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#1 Posted by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluefox170 said:

@captainmarvel4ever said:

@bluefox170 said:

@captainmarvel4ever said:

@micah: That's not really what I want from this series, I want this series to get the character back on track. Make him the sick twisted guy who wants to make his own army, and try to erase the Titans. Sinestro's new series is doing a great job of being entertaining, showing how twisted he is, while still connecting to the other lantern series, and that's what I want from this book.

I think DC is just beginning to realize they're sitting on a gold mine with Slade. I believe he's a great character if not one of the best these days. There is so much untapped potential in the character beyond hunting children or getting his ass kicked 20 different ways by Batmans pre teen protege and his best bros. Daniel is going to pin Slade up against threats that rival Darkseid and bring the mercenary to the forefront of some of the biggest names around. That sounds quite on track to me. The Terminator is big league. So maybe he isn't going to try to manipulate teenagers for the 78th time and sink into the same old routine and obscurity once again. I think given time the character is going to go so much further than he already has in the past couple of years. Which is an impressively long way.

While a characters roots are important and should never be forgotten, I think the child play should be left in the past. Sure cross paths with the Titans here and there but never make it all that slade is about. Just my opinion.

If that's how you see him then you don't truly know Deathstroke.

On the contrary. I'm just not clinging to the past. Slade hasn't had a serious reason to go after kids for a long time. Especially in the new 52. The Titans didn't kill Grant. Slade did. Rivalries are born, and rivalries end.

See Deathstroke and the Titans.

See Deathstroke and Nightwing

See Deathstroke and Green Arrow

All just a part of the chain that has brought Slade to who he is today.

Deathstroke is no longer the Antagonist monster in the closet from the 80's. He's a protagonist, with his own life, his own missions, and he can fight it out with the best of them.

In this day in age. THIS decade. Anchoring him to where he was in the beginning is only embarrassing to the character. Some people STILL won't let the character live down how he "can't even beat a group of kids" even though he has put plenty to the blade in recent years. It's been done to death and it's just so dated.

I say let him be the worlds deadliest assassin, "Deathstroke the Terminator". Not forever shackled to "Deathstroke the tactfully frustrated father."

It all boils down to story progression.

Look at where Deadpool is today. In his inception he hunted down the new mutants. Is he still doing that? Not so much. He's all over the place.

Just because I don't think a character should be doing what he was doing 34 years ago doesn't mean I don't know a character.

He's not meant to be a protagonist, he's only really interesting as a foil for the Titans. Also, this is comics, the whole point is legacy, if anchoring characters to their roots was embarrassing, then there would be no point to reading comics. Also I don't like how you call the Titans "Kids" in such a disrespectful way, especially since they have had some of the greatest comics of all time, and have been one of the greatest teams in all of comics.

That may be how you find him interesting and you may think he shouldn't be a protagonist. I understand that. It doesn't change what is though. And what is just so happens to be Deathstroke as the protagonist in his own book without Titans.

I'm not being disrespectful. The Titans are kids. One of the greatest teams of all time or not.

#2 Posted by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluefox170 said:

@captainmarvel4ever said:

@micah: That's not really what I want from this series, I want this series to get the character back on track. Make him the sick twisted guy who wants to make his own army, and try to erase the Titans. Sinestro's new series is doing a great job of being entertaining, showing how twisted he is, while still connecting to the other lantern series, and that's what I want from this book.

I think DC is just beginning to realize they're sitting on a gold mine with Slade. I believe he's a great character if not one of the best these days. There is so much untapped potential in the character beyond hunting children or getting his ass kicked 20 different ways by Batmans pre teen protege and his best bros. Daniel is going to pin Slade up against threats that rival Darkseid and bring the mercenary to the forefront of some of the biggest names around. That sounds quite on track to me. The Terminator is big league. So maybe he isn't going to try to manipulate teenagers for the 78th time and sink into the same old routine and obscurity once again. I think given time the character is going to go so much further than he already has in the past couple of years. Which is an impressively long way.

While a characters roots are important and should never be forgotten, I think the child play should be left in the past. Sure cross paths with the Titans here and there but never make it all that slade is about. Just my opinion.

If that's how you see him then you don't truly know Deathstroke.

On the contrary. I'm just not clinging to the past. Slade hasn't had a serious reason to go after kids for a long time. Especially in the new 52. The Titans didn't kill Grant. Slade did. Rivalries are born, and rivalries end.

See Deathstroke and the Titans.

See Deathstroke and Nightwing

See Deathstroke and Green Arrow

All just a part of the chain that has brought Slade to who he is today.

Deathstroke is no longer the Antagonist monster in the closet from the 80's. He's a protagonist, with his own life, his own missions, and he can fight it out with the best of them.

In this day in age. THIS decade. Anchoring him to where he was in the beginning is only embarrassing to the character. Some people STILL won't let the character live down how he "can't even beat a group of kids" even though he has put plenty to the blade in recent years. It's been done to death and it's just so dated.

I say let him be the worlds deadliest assassin, "Deathstroke the Terminator". Not forever shackled to "Deathstroke the tactfully frustrated father."

It all boils down to story progression.

Look at where Deadpool is today. In his inception he hunted down the new mutants. Is he still doing that? Not so much. He's all over the place.

Just because I don't think a character should be doing what he was doing 34 years ago doesn't mean I don't know a character.

#3 Edited by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah: That's not really what I want from this series, I want this series to get the character back on track. Make him the sick twisted guy who wants to make his own army, and try to erase the Titans. Sinestro's new series is doing a great job of being entertaining, showing how twisted he is, while still connecting to the other lantern series, and that's what I want from this book.

I think DC is just beginning to realize they're sitting on a gold mine with Slade. I believe he's a great character if not one of the best these days. There is so much untapped potential in the character beyond hunting children or getting his ass kicked 20 different ways by Batmans pre teen protege and his best bros. Daniel is going to pin Slade up against threats that rival Darkseid and bring the mercenary to the forefront of some of the biggest names around. That sounds quite on track to me. The Terminator is big league. So maybe he isn't going to try to manipulate teenagers for the 78th time and sink into the same old routine and obscurity once again. I think given time the character is going to go so much further than he already has in the past couple of years. Which is an impressively long way.

While a characters roots are important and should never be forgotten, I think the child play should be left in the past. Sure cross paths with the Titans here and there but never make it all that slade is about. Just my opinion.

#4 Edited by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

It is never actually explained how Deathstroke obtained the Nth metal infused armor.

There has never been any mention of his children possessing Nth metal armor.

Wether Tony Daniel will acknowledge what the armor is made of in his run is yet to be seen.

I feel the same. I like Daniels idea of Slade bringing different gear to different missions. I don't doubt we'll see the return of the bo staff at some point.

#5 Posted by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

Very excited for this. It's possibly the best a Deathstroke book has ever looked and Daniel sounds like he knows what he's doing with this story. Come on Oct 22nd.

#6 Edited by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

All of these are great options though I think the most important ingredient that we'll need at this point is a compelling plot. We already know Tony Daniels is going to deliver on the eye candy and now we just need a story that will keep us on the edge of our seats. Deathstroke needs obstacles to overcome all while showcasing his tactical prowess. We need to see Slade thinking ahead of his enemies and surprising the audience with the tricks up his sleeves.

Aside from that he needs a compelling antagonist. The closest we came to Deathstroke having a recurring enemy in the previous run was the mercenary "Legacy" who continued to resurface due to particular reasons I won't spoil. Pin Slade up against someone people will remember, someone that will make Slade a better mercenary for the experience of shedding their blood.

Have him interact with more heroes and villains. The possibilities are endless when you have such a gray character like Slade.

Give him a fair sized interesting supporting cast. It can be like Green Arrow's 2 or 3 people behind the scenes. I think that was one of the main things the previous run suffered from. Deathstroke was always on his own and occasionally interacted with Peabody who dropped off the face of the earth entirely once Liefeld and Jordan stepped up to the plate. We need Slade to bounce off of someone and not clutter the pages with thought boxes.

Lastly, we need to get away from entire arcs finishing with "It was Slade's kid A,B, or C the whole time! You know, because they hate him!"

#7 Posted by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

@viin said:

he needs a good origin story on how he lost his eye and gains his enhanced abilities...there are so many different stories.

I kind of like how they never explained how he lost his eye. I think they showed just leave it a mystery......

They have actually. Pre-52 his wife shot him in the eye. New 52 his eye was shot by a nameless Korean soldier. Thanks Liefeld.

#8 Posted by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

@redwingx:

i agree he is amuderic assasin With no life except killling

1. Amuderic?

2. You've never read one volume of Deathstroke if you don't know just how rich with history his personal life is. His story just doesn't happen to be told time and again with slightly different perspectives like certain characters to the point where it's ingrained into the public's psyche.

#9 Edited by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwalser3 said:

Jesus Comicvine. I like Slade too, but come on.

Slade is the character of the month. He's going to be featured prominently throughout July. Same as Moon Knight I believe last month. Don't know how this is flying over people's head.

#10 Posted by Bluefox170 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm guessing Deathstroke won't be on Suicide Squad for long then?

Also I really like the new armor design, it looks like a mix of the Pre-52 Promethium armor and the New 52 Nth metal, also I'm glad that the giant shoulder pads seem to be gone.

Anyways here's hoping Daniel's writing will be as good as his art.

It'll probably be just like Harley Quinn. Part of the Squad and his own on-going.