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#1 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio

All depends on when the battle takes place. If it takes place before Mark and Cerellus willingly work together in the Dark Nebula persona than the win goes to the Xmen. Psylocke weakens Marks mental defenses so that cerrellus takes over and as a thankyou he lets the battle slide.
 
If after than DN. his TK lets him do feats near modern Superman level, his TP is way stronger than Psylocke, and his dark fire has destroyed all life on an overpopulated planet and forced the hordes of hell back there.

#2 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio
@bingbangboom said:
" @Supreme Marvel: @Rothschild: Can't we all agree the Phantom sucks? :D Build bridges based on that. "
Cant say I care much either way. I do however have to concede the character does sell internationally as a comic better than almost all other costumed or super heroes. I believe that he's only out sold by Archie, Mickey mouse and a couple of Manga titles. Can't speak to the accuracy but I remember reading in a magazine some time ago that the DVD sales of the movie were higher than those of the original Batman franchise (Keating, Kilma, Clooney).
#3 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio

As I said there are more than just Dr Fate stories to back up this concept. This theme has been held up through the tales and titles of other DCU mystics like Phantom Stranger, Spectre, John Constantine and others ( not to mention non mystics like Wonder Woman). In any case what your referring to is comparing the chicken and the egg. The Lords of Order and Chaos pre exist this and the last universe (therefore well before the source and the "god wave"). The retcon that made their war create life etc basically has the energy expended as a result of their war causing the "source" and therefore the "god wave" The Source of Kirby's fourth world was kept mostly out of coninuity until this retcon. The worship thing is also a chicken and the egg scenario (held up in WW's own reboot as the reason for the amozons existence), they had to existed to get worship first (coutesty in "most" cases because of theLOO/C) and then exist because of it after. This is also the reason why characters like Uncle Sam ( the "spirit" of Amercan freedom) and Sandman exist.
 
If you read more of the "mystic" books of the DCU this whole concept was created to allow contrary belief systems to co-exist within the DCU, all with Judea/christian/mulsim/budist (depicted ambiguiously as all)god sitting  at the top of the power tree.

#4 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio

What Beatboks said, Theres a lot more to back it up but that covers the basics.

#5 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio

This one really is a no brainer. Both Fate and Strange could solo on this one so the two of them together obliterate all comers. Throw in Faust and enchantress, team two will need at least that much power to have a prayer. Remember that Dr Fate basically has the powers of  (or can at least call on the powers of) all the Lords of Order. That means he has the abilities of all the "good" gods from Egyptian, Greek, Roman, and Norse mythology. He also wears tha amulet of Anubis around his neck which allows him to call on some of the powers of the evil gods too.  As far back as the 85 Immortal Dr Fate mini (admittedly more powerful than current but you did say most powerful or full potential) at the end of a battle with a Lord of Chaos the Earth is a complete wasteland (all life destroyed). Fate raises a hand his eye lights up whispers a spell and rebuilds everything as it was (al life on Earth returned as if nothing happened). That's pretty much his power level for most of the SA. the only times he was ever depicted as having power limits from 65 to COIE was when he faced teh Spectre ( so that there could be a reason for Spectre to be more powerful).
 
 
Strange at his most powerful has made Loki look like a tool and is also a world breaker.

#6 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:

@Shattered007 said:
" When did Daredevil beat Black Panther??    When did Green Arrow beat Deathstroke?? "
Neither of those things happen.Daredevil has only stalemated Black Panther and Green Arrow stabbed DS in the eye with an arrow after he laid waste to the JLA.IIRC he kicked Ollie's ass. "

Forgetting about the 3 times Ollie kicked Slades but in his solo book are we. The last one I believe was at a casino when some merc's going after a bounty on Slade got Ollie caught up in it because they thought he was slade.
#7 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio
@beatboks1 said:
He's lost to Cap 3 time had 2 stalemates (one where Cap had the upper hand) and one twice, He's stalemated IF twice and won once, and out of three outings against BP stalemated once and won twice. I'd agree with you on PIS if it didn't happen so often. Since the Miller years his radar has given him the ability to know others weak spots when facing superior opponents. Spidey has had the crap beaten out of him by Kingpin (as has DD, but Matt has also returned suit). Hell one of the wins against BP was also PIS. But as I said it's regularly done, regular enough to expect it to happen here. Consider teh fact that the times Matt has killed and bloodlusted are when someone close to him was killed. So with Foggy killed by Slade, he's givin' it everything and not looking to take him in for the law to deal with. And we are after all talking about the guy who's had his but handed to him on repeated occasions by Oliver Queen (who's littel more than a brawler). "
Which issue was the stalemate in ( I've got the other two)
#8 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio
@Shattered007 said:
" @bellach said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" Drakon is a better fighter than he is an advanced meta he wins "
Advanced metas have been unable to beat Matt in the past. "
None of them had superior h2h skills than Matt "
Really, he's beaten Iron Fist, Black Panther, Captain America  (all more than once I might add). All of these are pretty impressive H2H combatants. "
When did he beat Black Panther and Cap? "
Most of my older collection is at my folks place interstate so I couldn't specify exact issues. DD and Cap faced 5 times from memory in through the late 70's and 80's. Of these it's two wins a piece and one without a decision where Cap had the upper hand. The two DD BP fights were late 80's (maybe early 90's), one of which I'll admit was CIS, the other looked like it was going to be a stalemate with DD avoiding everything BP threw at him, until DD got a lucky blow taking it out. There's also the two (or maybe 3)  battles Matt has had with the Avengers. One of which there's already been a scan posted. the another was with Herc, iron Man, Cap, Giantman and Hulk (luckily Thor was absent) . During that one Matt threw a billy club at Tony's boot jet (sent him into a spin)as he somehow deflected cap's shield back at him. Dodged Pym's blow who brought part of a building down on him then. THrough all this Hulk stayed out saying something like "devilman hulk friend". I thought there was a third but maybe wrong because I cant remember any details. I may off on the details in this one two, memory hasn't been the best lately.
#9 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

1)  Of course Bullseye is going to miss from time to time, but his overall abilities have shown IMHO that he can and has tagged Daredevil.  The majority of writers get it correct...Nearly all of Bullseye's shots are accuracy, and Daredevil tends to block them.  The point is, though, Daredevil is only blocking an incoming attack from one accurate person.  Drakon mocked his foes as he did this against four.
There are plenty of times when Matt has dodged the weapons of several opponents at the same time. At least three I can think of when Bullseye was targeting him at the same time as a few other assassins hired by Kingpin to get the job done. TomAto tomato as far as I can see. The point I think the poster was trying to make is that if writers didn't let Bullseye occasionally tag Matt no one would read there battles. Most of these "tags" are out of the norm and usually involve Matt being written below par. Everyone seems to forget in every Vs DD thread that we're talkin' about someone who has beaten the combined might of the Avengers on a few outings. He's faced a couple dozen members of the Hand (any one of the hand would match Conner in skill). And beaten some of hte best H2H fighters in the MU who are also enhanced. In some of these battles he's won without his radar sense. remeber since the Miller re-boot his radar also lets him know the weak points of superior foes.
#10 Posted by bellach (11 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" Drakon is a better fighter than he is an advanced meta he wins "
Advanced metas have been unable to beat Matt in the past. "
None of them had superior h2h skills than Matt "
Really, he's beaten Iron Fist, Black Panther, Captain America  (all more than once I might add). All of these are pretty impressive H2H combatants.
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