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Posted by The_Martian

The team could defeat Aang as long as he stays out of Avatar State.

Posted by Power NeXus

When you say "use whatever they want", I'll assume that includes the Avatar State.

If so, Aang slaughterstomps.

If not, it's very close but I think Aang gets beaten.

Posted by LT1085

What is this "avatar state" you speak of?

Posted by EpitomeofCool

Whatever they want = blood bending by Katara. If this is to the death, she could split him open.  Team 2 FTW.

Posted by Fire-brand

aang goes avatar state and defeats them all, katara can't bloodbend aang because A) its not the full moon and she can't bloodbend or B) it is the full moon and aangs waterbending is also enhance canceling katara's control.

Posted by Power NeXus
@LT1085 said:
"What is this "avatar state" you speak of? "

I'm not entirely sure how to respond to this. Either 1) you are being sarcastic or 2) you haven't watched Avatar: The Last Airbender at all. 
 
@EpitomeofCool said:
"Whatever they want = blood bending by Katara. If this is to the death, she could split him open.  Team 2 FTW. "

... 
You do realize Aang is a waterbender too, and a far more powerful one than Katara is, right?
Posted by EpitomeofCool
@Power NeXus: More powerful only in Avatar State. And so what? Aang doesn't know bloodbending, otherwise he would have stopped Hama himself. He doesn't know Metal bending, or sword craft either.
Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010
@Fire-brand said:
" aang goes avatar state and defeats them all, katara can't bloodbend aang because A) its not the full moon and she can't bloodbend or B) it is the full moon and aangs waterbending is also enhance canceling katara's control. "
You state that there is no full moon, where did you get this info?  
Also, Aang never learned Bloodbending, and yes you are right, both of the waterbender's powers are inhanced 3 times fold, but you seem to forget just how powerful Katara is, if for some strange reason Katara was not able to defeat Aang in the Avatar State, I am sure she would be able to protect herself against him long enough to use her bloodbending powers on him. Hama was the first person to ever use Bloodbending, and Katara was the second, not one other Avatar was ever able to experence the power of it, nor have they ever had tom defend themselves against it, so Aang wouldnt have the abitity have one of the other Avatars from his prevous lives come in and do some magic. 
Katara alone woud be able to defeat Avatar Aang when he was in or out of the Avatar State.
Posted by MrDirector786

I'm going with Aang.

Posted by THUNDERBOLT30
@Fire-brand said:
"aang goes avatar state and defeats them all, katara can't bloodbend aang because A) its not the full moon and she can't bloodbend or B) it is the full moon and aangs waterbending is also enhance canceling katara's control. "

You read my mind here. In the avatar state Aangs power levels jump massively and it has been shown that when he is that state and battled masters in each of these elements (except I don't recall a fight with a water-bending master), he easily beat them. Aang in the avatar state for the win.
Posted by The Mango

Aang would destroy them all.

Posted by Diamondache

well think of aang as Jean Grey an the "Gaang" are the Xmen, would the Xmen be able to kill one of their own and vis versa with aang,

Posted by EpitomeofCool

Let's not forget that Aang in the Avatar State is not invulnerable. Azula easily stuck him down with lightning. Aang would have died had it not been for Katara's healing water of the oasis.

Posted by WhiteLantern#1

Aang wins. In the end he finally realizes his full potential and learns from a giant sea lion turtle. He literally takes the Dragon Emperor (Soazon maybe) powers away. He wins hands down.
 

Posted by Power NeXus
@EpitomeofCool:  

More powerful only in Avatar State. 

 
Are you being serious? 
Don't you remember when Katara first tried to teach Aang a couple of waterbending tricks? She said it had taken her months to figure them out, and Aang was doing them better than she was in moments.   
 

Let's not forget that Aang in the Avatar State is not invulnerable. Azula easily stuck him down with lightning.

 
That was just the 'bending' equivalent of a sucker punch. She hit him from behind before he was fully in the Avatar State. 


Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010
@Power NeXus said:
"@EpitomeofCool:  

More powerful only in Avatar State. 

 
Are you being serious? 
Don't you remember when Katara first tried to teach Aang a couple of waterbending tricks? She said it had taken her months to figure them out, and Aang was doing them better than she was in moments.   
 

Let's not forget that Aang in the Avatar State is not invulnerable. Azula easily stuck him down with lightning.

 
That was just the 'bending' equivalent of a sucker punch. She hit him from behind before he was fully in the Avatar State. 


"

The fact of the matter is that Azula did kill him, no matter how she did it, she got her victory and when it comes to Katara's bloodbending I think she could still take him down. Yes Avatar Aang is able to take the power away from others, but he would need to be able to touch them and have a few moments, Katara could keep him away just by using bloodbending. When it comes to Metal-Bending, I dont think that any Avatar in any life of his has ever metal bended before, with His earthbending teacher and waterbending teacher working together, I dout that Avatar Aang would be able to beat them.
Posted by EpitomeofCool
@VictoriaGrey_2010: Absolutely right!
Posted by gobstakid777

If Aang is in Avatar State, nothing they can do is gonna stop him from effortlessly ripping them apart 
If not, Aang if too inexperienced to take on all of them

Posted by hdorman1

aang takes this 

Posted by Fortified_Hooligan

Sokka is almost useless in this fight, unless he gets some good strategizing in early, which he has shown a flare for.

 

Toph will have a hard time locating and hitting Aang when he's in avatar state, as i don't think he has ever stayed in contact with the ground while all lit up. He flies around or uses giant constructs. She would be pretty well protected from his attacks, but she would be mostly blind to those as well, so she would be taken off-guard pretty easily. The others will clue her in to where he is, but with having to rely on their info, she will be behind in the fight.

 

I see Zuko as the second weakest link in this fight, next to Sokka. He has always been a sort of strait-forward fighter. He lacks  the power of his father during the comet, the skill of his sister, the inginuity of Katara, and the durability of Toph. Aang beat Zuko, or stale-mated him several times in the first season without the benefit of experience or avatar state.

 

Katara is the most dangerous opponent for him in this fight. They did say that the full moon needs to be out for her to use blood bending, but i think she did it anyway during the comet without the moon. Katara's biggest weakness here is going to be her mobility. Few people can move like Aang moves when he's fired up and Katara isn't one of them.

 

I think Aang stands a very good chance of completely wiping these guys out without any trouble.

Posted by Power NeXus
@EpitomeofCool:
@VictoriaGrey_2010:  
 
When Aang is in the Avatar State, he managed to not only beat Firelord Ozai (empowered by Sozin's comet), but slap him around like a novice. 
The example concerning Azula is the only example of Aang being defeated while in the Avatar State, and it doesn't fully count either. Aang had not fully reached his Avatar State yet (he was still in the middle of the 'stare blankly into space and float up slowly' stage). Azula simply took advantage of this and one-shotted him with a bolt of lightning (an attack that nobody on Team Avatar can conjure up). 
When bloodlusted and in the Avatar State, Aang is the most powerful bender in the Avatar universe, bar none. It will take far more than a waterbending master (who can bloodbend only during a full moon, and there is no evidence to indicate she can bloodbend someone in the Avatar State) an earthbending master (who's metalbending armor would be easily countered by Aang's lightning), a firebender, and a guy with a sword to accomplish something that the most powerful firebender in the world failed miserably to do.
Posted by Power NeXus
@Fortified_Hooligan: 

 

They did say that the full moon needs to be out for her to use blood bending, but i think she did it anyway during the comet without the moon.  

 

I do not remember that instance at all, and it seems illogical since Sozin's comet would not empower waterbenders.

Posted by cascadeking09

I dont get y everybody thinks Katara would blood bend. She only did it and one episode and it seemed like she's too scared to do it again. On top of that they can only do it during a full moon.

Edited by VictoriaGrey_2010
@cascadeking09 said:

"I dont get y everybody thinks Katara would blood bend. She only did it and one episode and it seemed like she's too scared to do it again. On top of that they can only do it during a full moon. "


I dout she would, but this tread is talking about who would win, Katara is able to Blood-Bend, so that would go alone with one of her many forms of waterbending, also, This thread is asking who would win, AVATAR AANG or !@#$%^&**$!@#$%^ (dont want to name then all), it never states the conditions, it never said Avatar Aang was in the Avatar States, and it never said the Harvest Moon wasnt out, we kind of took it into our own hands when it come to the conditions. :)
Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010
@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"@EpitomeofCool said:

" @Power NeXus: More powerful only in Avatar State. And so what? Aang doesn't know bloodbending, otherwise he would have stopped Hama himself. He doesn't know Metal bending, or sword craft either. "

Katara didn't know bloodbending, but she knows how to bend water and knew she was more powerful than Hama so she won, all she really needed to know was that the body is mostly water, like when Aang found out the same thing about clouds and on a desert adventure bending one to get water for the group.  Aang is the avatar which means he is a gifted bender that only had to see a waterbending feat once and he could do it better than Katara like when they stole the water bending scroll.  Earth and fire had a natural and created psychological blocks respectively, but he overcame them, he only had to see a move once and it was pretty much mastered with enhanced force.  The only reason why other water benders don't bloodbend is because none of them became desperate enough to try, but it is no different than plant and vine bending another skill that most water benders don't do because the majority live in the artic.     "

The fact of the matter is that he didnt learn it, I am sure that if he did his chances would be much higher, but the fact of the matter is that it didnt happen :( 
Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010
@Fortified_Hooligan said:
"

Sokka is almost useless in this fight, unless he gets some good strategizing in early, which he has shown a flare for.

 

Toph will have a hard time locating and hitting Aang when he's in avatar state, as i don't think he has ever stayed in contact with the ground while all lit up. He flies around or uses giant constructs. She would be pretty well protected from his attacks, but she would be mostly blind to those as well, so she would be taken off-guard pretty easily. The others will clue her in to where he is, but with having to rely on their info, she will be behind in the fight.

 

I see Zuko as the second weakest link in this fight, next to Sokka. He has always been a sort of strait-forward fighter. He lacks  the power of his father during the comet, the skill of his sister, the inginuity of Katara, and the durability of Toph. Aang beat Zuko, or stale-mated him several times in the first season without the benefit of experience or avatar state.

 

Katara is the most dangerous opponent for him in this fight. They did say that the full moon needs to be out for her to use blood bending, but i think she did it anyway during the comet without the moon. Katara's biggest weakness here is going to be her mobility. Few people can move like Aang moves when he's fired up and Katara isn't one of them.

 

I think Aang stands a very good chance of completely wiping these guys out without any trouble.

"


I think that you need to get your facts straight. 
You speak of Toph as if she was some kind of blind little crippled, but in reality, Toph can see better than most people on earth by using the vibrations to see where she is going. When it comes to Toph's hearing, well she is blind, so that is something that she has had to get used to for most of her life, so I am sure that any blind person can hear twice a good as a "normal" person, Toph hearing is what she would use in order to protect herself against Avatar Aang, also, do you not remember the suit of metal that she made when they were all in the battle of Sozin's Comet? She could use that in order protect herself against the elements of the Avatar. 
When it comes to Sokka, you say that he is useless, are you serious? Sokka may not be able to BATTLE the Avatar, but he is the one who has come up with some of the most brilliant BATTLING Ideas on the show. Also as I recall he is the one who destroyed the big war balloons in Sozin's Comet, correct? He came up with that idea and many many more. 
When it comes to Katara, she doesn’t have the weakness that you stated, in the battle between her and Azula, she was able to ski in the ice that she was bending, she could do that anywhere she wanted, don’t forget where there is air there is water. Also Katara doesn’t even have to touch Avatar Aang in order to defeat him, she just needs to defend herself against him long enough to blood-bend him down. Aang and any other human is Katara’s toy.  
When it comes to Zuko, he is not weak at all, yes every time the Avatar fought Zuko, the Avatar won, but that was before Zuko made peace with himself, once he had done that, the flame within him grew stronger and more powerful, so get your facts straight. Also, Zuko is able to redirect Lighting, that is something that Azula and his FATHER CAN NOT DO! 
Where do you get your facts? Wiki? You really need to watch the show sometime.    

Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010
@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"@VictoriaGrey_2010 said:
"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:
"@EpitomeofCool said:

" @Power NeXus: More powerful only in Avatar State. And so what? Aang doesn't know bloodbending, otherwise he would have stopped Hama himself. He doesn't know Metal bending, or sword craft either. "

Katara didn't know bloodbending, but she knows how to bend water and knew she was more powerful than Hama so she won, all she really needed to know was that the body is mostly water, like when Aang found out the same thing about clouds and on a desert adventure bending one to get water for the group.  Aang is the avatar which means he is a gifted bender that only had to see a waterbending feat once and he could do it better than Katara like when they stole the water bending scroll.  Earth and fire had a natural and created psychological blocks respectively, but he overcame them, he only had to see a move once and it was pretty much mastered with enhanced force.  The only reason why other water benders don't bloodbend is because none of them became desperate enough to try, but it is no different than plant and vine bending another skill that most water benders don't do because the majority live in the artic.     "
The fact of the matter is that he didnt learn it, I am sure that if he did his chances would be much higher, but the fact of the matter is that it didnt happen :(  "
the fact of the matter is that Katara did not learn it either she didn't want to so Hama used it on her, her words were my bending is stronger, and that was why she used it, that and the full moon.  Aang is a more gifted bender and his bending is stronger than Katara and he would get a boost from the full moon just like he got a boost from the comet, so still he would be more powerful than her and at least be able to negate bloodbending the same way she did when she herself did not learn it.  When Hama used it Aang was not even aware of what was going on, he was controlled just like Katara was when it was first used on her, yet she was aware of what was happening and stopped it through her stronger bending.  Aang is now aware of bloodbending and even without the Avatar state is a more powerful bender than Katara, so even if he doesn't know it he can overcome her bending the way a master can out bend  and take the element being bending by a lesser bender. "


I didnt mean it that way, I am sure if Aang had to learn it like Katara did it would happen, but I said it didnt happen, I mean in the show, Aang never had a conflict like this so he never had to confront this. I am Speaking off actions that have actually happened, not the "What If". 
Posted by shonen2

Anyone find the white washing of Avatar a bit racist...I mean this isn't knew for hollywood I recall there was this movie based on this group of asian college kids using their math skills to make lots of money in vegas, however when translated over into movies hollywood made nearly the entire cast white and only added in like 1 asian guy. I mean come on.
Posted by cascadeking09

I know I feel the same way. It still looks pretty good, though.

Posted by EpitomeofCool
@Phoenix of the Black Throne: Yes Katara does know bloodbending, and she was called a Bloodbender by Hama.
Edited by VictoriaGrey_2010

@Phoenix of the Black Throne:

For your info I use "What Ifs" when it comes to the battle its self, not when it comes to the given power. The Fact is that none of us know how Avatar Aang would react to being attacked with the blood-bending method. We knew that Katara would have won the fight if Hama would have attacked, mainly because of the iorny, and also because we knew that Katara was a stronger waterbender, when it comes to Katara and Aang, Katara has show much more powerful waterbending moves, maybe not at first, but in time she did.
Also you state that the Avatar State would kick in if the Avatar was in danger, well as I recall Hama was going to KILL the Avatar. If Katara wasn’t there Aang wouldn't have had enough time to change into to Avatar State, so that there wouldn’t work, and also, the Avatar is NOT the strongest bender of each element, not even in the Avatar State. 
Do you remember when Roku was showing Aang and telling him about what the Avatar State is made for? Well in the vision, it shows a Fire Bender Bending the Lava out of a Volcano, a pure Grandmaster Fire- Bender. As I recall Roku died when he was battling the Volcano, he used the Avatar State thing, but that wasn’t enough to win, the Grand Master was Stronger than the Avatar himself when it came to the element of Fire. Also, the "battle" that Avatar Aang and Toph fought in wasn’t really considered a battle, all you had to do was knock the other opponent out of the ring and that fight was before Toph and Aang had all of the XP that they have now.  

P.S( Don’t take this argument too serious, you are still my favorite person on here, lol, I hate to fight with you, even though it is so much fun! :P)    

Posted by Power NeXus

@VictoriaGrey_2010:  

You speak of Toph as if she was some kind of blind little crippled, but in reality, Toph can see better than most people on earth by using the vibrations to see where she is going. When it comes to Toph's hearing, well she is blind, so that is something that she has had to get used to for most of her life, so I am sure that any blind person can hear twice a good as a "normal" person, Toph hearing is what she would use in order to protect herself against Avatar Aang, also, do you not remember the suit of metal that she made when they were all in the battle of Sozin's Comet? She could use that in order protect herself against the elements of the Avatar. 

 
Do you remember when Aang went up against Toph in the earthbending ring? As long as he was using airbending to stay off the ground, she couldn't tell where he was. 
And using metal armor wouldn't help her. OP says Aang can produce lightning.   
 

When it comes to Sokka, you say that he is useless, are you serious? Sokka may not be able to BATTLE the Avatar, but he is the one who has come up with some of the most brilliant BATTLING Ideas on the show. Also as I recall he is the one who destroyed the big war balloons in Sozin's Comet, correct? He came up with that idea and many many more.

 

Sokka can be incredible when he has prep time, but he's useless if this is just a straigh-up no prep fight.

Forum rules say that if specifications about prep time are not given, assume there is no prep time.   
 

When it comes to Katara, she doesn’t have the weakness that you stated, in the battle between her and Azula, she was able to ski in the ice that she was bending, she could do that anywhere she wanted, don’t forget where there is air there is water.

 
Even after Katara found out about that technique from the water bending master, I don't recall her drawing water out of the air in any other time in the series.   
 

Also Katara doesn’t even have to touch Avatar Aang in order to defeat him, she just needs to defend herself against him long enough to blood-bend him down. Aang and any other human is Katara’s toy.

 

When he's in the Avatar State, Aang is the living personification of the four elements. Some would probably argue that having that level of power would allow him to resist bloodbending. 
But my main point is that we can't just assume a full moon is out during this fight. It's true that no details concerning this matter are given in the OP, but full moons aren't exactly every day occurances. The chances of this fight happening during a full moon are extremely slim.   
 

When it comes to Zuko, he is not weak at all, yes every time the Avatar fought Zuko, the Avatar won, but that was before Zuko made peace with himself, once he had done that, the flame within him grew stronger and more powerful, so get your facts straight. Also, Zuko is able to redirect Lighting, that is something that Azula and his FATHER CAN NOT DO! 

 
I don't remember any really significant power boost after Zuko came to peace with himself. He might have become a little more powerful after learning from the Sun Warriors, but nothing really noteworthy. His only real power boost came during Sozin's comet.  
Aang, on the other hand, was able to take on Zuko even when the only element he knew was airbending. Aang has become exponentially more powerful since then. 
And redirection of lighting does not mean that a firebender has incredible power. It's simply an obscure technique that almost no firebenders know or would want to learn, since it is based on the style of waterbending.



 

Edited by VictoriaGrey_2010
@Power NeXus: 

I suppose you are right about the Harvest Moon, but then again it never states that the Avatar is in the Avatar State, correct? 
I agree when it comes to Sokka, he is only useless when it comes to this fight  as long as it is a straight-up no prep fight, but that is the only time.
You are also correct when it comes to Katara bending water out of thin air, but only to a certain extent. Hama, is the one who taught Katara how to use the water inside of the plants, but it never shows Hama and Katara performing this exercise, but as you and I seen in the battle between the two, Katara used the water that was inside of the plant like object to get water correct? So when it comes to the technique of bending the water in the air, we in a way kind of have to assume/pretend that we seen Hama teaching these techniques. 
The only thing that caught my eye about your post was when you talked about Zuko. I truly do agree with you on that, I should have used better word choice on that post, in the end, you still got my point.
When it comes to Toph, well, she makes a body suit out of metal, when lightning strikes metal, I thought it only hits the outside of it, Toph is on the inside, and also, I do NEVER recall Avatar Aang bending the element of lighting, I do however remember him redirecting it.    

Posted by xmenfallen

aang can win this but he will get hurt
 
and i think katara is more of a skilled waterbender than aang in avatar state cause aang did not show bloodbending

Posted by Power NeXus

@VictoriaGrey_2010:  

I suppose you are right about the Harvest Moon, but then again it never states that the Avatar is in the Avatar State, correct? 

 
The OP says they can use whatever they want to win. I assume that includes the Avatar State as well.  
 

You are also correct when it comes to Katara bending water out of thin air, but only to a certain extent. Hama, is the one who taught Katara how to use the water inside of the plants, but it never shows Hama and Katara performing this exercise, but as you and I seen in the battle between the two, Katara used the water that was inside of the plant like object to get water correct? So when it comes to the technique of bending the water in the air, we in a way kind of have to assume/pretend that we seen Hama teaching these techniques. 

 

I was just saying that that one episode is the only one in the series in which I remember any waterbender drawing water out of the air.  
We can assume that Hama taught the technique to Katara, but Katara never used it outside that episode. Possibly because the events of the episode gave Katara negative feelings toward any technique she learned from Hama. 
  
When it comes to Toph, well, she makes a body suit out of metal, when lightning strikes metal, I thought it only hits the outside of it, Toph is on the inside

 
Metal conducts electricity. Wearing metal armor would just have the same effect as running around with a tall metal stick in a lightning storm. If you're touching the metal, you will get electrocuted.  
 

I do NEVER recall Avatar Aang bending the element of lighting, I do however remember him redirecting it though

 
My mistake. I suppose it was another recent Avatar battle where the OP stated that Aang could use lightning for the fight. 
Still, even if he can't use lightning, there are other ways for Avatar State Aang to easily beat Toph. For instance, a max power firebending blast would superheat the armor and cook her inside of it. 


Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010

WHO IS OP!?!?!?! :P 
lol
Posted by Power NeXus
@VictoriaGrey_2010 said:
"WHO IS OP!?!?!?! :P lol "

OP is Comicvine slang for 'original post'. A thread's OP is it's starting post.
Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010
@Power NeXus:
lol, hahahahha, sorry that is so funny to say, "cook Toph"  
Also if the OP says they can use whatever they need to win, then Blood Bending counts. 
And when it comes to Toph and the metal suit, well maybe she she get a new outfit, but still, I dont think Toph would be easy at all to beat.  
She could come up with many other ways to avoid or weaken the Avatar, also, you all have to remember, all these people are working together, all this power, they can defend each other and heal if needed, this is not an everyone for them selves. And I do agree win it comes to the feelings of that episode, but the fact is that Katara is capable of using those types of waterbending, wether she likes it or not.
Posted by Power NeXus

@VictoriaGrey_2010:  

Also if the OP says they can use whatever they need to win, then Blood Bending counts.

 
I've been going with the idea of "yes avatar state, no bloodbending" since the Avatar State is something that Aang can have access to at any time, whereas bloodbending is a plot device that is available only once a month. 
With different circumstances, this fight could go either way. However, a full moon is a rare thing. So in the most likely circumstance (which is all we can guess at), there would be no bloodbending.  
 

And when it comes to Toph and the metal suit, well maybe she she get a new outfit, but still, I dont think Toph would be easy at all to beat.  
She could come up with many other ways to avoid or weaken the Avatar, also, you all have to remember, all these people are working together, all this power, they can defend each other and heal if needed, this is not an everyone for them selves.

 
I'm not saying that they wouldn't put up an excellant fight. They have the advantage of numbers, Katara and Toph are excellant benders in their own rite, Zuko isn't far behind them, Sokka is good for organization and battle plans, and all of them have excessive experience in knowing Aang's fighting style. I am just of the opinion that all that just isn't enough to get a majority of victories over a person who is the living embodiment of the earth spirit, and has vastly superior control over each individual element than any other bender on earth. 

Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010
@Power NeXus: 

You said that the OP say WHATEVER they need to win, so in this case, Katara NEEDS the Harvest Moon, lol 
Also, I now see where you are coming from, but I will not change my mind, I still do think that with all of them working together, they will win.  
Also, if you look at the post that I posted earlier, you will see what I mean when I say that the Avatar isn’t the strongest bender of each element. 
The Avatar is designed to control all for elements to a high level of power, so if all of the nations were to die, the Avatar would still be able to bring balance to the world, but he/she is not the Strongest of each element.    

Posted by The Mango

Avatar Aang would simply overpower any bloodbending attemptt by Katara.

Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010

@The Mango said:

"Avatar Aang would simply overpower any bloodbending attemptt by Katara."


Katara is a stronger waterbender though, Avatar Aanf has never shown any resistance against bloodbending, when Hama was about to kill Aang, the Avatar State did not kick in and he was not able to break free of it, now if Hama could do that, imagine what Katara could do.

Posted by pooty
Aang is the Avatar for a reason. If Katara was so powerful she could have fought the Firelord once a month. Bloodbending is meant to show that Katara is the most powerful waterbender outside of the Avatar. Aang can pull water out of anywhere including Katara's. We also don't know if there is a distance needed for bloodbending to work. Aang has 1000's of years of experience to Katara's 15 yrs. I'm sure he can come up with something.
Posted by xmenfallen
@pooty: i know aang can win this but
i believe that katara is a more skilled water bender because KATARA TAUGHT AANG
Posted by VictoriaGrey_2010
@pooty:
Um, how does AANG have THOUSANDS of years of training? He is only 112 years old and he has only lived 12 of them. 
Also, you state that Katara is the most powerful waterbender outside of the Avatar, well how come HE wasnt able to break free out of Hama's bending? 
Also, what gives you the idea that Avatar Aang could bend Katara? He hasnt even been introduced to bloodbending, nor ever gone against a Bloodbender and have a victory.
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@VictoriaGrey_2010:  Um, when Aang is in the Avatar state he has ALL OF THEIR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE. He was not in avatar state when he fought Hama now was he? I didn't say he could "bend" her i said he can pull water OUT of her as he has done with clouds and sands. And Katara has never faced an Avatar with control of all the elements and have a victory has she? Katara would have lost to Azula if  Zuko didn't jump in front of her.  She's a one trick pony.
 
@xmenfallen: @VictoriaGrey_2010:

someone taught Katara but she became more powerful than him correct? I don't think she is more skilled just because she has one move he doesn't. Zuko knew how to redirect lightning. Does that automatically make him more powerful than his sister or father cuz they have never done it? Also Katara was never taught how to bloodbend. Its not like she took lessons. After Aang saw it done i'm sure he picked up on it just as fast as Katara did. He picked up on waterbending faster than she ever could. Her words
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@pooty: 
i think so maybe idk..... i think so aang cant blood bend so that is an advantage for katara i think zuko and azula are of the same level cause azula strikes lightning but zuko can redirect it aang did not picked it up HAVE YOU SEEN AANG BLOODBEND UHHHH NO
Posted by pooty
@xmenfallen:  Aang is able to pick up and duplicate EVERY form of bending. That's what he does. He's the Taskmaster of the Avatar world. He had done EVERY OTHER MOVE THAT SHE HAS DONE. But he can't do this one? All it is is moving water.  Correct? Can Aang move water? Can he control water? Than he can bloodbend. And Azula is way more powerful than zuko. I don't think Zuko can produce lightning. He can't even get that hot. Azula can fly with her firebending. Can Zuko?  Once again just because a person can do ONE move does not win a battle. Wait  A MINUTE !! Zuko brought Katara in the final battle cuz they knew that neither of them could beat Azula on their own!!!! Have you seen Katara Earth bend or Fire bend or air bend? UHHH NO. seems like she has more to learn than Aang does.
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@pooty said:
" @VictoriaGrey_2010:  Um, when Aang is in the Avatar state he has ALL OF THEIR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE. He was not in avatar state when he fought Hama now was he? I didn't say he could "bend" her i said he can pull water OUT of her as he has done with clouds and sands. And Katara has never faced an Avatar with control of all the elements and have a victory has she? Katara would have lost to Azula if  Zuko didn't jump in front of her.  She's a one trick pony.
 
@xmenfallen: @VictoriaGrey_2010: someone taught Katara but she became more powerful than him correct? I don't think she is more skilled just because she has one move he doesn't. Zuko knew how to redirect lightning. Does that automatically make him more powerful than his sister or father cuz they have never done it? Also Katara was never taught how to bloodbend. Its not like she took lessons. After Aang saw it done i'm sure he picked up on it just as fast as Katara did. He picked up on waterbending faster than she ever could. Her words "

For you to insalt Katara shows just how little you know about the characters and the abilities. 
For your information, Katara was caught off guard on that lighting attack, but in the end Azula Lost. I do love Azula, she is my favorite peron on the Avatar show, but the fact of the matter was that in the end Katara won. 
Also, Katara is a more powerful waterbender than the Avatar, did you not see my prevous posts? I explained why the Avatar is not the strongest, it even shows it in the show. 
Also, you say that the Avatar is the strongest bender correct? Well if he is a stronger Waterbender than Katara why wasnt he able to break free from the Bloodbending of Hama like Katara was able to?  
Also, in the post that I was correcting you in, you never stated that you were talking about Avatar Aang in the avatar state, so dont get cocky with me. 
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@pooty:
Ok, how in the hell did Azula get into this battle? 
We all know that Azula is more powerful than Zuko, the only reason she lost was because she was going crazing, but if Katara and Azula were at their peeks, Katara would win.  
Also, you talk about how Zuko is "so" weak next to Azula (atleast in so many words), but in the fight of Ba Sing Sa, Azula was near defeat, when Katara was about to make her victory of Azula If it werent for Zuko ( the oh so "weak" one) Azula would have lost. You also talk about how one little move doesnt really make a difference correct, I mean it was you who stated that "Just because Katara knows Bloodbending and Aang doesnt, it doesnt mean she wins" but if that is the case, then why menton that Azula knows how to bend lighting and Zuko doesnt?
Also, you speak as if the winner depends on the number of moves they know, well it doesnt, it depends on who is bending, and who is the most powerful when it comes to that element. In this case Katara is a stronger waterbender, not just because she knows bloodbending, but because her soulself is more powerful. Also you speak of all the "thousands" of years of XP, well even with all if that together, out of it all, not one Avatar has EVER gone against a bloodbender except Aang. Hama was the creature of that method, so I think you should choice your words more carefully or better yet, get your facts straight.
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