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@mark_stephen: Using the lasso was her idea

Wasnt the maestro ruling 2099 last time we checked? Obviously another universe but man my head hurts

main issue I have here is, didnt the fantastic 4 just spend a year in space and the thing totally hated it? why on earth would he rush right on back out to space? It just screams of shoe-horning characters in to try an boost the sales of the franchise!

Also does no-one else think it may be ultimate tony stark that is iron man here? It would explain the old school look, the reason mentioned that they dont have finance as this tony wont have money and another way to be "all new"

im pretty sure ultimate tony stark left with the 616 heroes and hawkeye both left and stayed, you see him in the quinnjet and standing on the roof, no idea what is going on... Also I dont get why this is the only comic they remember pre secret wars, no explanation at all, It just seems good ol Bendis is writing whatever he wants, soon this guy retires the better

this story was so good early on but its just gone so over the top and out of control!

And i also refuse to believe that the avatar of red is the red lantern they were talking about way back in issue 13! Face it, it was going great then they got told to bring the end game with a new writer an its so convoluted and under developed it doesn't matter which is a shame as it was going so well

I don't understand people who think this fight is even close?

I get John is good an is a green lantern but the energy is not limited an its not as powerful as people claim otherwise they wouldn't get beaten around most weeks in the comics. If its the most powerful weapon in the universe then a lot of people are very overpowered. Its powerful in terms of what it can do not how hard it can hit its limited in only your imagination not in brute force.

Richard Rider has the ENTIRE nova force in this circumstance and has taken down gladiator a man who could probably beat superman. I just dont see John beating this. John couldn't beat Silver Surfer or Gladiator and Nova has gone toe to toe with an upgraded Silver Surfer. Granted he cant use the full nova force but he is far more powerful than John its one sided going by the facts.

Nova (non prime, inc worldmind) vs Green Lantern would be close and could go either way they are essentially mirrors of each other then

@mrnoital: World War Hulk IS world breaker, infact he is madder than during the events of Planet Hulk and he only stopped in WWH because he chose too, he was about to split the planet in half, lets see WW do that!

Also this speed difference is nonsense it wouldnt have a factor in this fight and neither would the lasso, all it would enable is WW to be pulled closer for a swift punch to the chops!

@shadowhuntr: not at this point in time it wasnt

im sorry anyone who says Wonder Woman here is dreaming and is just a bit of a fanboy.

Lets look objectively here, Regular Hulk can take on Superman, but World breaker Hulk can defeat anyone he is thrown up against, he is the angriest form of the Hulk, granted Wonder Woman is good, not taking that away, but this guy could actually tear the planet in half. His healing is based upon his anger also so thats better than ever.

I dont understand how Hulk is unarmed as in every picture as World breaker he has his armor and weapons and yet Wonder Woman has her lasso, seems a tad odd.

This is a Hulk with limitless strength, healing, faster than ever, Wonder Woman has a limit the World Breaker does not, simple as that.

You cant incapacitate a guy whos weaker form can hold up a mountain (secret wars) and look what he did to colossus, wolverine and black bolt in this form, plus he beat the sentry also.

@g_man: dont defend this garbage, Drax was destroyed and he popped back up fine, Starlord reappeared in his prime with no scars and a change of hair colour im sure Nova would've had his arm back. Face it this was terrible writing that spits in the face of any Nova fan, or as Bendis thinks, Richard Ryder, cant even spell the characters name he is writing about. Why bother investing in stories and characters if this is what they do to them