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@Fresh03 said:
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Taskmaster has the mutant ability, at least you have to assume it's a mutant ability, to mimic any physical ability he sees, even if he sees it in fast forward or rewind on video, even perfect aim, he's remarked that he's copied Bullseye's ability before, so has Echo for that matter, both of them just prefer hand to hand weapons such as swords as opposed to projectiles. 
I can't say for sure whether Bullseye has a form of super strength or not, it's never been commented on or dealt with in any way, although that would be interesting as heck, only his uncanny ability to use projectiles. 
The reason Bullseye didn't use much else besides the bows and arrows has been dealt with in Dark Avengers and Dark Reign: Hawkeye, he's having too much fun being Hawkeye and enjoys using the bow and arrow for the challenge of it.  As for the rest of his usual weapons, you can pin that on Daniel Way the writer of the arc for not having him use more of his traditional weapons. 
Like I said, I've got no doubt that Bullseye could take Deadpool in a fight, he did so in this arc, but Deadpool's other abilites besides his hand to hand are just too much to deal with on the long term since Deadpool just keeps coming back over and over again, although I'd imagine if Bullseye beat him over and over again Deadpool would eventually get distracted by something shiny and wander off elsewhere giving the victory to Bullseye. 
I understand your pain, I don't like seeing my favorite characters misused, like anyone besides a Deadpool or Wolverine being able to take out Taskmaster in a staright up hand to hand fight, the guy is an Avengers level super threat who gets crapped on all the time these days in my mind, but in this case there's a long history between the two both being friends and enemies that points to what my argument has been, which is if they fight long enough Deadpool will eventually come out on top, it's unavoidable.

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That may be so, but I just thought it was bad writing to not give Bullseye his traditional weapons.  Also, there is no way someone can throw a card into someone (no matter how well skilled) and kill them without some super-strength in their fingers.  I'm not against Bullseye getting beaten up by someone other than Deadpool; I will bring up "New Ways to Die" as an example.  Spiderman wins, but they portrayed Bullseye really well.  I just thaught Way didn't do as well a job as Guggenheim.  Not saying Deadpool couldn't win, I'm just saying we should have seen Bullseye do some real tricks.   
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@Fresh03 said:
"@box turtle:  Deadpool is immortal, Funeral for a Freak, he's cursed to never die because Death and him have a thing for each other, which is intolerable to Thanos who wants to be the lone consort of Death. If his head is separated from his body for long periods of time he experiences brain damage, on top of what he already has, or completely regrow his head like he's done in the past, i.e. Suicide Kings issued 3/4, although even brain damage should heal over time as well but with DP you never know, the writer for the Cable/Deadpool at that point, Reilly Brown, screwed up in the issue you're thinking of where he gets decapitated and Bob scrambles to put his head back on in time, which has since been addressed in the new ongoing Deadpool series, last issue actually, where he remarks on his immortality and his wish to die yet his inability to do so.   Messiah War takes place in an alternate future, not in continuity, so my point about him living until then isn't valid either, sorry, poor example on my part. As for Taskmaster:Cable/Deadpool #36, Deadpool beat Taskmaster fair and square, which Taskmaster admits, and wearing handcuffs to boot, DP is too unpredictable for Taskmaster, or almost anyone else in most cases when it comes to one on one hand to hand fighting, hence his reputation in the MU even if he is crazy as a loon.  He also took him down a couple of times during the Deadpool ongoing back in the late 90's early 00's as well, don't recall the exact issue right off the top of my head.    Given that Taskmaster has Bullseye's gift for projecties, along with about a bazillion other people's fighting styles, along with being able to move at superhuman speed for short bursts in my opinion shows exactly how dangerous DP is.  Deadpool also beat Bullseye on two seperate occasions during his orignal on going, issues #16 (DP did cheat a bit, but that's Deadpool for you), and #28 because Bullseye wasn't able to overcome his healing factor, he did allot of damage, but DP was too much for him in to handle, although Bullseye did cost him a payday in the end.  Could Bullseye take DP in a fight?  Sure, he did it in the very same arc we're debating, he can take DP down temporarily and that counts as win, but if was a fight to the finish there's no way for Bullseye to prevail in the long run, like what happened in the arc, DP's immortal, you can't kill what can't die, and Deadpool would just keep coming until Bullseye isn't able to incapacitate him and then he'd jam meathooks through Bullseye's chest again or something of the sort.  They do have a twisted friendship/sense of respect for each other, so it's debateable that they'd ever actually kill each other, but if it came down to it Bullseye has no possible way to win.  Obviously we have very different opinions, and I see where you're coming from in that you don't like how Bullseye was handled in this arc, and for that you can blame Daniel Way, but based on both individuals' known power sets I just can't buy that Bullseye could overcome what he's up against. "

OK, maybe Deadpool IS immortal, but I still think Bullseye can beat him.  His ability with projectiles far surpasses anything Taskmaster can mimic, as he must have some form of super-strength to makes them cause such damage.  Perhaps Deadpool could have won the fight, but I don't think it made much sense that Bullseye didn't use many trick arrows, and no guns, cards, or anything like that.   
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@Fresh03 said:
"@box turtle: Reading your review I'm not sure you realize that Deadpool is immortal, he was cursed by Thanos to never die, he's been shown alive several thousand years in the future due to this.  So no matter what Bullseye throws at him Deadpool will eventually come back from it, example:  even if he had managed to run DP through that meat grinder in the previous issue DP's healing factor and immortality would have him inevitably coming back from it. Deadpool also has superhumanly enhanced strength, speed, and agility due to his healing factor, on top of insanely quick healing, allowing his muscles to recover almost instantly from feats of strength he pulls, imagine a weight lifter, gymnast, sprinter, or marathon runner who didn't have to wait for their body to recover to perform those feats again.  Not to mention that Deadpool is one of the most feared hand to hand combatants in the MU, if he can take down Taskmaster singlehandedly Bullseye doesn't have much of a chance.  Bullseye is just a normal human, granted he now has some adamantium grafted to some of his bones which gives him some added super durability, with an instinctual grasp on accuracy of projectiles, it's been said more than once during Dark Reign that he's enjoying being Hawkeye allot more than he probably should be, hence the bow and arrows, which I thought was a nice catch on Way's part.  Yeah, Bullseye is a bad mf'er but in a knockdown drag out fight between these two like was shown in this arc/issue DP has advantages that I just can't see Bullseye being over to over come, Bullseye can hit him over and over and over again but DP only has to connect once, in my opinion anyway. I loved this arc and it's take on the twisted friendship Bullseye and Deadpool share, they've almost always been portrayed this way, was very well done, granted there were some flaws, almost every book has them, but I really dug this arc and I thought the conclusion was well done and left the book open for more from both of these guys later on. "

Oh, and when did Deadpool take down Taskmaster?  That makes NOOOOO sense.  If your talking about "Magnum Opus," he didn't actually defeat him. 
Posted by box turtle
@Fresh03 said:
"@box turtle: Reading your review I'm not sure you realize that Deadpool is immortal, he was cursed by Thanos to never die, he's been shown alive several thousand years in the future due to this.  So no matter what Bullseye throws at him Deadpool will eventually come back from it, example:  even if he had managed to run DP through that meat grinder in the previous issue DP's healing factor and immortality would have him inevitably coming back from it. Deadpool also has superhumanly enhanced strength, speed, and agility due to his healing factor, on top of insanely quick healing, allowing his muscles to recover almost instantly from feats of strength he pulls, imagine a weight lifter, gymnast, sprinter, or marathon runner who didn't have to wait for their body to recover to perform those feats again.  Not to mention that Deadpool is one of the most feared hand to hand combatants in the MU, if he can take down Taskmaster singlehandedly Bullseye doesn't have much of a chance.  Bullseye is just a normal human, granted he now has some adamantium grafted to some of his bones which gives him some added super durability, with an instinctual grasp on accuracy of projectiles, it's been said more than once during Dark Reign that he's enjoying being Hawkeye allot more than he probably should be, hence the bow and arrows, which I thought was a nice catch on Way's part.  Yeah, Bullseye is a bad mf'er but in a knockdown drag out fight between these two like was shown in this arc/issue DP has advantages that I just can't see Bullseye being over to over come, Bullseye can hit him over and over and over again but DP only has to connect once, in my opinion anyway. I loved this arc and it's take on the twisted friendship Bullseye and Deadpool share, they've almost always been portrayed this way, was very well done, granted there were some flaws, almost every book has them, but I really dug this arc and I thought the conclusion was well done and left the book open for more from both of these guys later on. "

Yes, Deadpool was shown thousands of years into the future (1500 I think).  However, if you don't recall, he died in that comic.  And he isn't immortal.  If his head is seperated from his body for an extended length of time he is dead.   
Deadpool has moderate super strength and agility, but not as much as Daredevil, who Bullseye does better fighting than Deadpool.   
Also, Bullseye doesn't neccessarily have to kill Deadpool, he just has to take him down and then finish him off.  To make my point, I will bring up a scene in this comic, but please take note of this SPOILER WARNING! 
 
Bullsye plans an ambush for Deadpool and waits with a rocket launcher.  Deadpool drives up, and Bullsye shoots a rocket at him.  Deadpool somehow manages to spin the truck around so that it flies threw the two windows.  Ridiculous.   
Next, the truck lands on Bullseye's legs.  Painful, yes, but Bullseye still could launch a bunch of cards or fire a gun.  He doesn't get ready before Deadpool has a gun to his head.  This means that Deadpool had time to get out of the car and walk to him.  Bullseye is far more agile than that.   
 
SPOILER OVER 
 
I'm not saying this was the work arc ever, it just was a little far-fetched.      
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i love wolverine origins.
Posted by box turtle
@Abnormally Warm Guy:
Oh, one more thing, I'd say Bullseye actually does have a power because it takes some form of superhuman strength and dexterity in his finger tips to pull off all those stunts (such as killing someone with a card which is really just cardboard).    
Posted by box turtle
@Abnormally Warm Guy said:
"I throughly enjoyed this arc.  And Bullseye shot tons of arrows. And Deadpool's healing factor outweighs Bullseyes' accuracy (which is technically a "power" it's a skill a very very perfected skill).  But Way's writing style is flawed (though I have to admit issue 15 was AMAZING). "

Yeah, Bullseye shot tons of arrows, but he never threw a throwing star or playing card or pencil or paper clip like he normally does.  I mean, in the time it takes to fire one arrow Bullseye could have thrown two dozen cards.   
I agree that Way's writing style was flawed (even though he is one of my favorite writers of all time, this isn't his best).
Posted by box turtle

cool.  want to read the series now.  great review.
Posted by box turtle
@Mar-Vell, Cosmic Badass said:
"OK you really need to be a little less harsh it was a good end to a story-ark and it was well written and well illustrated. Your review was unprofessional and gave no reason not to read. For anyone who reads this review do not let it stop you from reading this issue, It was one of the better Deadpool fight scenes or fight finishes "

I disagree.
Posted by box turtle

Yup, excellent book.
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