@betatesthighlander1: Mantis has KOd those who were caught unaware or not fighting back, when she did (Champion) she lost. She also couldnt hit Dr Strange who said he learned a fighting skill (1) while Batman who has fought and bested telepaths knows more (120) and can adapt to each at the moment. Also has fought and bested some h2h characters above mantis (like karate kid).
I'm looking at some 616 Black Panther threads (him without the suit of course.) he doesn't seem like he would beat baki. Maybe I'm wrong. Can someone show me more feats?
@beta_stage: Zangief allegedly knows catch wrestling and Sambo, so hypothetically he should have some submissions he can pull out when grappling gets close. Practically speaking, he doesn't seem to ever pull anything out but slams, punches, slaps, and kicks. But those may be all he needs.
Gief can take a direct punch from Balrog and barely seems to notice it
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And Balrog can punch hard enough to flip a speeding car
Yujiro blitz stomps. He’s fast enough to dodge lightning and strong enough to tank anything short of a nuclear weapon. He can even crush coal in to diamonds considering he scales above Nomi. BoS kid gokus only feats are in the small building level range. And unlike Yujiro, bullets and blunt weapons can still consistently cause at least minor damage and draw blood. Hell even a stronger kid Goku was threatened by shotgun fire: https://external-preview.redd.it/wi9Fq9BgxKrh0mJGhZBY7BbZSlZdSGjguqpUGEg-wgo.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=7e193b11c4aac356365ceb5e59c64fe0c051e65d.
link is broken.
anyway, how does Yujrio "scale above nomi"? sure, he used Shaori to avoid taking the brunt of Nomi's kick, and he was faster than Nomi...but he did use Shaori when the kick was thrown, and he never showed superior strength during their battle.
Baki isn't DBZ, people's stats don't all go upward evenly.
also, when has Yujiro ever no-sold a bullet? he's been penetrated by darts from dart guns, and avoided plenty of bullets...but when has he ever taken one and shrugged it off?
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