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@Storm Calling: WHAT HAPPENED WHEN EMMA FROST MET STORM THE FIRST TIME EVER? WAS IT PSYCHIC ASSAULT? NO. IT WAS A PSYCHIC PROBE. JUST A SIMPLE MIND SCAN. SO MUCH FOR PSY BLOCKS

@VictoriaGrey_2010: well Emma survived against phoenix & even subdued her once. She also held a portion of the phoenix force. did raver hold i planet/universe destroying deity? no. trigon is not a deity. his is a fat, ugly, devil who thinks he rules the world.

did i mention Emma beat professor X

@Elemental said:

She does have emotion in diamond form. She was crying when Scott was very injured in Astonishing X-Men #22. Raven, reborn, can now project emotion and use emotion as an offensive weapon. Raven's demonic connections are back. Raven can absorb Emma into her soul-self and send her someone not nice and pretty. Emma had major issues back when she was a teenager and young woman. Raven can pull that out and make Emma relive her nightmares from a outside POV like Jean did in New X-Men #139. But maybe I'm wrong. Emma has a good chance of winning but has never faced the devil's daughter or demon empowered people before.

im sorry but that was just the writer messing around. ask Matt fraction, Stan lee, any other bloody writer for all i care. she is emotionless & cant be touched by telepathic probes whilst diamond. i like raven(ish) but she isn't the most powerful person in the universe. Even if raven could pinpoint Emma's diamond flaw, emma couuld just defend her flaw with her hand so nothing contacts it. oh & to smash emmas diamond form, she needs to be hit with a diamond bullet.

& just to even things up a bit... No trigon, no cerebra or cerebro

@LegendaryKYJ said:

Elemental says:

"Raven can beat Emma."

It's possible but highly unlikely. Emma doesn't take chances, it's not unlike her to be inside her opponents head before they know it.

Exactly. Emma isn't above mind control just so someone will give her the sky remote or get her way to first class tickets for free.

Emma will do it because she can, not because she has to. she likes to know who shes against.

Elektra has immunity to psychic attacks & probes & can throw sai & shuriken with perfect accuracy. she can read peoples body language & induce fear. she knows ninjutsu, jujitsu, & many other martial arts. she is also proficient with bo staff, Japanese longbow, nunchuku, katana swords & other Okinawan kobudo.

Psylocke as a powerful telepath who can create a psychic blade which will damage even wolverine with her blade. she also has limited telekinesis. she can use Katana swords, shuriken & a few other weapons.

Both of them are great gymnasts & acrobats & are good enough to get into the hand.

I like both Psylocke & Elektra so its a non-biased vote but im going to have to say Elektra would win.

Emma could block her diamond flaw so it couldn't shatter.

@AdolfHitler said:

I actually believe Psylocke will get this. Not only is her telepathy above Professor X's but also the Moondragon's.

moondragon. really? she is rather week if compared to even that howard duck guy.

@Vance Astro said:

Spider-Man vs. Emma Frost is only fair with variables.If you give or take her diamond form it's a curbstomp for either.If she can use her telepathy she wins.If she can't she doesn't.There isn't really anything to debate about.She's human on all levels accept strength and Diamond form.She won't be able to do anything against him.

agreed

@Morpheus_ said:

@Matezoide said:

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @Matezoide said:

" wait,she can use both powers? Spidey loses then,he haves little defence against telepaths and they are going to be easly overcome by Emma's exceptional's mental powers "

And the fact that he can't hurt a diamond. "

meh,i think he would take out Emma,when she is diamond she is no stronger or more durable or faster than Rhino besides,i dont think diamonds are that hard,i so no reason to believe Spider-Man cant hurt her but lets not start this,i remember the last time we talked about Emma's diamond power,you said she is more durable than Namor,so this isnt going anywhere "

Theoretically, he could focus his spider sense in order to find a weak spot, and shutter her. But it would be unnecessary, since Emma could/would never land a hit on him, and it is unlikely that she could dodge his webbing for an incapacitation victory.

I think he could do that but she wouldn't need to go diamond because she could send a psychic wave across New York to shut his mind down like a laptop or give him anmesia so he forgets all of his memories about himself & his powers or alternatively even send all of the thoughts of everyone in the street into spideys brain causing a mental breakdown & an extreme migrane.

you should also name which issue its from