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#1  Edited By Blacklightning13

@CitizenBane said:

Wildcat solos. Just ask Grundy.

Someone had to bring that up. It's become nearly compulsory for wildcat fights.

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#2  Edited By Blacklightning13

Mindless one. They match his strength at least. Are completely above him in durability. And can shoot powerful lasers.

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@beatboks1 said:

A no morals Alan Scott will stomp this. People really need to stop make battles with Alan in blood lust or no morals.

This could be WWhulk or World breaker and it wouldn't matter Considering a blood lusted Alan Scot (as he is in this battle) soloed in story a team comprising of Atom Smasher, Booster Gold, Captain Atom, Citizen Steel, Congorilla, Cyborg, Dr fate, Donna Troy, Dr Light, Fire, Hourman, Ibis, Ice, Jade, Jay Garrick, Jesse Quick, Kyle Raynor, Starman (Mikaal), Miss Martian, Mr Miracle, Obsidian, Power Girl, Red Tornado, Seb' Faust, Star Girl, Supergirl and several other street levelers . I mean the team he soloed while blood lusted had six energy manipulators at or near SS's normal level, two at SS's TP level, Two powerful mystics (one a sorcerer supreme level one not far behind), Seven who are at his physical strength/durability levels, six light (or near) speeders

When was this? Could you provide scans? Because that is absolutely amazing. That is a Superman or Thor level kind of feat.

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#4  Edited By Blacklightning13

Superman. He can use high speed (not blitzing) to upper cut hulk into space until he slowly drifts into the sun. But since there is not BFR he can follow along side him punching him thereby moving the Battle Field.

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#5  Edited By Blacklightning13

Nightwing followed by Batman. Then probably John Stewart (GL).

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#6  Edited By Blacklightning13

@tg1982 said:

@Blacklightning13 said:

The difference is in Cap they never state he has a huge knowledge at hand to hand. They just say he is good and has another couple of uknown martial arts. Then suddenly in fights he has showings that don't match his skill set.

Back in the sixties or seventies Cap states he's adept at EVERY form of H2H known to man since WW2.

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But this is a single showing from classic cap while in many newer comics he has said nothing of the such. also when did he learn these skills?

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#7  Edited By Blacklightning13

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@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: @tg1982:

The serum does make the mind better and it was even once stated that he can remember everything that has ever happened to him since he had the serum change him. But that still wouldn't make him have the kind of skill he has. Because he often shows techniques that his enemy's have never used.

Maybe it was supposed to be infered that he learned/mastered more styles while training off panel or something. there is also a scan that somewhat retcons the mastering only Judo, and Boxing during WW2. The only other thing I can think of is that they (writer, and editors) simply added it, has Batman always known 127 martial arts? No. As the years went on and the times changed writers and editors added these things to the characters.

The difference is in Cap they never state he has a huge knowledge at hand to hand. They just say he is good and has another couple of uknown martial arts. Then suddenly in fights he has showings that don't match his skill set.

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#8  Edited By Blacklightning13

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia: @tg1982:

The serum does make the mind better and it was even once stated that he can remember everything that has ever happened to him since he had the serum change him. But that still wouldn't make him have the kind of skill he has. Because he often shows techniques that his enemy's have never used.

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@CitizenBane said:

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

Captain America has proven faster, stronger, more durable, and more skilled.

He wins unless Batman has prep.

His advantages in strength and speed are slight, the suit covers the durability gap, and he is certainly not more skilled.

I'd say a bit more then slight but I agree with the rest.

What I don't understand is how Captain America got so skilled at hand to hand. He was meant to be trained (when the gave him the serum) to master level in Ju-Do, all terrain acrobatics, western boxing, kick bozing and he has apparently learnt several other martial arts. Although as far as I konw it never specifies. Sure he has picked up many different techniques as well and has fought many battles. I still don't think he is on the level he is portrayed on.

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#10  Edited By Blacklightning13

@gingerpenny said:

Same setting in the fallout ruins of NYC, Cap gets his shield nothing else and 2 terminators are unarmed and 1 has a chain-gun. It is a fight to the death. Keep in these are very durable human killing cyborgs and to not underestimate them. Same goes for Cap he is a Super Soldier, he is not as durable a metal either, but has a indestructible shield. He is mostly equal in strength (my opinion) but has more speed than to terminators. Last T-800s have infrared vision so Caps option to run and hide is very unlikely. I hope this post is much better and sorry about the horrible one from yesterday.

I'd say T-800 have a edge hear definately.

Captain America takes this.