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#1 Posted by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio

@thing150: If you're so set on being right about something, you should find a way to support yourself. Him saying he's run scenarios before battle is not proof he doesn't run them after as well. It's not like he says "I only run scenarios before a fight" just "I've already run a million scenarios before the fight started". It's similar you taking his statement that he runs a million to mean he doesn't run any more than that.

Maybe he was wrong to comment on your knowledge of the character, but an even ruder response is of no help to anyone.

Im not here to deal with the past.

#2 Edited by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@monsterstomp: I either didn't notice the anti-vibranium part or the OP edited it in. I assume the OP means anti-metal which I guess would bypass the suit since it destroys all metal contact.

If BP uses his force field the bullets won't touch him. And even if the bullets do touch him, they'll have no momentum when they do so the damage theyd do basically just resting on the vibranium for a fraction of a second would be minimal.

#3 Posted by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: Just passing through, helping out, learning.

#4 Edited by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio

@thing150: This "you mad?" thing never really made sense to me as a discourse tool. And your whole first sentence? Two forms of laughter, mockery at the idea that someone might be emotionally invested in something, then an insinuation of immaturity on the part of your conversation partner and superiority on your own, all of it is the most unneeded and oft-repeated posturing. Can we skip that next time?

In addition to instances where Midnighter says he's run "all" the possible scenarios (which could even surpass a trillion) Midnighter has said before that he could run a million a second as well as that he's run a trillion. What you see on the card and in other places is that he's "already" run a million or he's run a million "before the first punch is even thrown". All it's saying is that before the fight even starts he's done a million. That's just where he starts from, and assuming that's his limit without something specifically saying so seems to me like a bad idea. But here are some examples to support my statements. In the first image he says its true that he processes a million a second. In the second he says both that he processes every possible outcome and that he'd already gone through a trillion versions of not just the fight but the whole day.

#5 Posted by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio

They might have had a chance if they weren't on his home turf, poor guys...

#6 Posted by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk is in pieces at the end of this fight.

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#8 Edited by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio


Midnighter's striking ability isn't just about what strength level you want to guess he's at. He knows how and where to strike with the strength he has to get the effect he wants. He doesn't need to be stronger than a character to break them down physically. When he takes it to Hawksmoor he's doing more than just using his momentum against him. He makes a blow to the back of his head and knees him in the chest between the images that were posted above. That's actually their second fight and in the first they exchange solid blows to each others heads before the fight is interrupted. Despite not have strength anywhere near Jack's 100+ tons or his incredible durability, Midnighter is able to fight him fairly well in h2h. And that's because he can make the strength he does have count. It's easier to accept if you see Midnighter like Karnak or Karate Kid.

Wolverine's brawn isn't much to write home about when you consider that Mr. X, who was human and didn't have move prediction anywhere near the level Midnighter is working at, was able to school Wolverine without much trouble. Add in Midnighter being able to hit well enough to drop Hawksmoor, Maul, Sebastian, and others, and Midnighter should be able to handle him. As for Deathstroke being a teambuster that can take down Justice League level beings, even pretending he's beating up Superman-level characters with any regularity and not just picking on children most of the time, Midnighter does the same. In the fight shown where he takes on Apollo, he's also taking on the rest of The Authority, and he's doing it easily. This is the guy who only starts to feel mental strain when he's working on fighting literally a million enemies at once. He's the sort of guy who jumps a couple dozen superhumans at once and runs that fight so well that he can maneuver every one of them into standing exactly where he wants so they can be blasted away by precision lasers from space. A character that will fight dozens of enemies at once and take pride in a rip in his coat being the closest they ever got to touching him. Midnighter's no stranger to fighting groups.

You're right about blood splatter not being the final word on a strikes effectiveness, but when you have something like the instance with Apollo, where the blood goes right along with a direct comment about damage being done to the area where the blood is coming from, it's more than just random splatter for effect.

#9 Posted by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio

@pr0metheus: I don't think Prometheus' skill would really be a factor. Nemesis and Midnighter should outskill him before you even get to their various forms of precog and move reading. I think Iron Man's potential offensive onslaught would be more useful for his team. Granted, between Midnighter's Doors and Nemesis' shields I don't see Iron Man's attacks actually doing any damage.

#10 Edited by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio


Most of what I'd say has been mentioned but I might as well make a personal list since I was called out


Wildcats 3.0


Warren Ellis's Stormwatch + The Authority (then continue as far as you feel you need to, but if you dip out, be sure to return for Brubaker's Revolution)

Secret History of Jack Hawksmoor

Global Frequency

Astro City

Ex Machina

Abnett & Lanning's Mr. Majestic run

Volume 2 of Wildcats is, in my mind, the same sort of thing as the later Authority stuff. It adds something to the world of the primary recommendation (Wildcats 3.0), in this case setting it up and beginning the process of redefining the title and the subject matter, but isn't essential. The post World's End stuff for The Authority and Wildcats are worth reading as well. Different than the other incarnations of those titles, and while not quite as great, a good exploration of the characters and whatnot. I think The Authority is a bit better than the Wildcats in World's End.