to make me think otherwise.ot
Totally agreed and understand where your comming from. There's just so much to consider, and plot points that contradict the other. Hmmmmm, things that make ya go :-)
Current Thor is not Classic Thor. I'm not quite sure how much more evidence some need.
How is the same character not the same character?
He's saying that they aren't on the same level.
as for that they are Supposed to be exactly equal in all of there powers. But all Skyfathers are not Equal. Thor couldn't stand up to Odin for more than a few minutes in classic comics. but stalemated Zeus for months. So don't you think it's possible that Bor might be more powerful than Odin? Cronous Zeus's father is more powerful than Zeus.
and the last time Odin decided to take his anger out on Thor...he was just about helpless.
So how is there not some form of pis/wis involved in this, but it's ridiculous to think that Thor can't hold his own against heralds of the Serpent?? There's always a certain amount of pis involved for a lot of these major stories, take Chaos War, for example, break that down, you i'd bet my last dollar you'd get more than alot of WTF's!!!! There's no reason to assume Thor can't hold his own against these heralds if he can supposedly take on/take it to the Serpent, who' powers these two. Thor has gone up and down himself, and had a good reintnroduction with JMS, but then Fraction has taken a lot of what JMS built, and tore it down, in characterization for Thor, amongst other things. I recall Thor comming to terms with his Father in issue 7 & 8 of JMS's run, yet now he's been relegated to his father beating bag?? I don't see people screaming piss about that, yet, it's piss if he's able to take on these two heralds, but, it's shown he's destined to take on the Serpent!!
I second this. Without some kind of crazy plot device or someone intervening, Thor is toast.
Why? How? You do realize, that Thor even stated this, that he and the Serpent were to die in battle, and the Serpent was revealed to be Odin's brother, Thor's uncle. The Serpent powers his heralds, those you've mentioned in this battle, so, if Thor let's loose, who can take on the Serpent himeself, even if it cost's him his life, why, then, is it not possible for him to take on his servents???
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