Blue Son

1. Scans speak on important debates, I have a life out of the vine but to make a point you need the scan unless its obvious like superman vs someone under him

2. No it is not common sense, titles hardly mean anything.  Ares in Marvel is a god but can he stand up against Thor going all out even though both are gods? I mean Ares is god of waaaar, he sounds fierce and Thor is god of thunder but a storm isnt always fierce but does it mean Ares whips Thor? Hell no, Thor is leauges stronger than Ares that is a common fact in Marvel. Whether you are a god really doesnt mean much. Thor fought a pantheon of 10000 dark alien gods while thor is a single god, but guess what Thor redirected his attack and won the fight so 10000 gods should be stronger than 1 god by your logic  

Alot of that can be boiled down to PIS, WIS, or CIS.So hulk fights thor and he overpowers thor yet, why should hulk beat Thor when thor has broke planets, defeated pantheons of dark gods has thermo blast anti force blasts godblasts, transmutations and dimension dumping capabilities Because the writer is stupid and makes thor run with mjolnir swinging when he has plent of ways to get rid of the hulk. Superman doesnt instantly die from kryptonite but he has been exposed to it enough times he has built up a form of resistance same as magic so if a 70+ year old character is exposed to something alot it makes sense he should be a bit more resistance, Joker is immune to his own venom because he built up an immunity so why cant superman after all the times of being exposed to kryptonite have a bit more resistance?      

  by your logic if the madder he gets the stronger he gets why couldnt he whoop down on Zues? I mean i would be mad for getting punched in the face and getting tossed around like a piece of trash, so why didnt his strength get past zues? I mean he shouldve been getting mad and thats what hulk does is get mad get stronger and heal right? So by your logic he shouldve been able to beat zeus. 

Superman tanks nuclear explosions yet a punch a from wonderwoman can hurt him so does that mean Wonder Woman is stronger than a gamma bomb even tho the damage radius isnt the same? yes it does. So why cant someone of near superman level strength with flight speed that impresses superman who he himself is FTL, cant hurt the hulk with all that momentum going, again hulk is slow compared to the majority of his opponents Marvel writers will lower the speed of his opponents so he can tag them or they make the opponent stupid like i said in my previous post which i will so graciously repost so you understand. 

I wont bother addressing the crossovers as they are not canon.  
 
Hulk has to get mad, he has to keep getting madder but what is it gonna take anymore? he already lost his wife and recieved a giant gamma upgrade. If his strength should go up because people just pound him he shouldve beaten Zeus but he didnt.  
 
  Maxima should win due to strength and speed and flight     as hulk cannot catch her.     

 
 
By that argument does that mean that the Marvel versus DC fight when Superman knocked out the Professor Hulk doesn't count?  Other Marvel and DC Crossover fights don't count as well? 
 
Like a stated above Zeus is on a WHOLE different level of power I would NEVER say that the Hulk could or should have beaten Zeus, and the fight with Silver Surfer was before he got his  WWH upgrade and before he became the World Breaker. 
 
My argument stands on the fact that Maxima though being on the level of Supergirl has limits, getting knocked out by a mere explosion during the Doomsday fight, dying because she was blown up in her ship by Brainac's War World proved those limits. The Hulk before his World Breaker incarnation as taken far worst abuse and survived which I have submitted endless scans to prove. Vector burnt him down to his muscles yet he was able to knock him out and then regrow his skin in minutes, Galactus blasted him with a Comsic Force blast during Secret War #9 which only staggered, something that would destroy most people, he threw Fin Fang Foom to the moon all a testament to his strength and power...all of this was before his WB upgrade...Maxima will take the fight to him, but as the fight goes on she's going to reach her limits and lose.  
 
That's my argument which gives Hulk the win.

@Death Certificate:  

@TheCrusader: 

" I'd just like to point out how Maxima knocked herself out by pulling a electric pole out of the ground and sparking an explosion during Death of Superman. Granted, it was an extremely low feat. "

 
2) Quote what Static Shock said: 

She flew circles around Superman, who was impressed by her speed. He stated that she was certainly strong and fast, and his fight with Maxima reminded him of his first fight with Matrix (a version of Supergirl with all of Superman's kryptonian powers).  

 Did it ever occur to you that the reason Gladiator stood there while the hulk slowly lumbered over and grabbed him was because the writers chose to write something that was tactically horrendous on Gladiators part? He stood there because the writers wanted the hulk to win and knew there was no way for him to without making Gladiator stand still for the hulk and/or placing a nuclear reactor where gladiator landed. The difference between the ufc and comics is that the ufc is an actual match and is not written. A better analogy would have been a wwe match, which is scripted. He got caught because of poor and unimaginative writing. 
 
Destroying worlds is not a moral issue, it's a damage output issue.The hulk may be able to destroy a world, but it is going to take him a long time to do so as he is going to need to get very very angry and it will take him many thousands of blows to do so. 
 
Your point about superman and super-speed is irrelevent as it would have only took normal speed and flying out of hulks range at very slow speeds to achieve victory as the hulk was lumbering in slow motion. It was poor writing and a convenient placement of a nuclear power plant that lead to his downfall. 
 
You have simply lost all objectivity where the hulk is concerned, or you just enjoy arguing. It is a matter of writing and economics, that is the only reason the hulk hasn't been destroyed many times over. And Maxima would spank him, for sure.    

 
 
 
I'm sorry...where you there in the storyboard room when the writers put the comic book together? You have some type of spy camera in Marvel comics or something because arguing that the writers "wrote a bad story" as a poor excuse and shouldn't be on the boards...if I am correct the argument best used for arguing battles are FEATS...Hulk no matter HOW he did it defeated Gladiator not because the "writers wrote a bad story", if that's the argument YOU'RE going to push you might as well throw in every bad story DC and Image have produced putting characters that should have lost on top. He got caught because an ARROGENT Gladiator couldn't believe the Hulk could stand up to his eye beams, this was the first time these two fought he knew nothing about the Hulk other than him being a human... and I have already submitted proof of his arrogance...Eric Masterson a STAND IN for Thor with very little battle experience beat Gladiator within an inch of his life during the Kree/Shi'ar wars because Gladiator thought he was beneath him and underestimated him, Cannonball also defeated Gladiator because the Gladiator underestimated him and Cannonball was able to break his confidence.

 
The Gladiator has always been an arrogent bastard in Marvel comics he's suppose to be the mirror opposite of Superman when it comes to personalities, where as Superman is humble he is not.  

 
As far as the destroying worlds it is a MORAL ISSUE, Hulk is not going to destroy a world killing billions of lives he had already witnessed Sakaar and his wife destroyed in that way, and it's also obvious you didn't read World War Hulk because he wasn't using his fists, the sheer output of the energy from his body shook the entire planet, his mere steps almost destroyed the entire east coast, he asked Iron Man to stop him so he wouldn't destroy the world ie why he got the title the World Breaker, the Gladiator would destroy a world on command without hesitation...he said it at the TOP of the panel you posted.

And you're final comment is truly uncalled for, it seems to me you're getting frustrated because I have an answer to all of your arguments, you clearly either know nothing about the current Hulk, or you just don't like the character and thinks he's some muscle bound green steriod bum who doesn't deserve the hype people have given him...maybe you're some skinny guy who use to get beat up by some muscle guys like him (okay...that was a low blow, but fair payback). 
  
And what is my proof? That you continue to ignore canon...Hulk gets stronger when angered...so no matter how strong the Gladiator is, Hulk's continued anger and rage during a fight would increase his strength and abilities far beyond that of Gladiator's, and his World Breaker incarnation makes him the strongest mortal on the Earth in the Marvel Universe...and unless you plan on heading down to the Marvel main office with a shotgun and put it to the writers' heads you're not going to change that lore...Hulk is the Strongest there is...deal with it man....Maxima can't beat him.

@TheCrusader: 
 

Did it ever occur to you the reason  Gladiator stood there was because he couldn't believe that the Hulk was still actually standing and advancing even though a hole was being burnt through him down to his heart? Gladiator is an arrogant cuss who believes he's better than anyone, he probably kept firing and standing his ground because he couldn't believe a mere human such as the Hulk to take his full beams and still remain standing. One more thing...dictating what should have gone down in a fight doesn't make a win any less valid...how many times have you see a boxing match or for me a UFC fight, and we say a fighter should have used his jab more, or the other guy was wide open for a hook...he didn't do it and he didn't think about doing it. Chances are he stood his ground to show the Hulk he didn't fear him hoping he'd fall...and the Hulk didn't fall i.e. why he got caught.

And as far as destroying or almost destroying worlds, you should know by now that's a moral issue...Gladiator if ordered has no problems destroying worlds...while the Hulk even if he has the potential to destroy a world he's not going to do it, still doesn't mean he doesn't have the power to do it.  
 
One more thing...does Superman use his superspeed in every fight he's in? Does he use his heat beams in every fight he's in? No he doesn't. Yes it's in his arsenal but he still doesn't use it in every fight he's in. 

And the Hulk was not outmatched in his fight with Gladiator...as many times as I read it, it was a brutal fight between two superpowers. Gladiator hurt the Hulk, and the Hulk returned the beating. In the end it was the Gladiator underestimating the Hulk's power that lead to his downfall.
 
And again...if he couldn't put down that version of the Hulk there's no way he's going to take down the World Breaker...not happening.

 
Wonder Woman...once she gets around that shield Cap is done. He'll fight hard but she'll overpower him and take him out...or bed him...lol

@god_spawn: 
 

Yeah, but sentry was in a rage, when you're in a rage you're not thinking of finessing a fight, you're thinking of beating you're opponent down. He met the Hulk head on, so the Hulk met him head on. And as for your list, the only one who I see he probably shouldn't be tagging is the Silver Surfer.

Gladiator - Too over confident and full of himself...probably didn't think the Hulk powerful enough to hurt him much less beat him.

Thor - Not really that fast, and he basically pulls himself behind his hammer that's how he is able to fly

Sentry - As I stated above was in a rage, and as powerful as he is he's not a skilled fighter.

As seen here...he's not that fast, but he's face enough to catch a missle in mid-flight, that takes a certain amount of superhuman speed to do it.