@Mbecks14 said:
So just because the Majority of comic book readers are horny men, all women must be sexy? That sounds fair. Don't get me wrong, I love a sexy Batgirl or a scantily clad Catwoman as much as the next guy. But Comics should not be pornographic. You can depict women as beautiful without having gravity defying, logic-lacking costumes just to reveal cleavage and skin (ala Starfire). Women can be just as beautiful dressed in a skin tight non revealing uniform that reduces the entire female gender down to nothing but a pretty show meant for male sexual appetite. I'm not saying Wonder Woman should button up or Black Canary should put on pants, but the over exaggeration of the sexuality is what bothers me. Especially now that the only 2 heavy women in the DCU are amongst the other perfectily bodied heroines of the DCU.
I'm sorry that my "soap box" defending treating women as more than sex objects is so infantile. I should just grow up and treat women like dolls.
I, like most non-feminist or meta men, like comics because of story and art. Since the dawn of time man has painted beautiful nudes and portraits of women. I like seeing Psylocke in all her nakedness. Not because I'm horny, just because I'm a man. I find it infantile when a "man" defends women (I see a man in your avi), when he can't possibly know exactly what or how seeing Starfire makes them feel. Even if a woman tells you they are offended. That's that one woman's opinion and the art is subjective. There aren't many amputees or people suffering from mental retardation, or little people represented in comics or mainstream commercials. Where's the outcry? The real truth is: we don't want to see that. I think you're soapboxing for women and if you are a man that I find pathetic. In terms of art, the way Starfire's red hair, nice curves and the purple uniform makes the page pop. Panels with her perfectly angled face and green eyes with a swirled ring of hair with her body flying through the air just looks great. It's not porn. It just looks cool. Comic books are all about art/aesthetics and story. Comics that aspire to reach perfection of those two elements sell more copies. That's just reality. You contradict yourself when you say sexy is good here, but not here. How many little girls look up to Wonder Woman? A lot. Yeah, she's not wearing much. But it's just like a male superhero with python biceps. It looks good on the page. Little boys put towels around their necks and pretend to be stronger and faster because of Superman, Batman, etc. These guys don't have on a whole lot either. Imagine them fighting crime with a beer belly. Did you ever think these super chicks are wearing revealing clothing because they are in "super" shape and want to show off their bodies? Most women with nice bodies do this in real life. This discussion is not really a real one to me. The New 52 writers are putting together complex plotlines and you're worried about replacing two fat chicks. Stop. I have nothing more to say to you sister...brother...whoever you may be.
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