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#1 Edited by blacharrt (1567 posts) - - Show Bio

@inconvenient_truth said:

@blacharrt: no cosmic powers. says it in the OP dude.

you stated in the OP "no interference from Cosmic Entities", not cosmic power leveled earth heroes, there is a difference. Cosmic Entities would be Galactus, Ego, Beyonder, and other Abstracts. Maybe you should change the wording so that it's cosmic level earth heroes too.

Because if that's the case a lot of Earth's heros can't fight in this match.

#2 Edited by blacharrt (1567 posts) - - Show Bio

@inconvenient_truth said:
@ghostrider2 said:

@inconvenient_truth: well, GR would kill a clone at a time then move to another, and the clones can't do a damn thing.

oh good lord. for the 5th time on this thread. theyre blitzing. theres 100 bloodlusted supermen blitzing. probably traveling at5,208,000 miles per second since that is what the speed comes out to when he fought AND flew at the same time vs WW. fought while flyingand went to the sun and back in under 2 minutes. thats 28 times ftl. bring up people that have that type of reaction speed. please read the OP

It takes 8 minutes for light from the sun to reach the earth. 16 minutes here and back therefore the reverse is the same. They were only going 8 times faster than light for that time to work. Also, GR is invulnerable unless he's attacked by divine weapons/magic. The Supermen can blitz all they want buy GR isn't going down to their punches. Penance stare and their done.

This^, also Man-thing wouldn't be affected by their punches either, and they could be burnt to death on contact with him.

#3 Posted by blacharrt (1567 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghostrider2: I never mentioned Silver Surfer

@ghostrider2 said:
@blacharrt said:

Legion, Scarlet Witch, Darwin, Magik, Franklin Richards, easily have this.

Magik's Can not only summon demons hordes but create magical barrier that they can't escape, and through reality warping can take away their powers. Teledismemberment.

Legion, Franklin and Scarlet Witch should be able to beat Superman easily. Even without direct magic, or reality warping. There is Time manipulation, High end matter and energy manipulation, and Probability manipulation. Darwin could literally kill them with a touch, as a Death God.

Earth based cosmic beings, Nova, Quasar, Starbrand, Captain Universe, Smasher, Nightshade, Hyperion (alternate earth's still count as earth), Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel, Jean Grey Phoenix

For $hitz and Giggles i would send the Thunderbolt team first. Man-thing, could possibly solo, Juggernaut, Moonstone, Ghost roster. Not red hulk roster.

Even if SS doesn't count Superman has nothing on GR or Juggernaut.However if SS count this is an easy win...

earth based heroes ONLY. its right up there in the OP guys. I dont think you all are reading the OP. the clones are bloodlusted. thanks for that big list of people and their abilities but there are 100 of them...and theyre bloodlusted. theyre fast as hell. please read the op to avoid wasting time. just name the really fast magic useres or really fast reality warpers or reallly fast anybody for that matter.

I did read the OP, which is why i named people who have cosmic level powers who are earth based. Quasar, Nova besides being in space spent a great deal of time and adventures on Earth, they are earthling and still used their powers there. Along with the current captain Marvel, Starbrand, and Nightshade. Current Captain marvel is an earthling, Starbrand got his powers as a college student and most of his introductions and fight feats took place on Earth, nightshade wasn't born on earth but Mars, but lived on earth and got his powers there before he was locked up. Captain Marvell, Either (Monica or Genis) were both earthlings but have cosmic level power, Dr, Strange has fought abstracts, but is based in NYC and fights all kinds of low lever people, Jean Grey spent majority of her time as the phoenix on Earth... Nova if you read Heralds was a waitress from Earth who received the powers of Nova, the dead former Herald of Galactus. Grant it i'll take Nova out, how ever the rest of them still had been based on earth. And there is a reason i didn't list people Like Silver Surfer, Firelord, Gamora, Gladiator... etc. they are not based out of Earth at all and doesn't fit the description of an earth based hero.

Legion can manipulate time, and freeze it completely and pick and choose who he wants to be able to move and not. Superman has no counter for that at all. Superman couldn't KO him if he wanted to, simply another personality would take Legion over and continue fighting if anything it makes Legion More unpredictable. Franklin can manipulate universes and planet which is energy manipulation on a higher scale than super could ever reach normally unless he became 1 million. Scarlet Witch Hex Bolt's her mutant power would change the odds in her favor, also since they can't be hit directly by magics, she could change the environment or the radiation of the sun. Her Magical power can buff her to the point where none of the supermen could even hurt her.

#5 Edited by blacharrt (1567 posts) - - Show Bio

Legion, Scarlet Witch, Darwin, Magik, Franklin Richards, easily have this.

Magik's Can not only summon demons hordes but create magical barrier that they can't escape, and through reality warping can take away their powers. mass-Teledismemberment.

Legion, Franklin and Scarlet Witch should be able to beat Superman easily. Even without direct magic, or reality warping. There is Time manipulation, High end matter and energy manipulation, and Probability manipulation. Darwin could literally kill them with a touch, as a Death God.

Earth based cosmic beings, Nova, Quasar, Starbrand, Captain Universe, Smasher, Nightshade, Hyperion (alternate earth's still count as earth), Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel, Jean Grey Phoenix

For $hitz and Giggles i would send the Thunderbolt team first. Man-thing, could possibly solo, Juggernaut, Moonstone, Ghost roster. Not red hulk roster.

Oh let's not forget the Ghost Riders....

#6 Edited by blacharrt (1567 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton: It's not real life physic but comic book pseudo physics, comics acknowledge the various speeds and how to navigate through them some of which is sound, mach speeds and light speed etc. If they didn't acknowledge the fact that sounds travels at no only certain speeds but also frequencies a lot of comic book heroes and villain who use sound as powers or weapons would be utterly useless.

@inconvenient_truth said:

@blacharrt: you are correct that CM has some power from olympian gods but your mistake is that you think theyre marvels olympian gods, theyre not, theyre DC's more powerful olympian gods. Superman has stated that he considers CM as an equal but even if you dont take his own words for fact, he still is on that level and that level is too strong in my opinion for base wwh. all of that doesnt even matter because he's faster than Superman as the scan shows and wwh would never touch CM if CM isnt jobbing

They haven't shown to be more powerful than Marvel, that's an incorrect assertion. The Only god that was shown to really be more powerful than their marvel counterpart is Ares, and that's Because of Imperiex's war, and was stated as such. DC Hercules hasn't shown more or better feats than Marvel Hercules, he isn't smarter either, but he is a rapist, Zeus or any of the other haven't shown to be stronger either.

#7 Posted by blacharrt (1567 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton: I find it very odd that you don't know it's common knowledge for the reason that the Hulk, Leaps and not runs.Or the fact that CM, no matter how strong he may be, couldn't possibly KO the Hulk. Captain Marvel, gets his power from the Olympian Gods, and Hulk has gone toe to toe with those very same gods and other pantheon gods. The Only one he had trouble with is a Skyfather Zeus. And when he fought Zeus he was actually being weakened in the process of the fight.

Hulk has tanked magical lighting, Supernova Charged Lighting, Living lighting with no problem even when thor was in WM mode. Captain Marvel's won't have any affect on him what so ever. Captain Marvel has the Strength of Hercules which the Hulk has stomped. Hercules (marvel) has shown equal stamina with Atlas by being able to Hold up the Heavens with no sign of fatigue at all. All the other Powers of Captain Marvel are useless. WWH tanked the magical powers of Not only SS strange, but ZomStrange. Whom is wayyy more powerful than Captain Marvel. He was never once in that series KO'ed by anyone. In every comparison to Superman, CM has always fallen short, he is not as fast, or as strong as superman, or as smart, It's a good thing superman holds back, and has no resistence to magic or it would be no contest between the two.

@inconvenient_truth said:

In this scan they are obviously not going faster than the speed of sound, if they were, they wouldn't be able to verbally communicate. Because sound only travels but so fast. Or it's WIS, and they are actually moving faster than that in which case this feat should be ignored because it doesn't make sense.

#8 Edited by blacharrt (1567 posts) - - Show Bio
@WillPayton said:

What if instead of Alan Scott I put in Hal Jordan?

So:

Marvel: Quasar, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Nova Prime, Silver Surfer, Ronan

DC: Superman, Captain Atom, Martian Manhunter, Hal Jordan, Captain Marvel, Orion

Please don't listen to the Dc circle jerkers, "Superman Level" should be an indication they don't actually have an argument for DC to win.  You have a really good match up.
Gladiator v Superman - If Gladiator is at full confidence and get stay there, this bout would be a good one where you would have to go on feats and stats to actually argue a win
Captain Atom v Silver surfer - I'd say silver surfer would stomp him His abilities are far to vast, and his Energy manipulation Trumps Atoms
BRB v. Captain Marvel - I think Captain Marvel could eventually pull a win out of this, but again this would be a long hard fought battle, but BRB Seems physically stronger and has a wider of array of magic at his fingers so realy this could go either way.
Green Lantern v. Quasar - also a good match up but Quasar i think would come out on Top and could steal his energy away from him.
Nova Prime v MM - Nova would win this, the World Mind give him telepathic immunity, his reaction is Faster, and his Showing against Annihilus shows he can deal with someone with MM's Durability, also the Worldmind can compensate for intangibility as well.  MM would be completely outmatched.
Ronan v Orion - Now i can't really say i know too much about either of these character, neither ever interested me enough too look further into them. So basing this on what little i know about them, I'd think Orion would win, but Ronan would give him a tough fight with his matter manipulation.
 
so first fight could go either way, second SS, Third could go Either way (but i'll say Captain Marvel just so slightly), but epic battle, fourth Quasar, fifth Nova Prime, Sixth Orion.
 
So i think people are just being lazy if they are saying that the match up made would be a clear win for either side.  All of it is very debatable.
#9 Posted by blacharrt (1567 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charmix: Morbius has a speed of 3, which his Superhuman up to 700mph. I'm not sure if that's with flight or running speed. But All vampires in marvel aren't the same it would depend on how old they are, if they are meta, etc etc etc. Several vampires are in a class of their own. And Morbius is a vampire but isn't... so i don't honestly know what to tell you.

As Far as WBN, Kale, i'm sure has a good knowledge of him and how his powers work, this is a Random encounter i believe and it's highly doubtful she would think of that on the fly. I think Zatanna would be busy with Hellstrom or Jennifer to pay attention to the Werewolf.

I agree in this fight Constantine doesn't have his prep so he's not as much of a threat here, neither is Xanadu. I think Xanadu would be the first to be caught on fire honestly, or ripped apart.

#10 Posted by blacharrt (1567 posts) - - Show Bio

This fight doesn't make too much Sense, all you really need is Hulk. Before the Boost Colossus had both his Arms broken by the Hulk (Mean Green). Hulk in the End proved to be Stronger and Smarter than Both Skaar, and Rulk. Juggernaut at full power could barely even Edge WWH, and he wasn't even WorldBreaker at the time, just slightly annoyed at all the mutants and juggernaut throwing themselves between him and Charles.

To Put it simply, Colossus with the Juggs boost would have a hard ass time with WWH, and if he was WorldBreaker this Fight would be over quickly. Skaar himself has proven that he can Stop the whole Unstoppable spell with his Old Power. Rulk as always is useless without the Loeb Force.

Colossunaut gets stopped and Stomped.