people here need to use the words "IMO" regarding this topic, because the overall consensus regarding the quality of the sm/ww ongoing reviews highlight that a lot of people like the pairing. also that john kent superboy is from an alternate future, one that wont exist after the titans prevent it. it's mentioned right before the barr tor flashback in lobdells tt run(terrible by the way). beast boy also goes from red to green and is married to rose wilson in that future lol.

Looks more like “5 invented by haters of this pairing reasons why Superman/Wonder Woman relationship is doomed to failure” to me than anything else.

Also, office romances are frowned upon :P

Pair of Superman and Wonder Woman biggest mistake DC. This pair is not interesting to people. Comics and animation which shows their relationship awfully sold.

didn't stop clark and lois did it?

homer convention is homer convention.

a top 50 best selling comic with an average rating of 7.7 and being the #1 supes book in a reddit poll suggest a lot of people like the pairing, the distractors are just being more vocal like every vocal minority on the web.

At first I was against this, but now I really don't mind. We all know it won't last forever and that eventually Wonder Woman will be doing stuff with Steve Trevor again (afterall they did make Steve younger now. Wasn't he an old man in pre-New 52 and post-Crisis?) or being involved with Orion. Superman and Lois Lane were literally made for each other and everyone knows about Superman and Lois and loves the couple so they will be back too. I am really interested in seeing Superman and Wonder Woman's relationship after they break up. It will bring something interesting to the table for future DC stories.

@crazyscarecrow: I think that is the direction DC is going to go. But I don't want a hostile one.

@beautifultemptress: Wrong, actually they have TONS of chemistry, but people are quick to brush it off because they don't like change. They think it should be super powerful being with damsel in distress, because it apparently ground him, but he is perfectly capable of grounding himself. Lois and Clark is completely played out, it has been for years, and it's massively illogical.

@rdclip: If Supes did get with Lois, it'd be temporary, because DC knows that they'd be beating a dead horse, missing out on something fresh, and they don't fit right together as characters, especially when Lois was constantly the damsel in distress and became more of a burden. This is all without mentioning the cold hard truths of biology, plus their differences personality wise and emotionally. If they got together, it'd be disastrous and really take away from everyone involved. Lois would go back to being the damsel, Superman would be forced back into an old, played out relationship, and wonder woman would be treated like she wasn't good enough to be Superman's main love interest, which would be outright disrespect towards her. I say they should put Lois and Supes together, but only temporarily and show why they couldn't work. All while having an interesting story of the affect it would have , but in the end Superman learns a hard lesson and has to win back wonder woman's heart while she works past her pain, or something like that.

You know who is a character suited better for a love interest change? Batman. The Guy had so many that I lost count.

Supes on the other hand, has always been into Lois Lane. Despite being the 'damsel' she has enough character development over the years to have chemistry with Clark, thus making her interesting. Wondy/Supes doesn't. It's more of a marketing scheme for DC to get money, rather then developing a relationship for us readers to accept that. Wondy/Supes has always worked like that and it will take an amazing writer to break its cycle.

The thread got pretty interesting ^_^

@harlequinofhearts: Actually, Batman had a relationship change. He ended up in a somewhat committed relationship with Talia Al Ghul, but do to his commitment to crime fighting, it wasn't permanent, which was bs to say the least. Batman has also had far more differentiation than Superman over the years, so no he doesn't need anymore notches on his belt. He should settle down with his son's mother. That would actually be fresh and interesting to see with his character, rather thanbeing the play boy who bangs practically the entire DC Universe.

She was designed to be that way, which is why the writers made Superman so into her. They wanted to introduce a love for Superman, so what better than a woman they designed specifically for that, right? Yet over the years, their relationship grew incredibly tired , played out, and utterly boring. They played it safe with Superman for far too long, and it's about time that they did let Superman actually have a committed relationship with another woman. Superman and Wonder Woman have always had chemistry, even in the old 52 they showed interest in one another and tons of chemistry. If you had read any of the new 52 titles, you'd know that they actually have amazing chemistry with one another, and is one of the best couples to date. They aren't a marketing ploy, the only people who say that are people who hate the idea of change for Superman's love life or Wonder Woman. If you read the comics, you'd realize that their relationship is young, as are they, but it is still deep and interesting, especially since Wonder Woman and Superman have to deal with her family, the pantheon of greek gods, who all disprove of their relationship, due to Superman being an alien. This provides an incredible opportunity for challenge for them both, and Superman since he is facing incredibly powerful magical gods. With Lois Superman's only challenge is keeping her alive, that's really all there is to it. She is a damsel that, even with character development, has become incredibly boring and incompatible with Superman. Wonder Woman is an actual challenge, not only is she on equal footing, but she also refuses to be submissive, and can actually help him, whether emotionally or physically. This does away with the played out "me strong man you weak woman" crap and brings us an actual sense of teamwork between the couple, like when they faced zod and faora.

@huntressjustice: Did you even pay attention to what the kiss was for? She used it to get Orion off guard so that she could get close and threaten to beat the shit out of him and tear his balls off if he kept harassing her.

https://thanley.wordpress.com/2013/04/18/wonder-woman-19-review-or-orions-much-deserved-comeuppance/

First things first, I did mention that Bats does had alot of love interests in the past years. Zatanna, Catwoman... even Wondy. I only introduced Bats into the debate because of his several 'serious' relationships and that he is far more suited to a love interest change, because its interesting due to his dark personality and him interacting with characters that counter his personality and ideologically. Superman, if he was to have a love interest change, would feel like a form of OOC or we'd have that small voice in the back of our heads 'Hurry up and get together with Lois.' It'd take a person who understands Superman so well to change his love interest successfully. But with the current Supes/Wondy thing happening, it feels forced, like DC is trying to recreate the Bats/Wondy thing, so the money will be rolling in.

By your logic, that Supes/Lois is over done, is like stereotyping several 'traditional' (As you would call it) relationships to be over done. Such as Spider-Man and Mary Jane or Bats and Catwoman, which are both extremely interesting to read or watch.

Stop acting like a butthurt Supes/Wondy fanboy with biased logic. Despite how powerful Wonder Woman is, it IS a relationship with no chemistry.

Here this is something I put together JUST for you sweetheart

@harlequinofhearts: My point was that he doesn't need anymore notches, especially not with a well respected figure like Wonder Woman, who is also a feminist icon. Maybe closed minded people think that, but for those of us who are open minded, we grew tired of seeing Superman being constantly paired with one woman, and we watched as the relationship slowly died and became boring as hell. They aren't re-creating Bats/Wondy because Clark/Diana have far more chemistry and obvious differences from Bats/Wondy, such as Batman being dark and focus on just while wonder woman played sick puppy, and Clark being open hearted and loving, while Diana does the same, no sick puppies (good band).

My logic comes from them not getting along much now, and obvious flaws with their characters that would destroy any possible chemistry.

I'm not being a biased fanboy, I'm actually speaking from what I've seen and noticed for years. They have had chemistry on a grander scale than lois/clark and it is finally a main world focus, not just hints and chemistry that makes you giddy or an elseworld story, but an actual relationship that is beautiful and full of chemistry.

I can put pictures too:

I liek de relationshup

@redwolf9501 I have been in a fandom where shipping wars can happen by a slip of a tongue, you reviving a thread that has been dead is supporting that you are just a butthurt Fanboy who is acting close-minded, saying that 'the fresh way is the way to go', when in the case of Superman/Lois, it is clearly not.

Why else would DC put an end to one of there more iconic relationships? It's merely a publicity stunt to roll in cash. Its what I like to call the coca-cola stunt, where we get introduced to a new thing that will guarantee us fans to get butthurt and when the time is right, BOOM! Lois and Supes are back.

Thats why they have no chemistry, why Wondy kissed Orion and why they effing-stopped-the-bats-and-wondy-thing. Its just a marketing scheme. Honestly, I don't ship Lois and Supes myself, but because its so iconic and it was replaced by a relationship that bores me, it insults me to see you act as if 'Hip is the best route' when DC clearly took the route that would mess with 70 (?) years of lore and make us feel like the comics we sat through several years ago we should forget.

I said it a million times and I will say it again; Its a marketing scheme.

@harlequinofhearts: Friendly advice. Edit the swears before a MOD sees it and you get a warning.

@dernman: Thanks! I guess I got carried away a little bit ;3

Honestly I want Superman to stay single after he breaks up with Wonder Woman. Not only would it satisfy those who don't want him to hook up with Lois but to be frank, the love life portion of Superman's story hasn't been the most consistently well written by writers. Probably best they keep him single after this stupid PR stunt with occasional hints at the Lois romance.

@harlequinofhearts: No problem, It's happened to all of us a time or two.

@lvenger: I agree. I'm a big supporter of Clark and Lois but why rush the relationship? They're suppose to be younger. Have the attraction there for them but do a bit of exploring around options. Have some build up and don't just jump right in. The journey getting there is like half the fun.

@harlequinofhearts: That is no way to prove that I'm some closed minded fanboy. That's like saying this guy called me fat, so all men are assholes. Actually, in this case it is much needed. Who say Superman should only date one broad he actually barely had much chemistry with?

This isn't a stunt to roll in cash. They have hinted at a romance for years through obvious attraction between the characters, and even had one blossom between them quite a few times.

They've actually had chemistry for a very long time, even before the new 52. They not only have more in common, but they also understand each other better. Lois doesn't know what it's like to be non-human, have to save the world constantly, have people distrust her because she's different, etc. She's a normal human being, and often the damsel the needs to be saved, whereas Wonder Woman far better understands Superman in each of those areas and doesn't require constant saving. I'm sure you might try to pull the age old argument that "Lois grounds Superman and makes him more human", which is wrong because Clark actually grounds himself very well and has a down to earth personality, yet is also not human. He'll likely never be human, so trying to force him to be is a waste of time.

There is also the cold hard fact that he would have killed her time and again by now. Lois is falling from a building. Clark flies in and catches her, but he discovers that his speed, direction of travel, her body suddenly changing directions, and the force exerted upon her body from him simply flying to her and catching her, has broken her back, neck, several other bones, and ruptured her internal organs. Even with perfect muscle control, a person can only limit their self so much, and considering that he held the entire planets weight for about a week straight (keep in mind that just picking the planet up and setting it down would clock him in at lifting around 6.6 sextillion tons), he'd likely only be able to limit himself to (being generous) around 100,000 ton, which is still far more than enough to squish a human body to paste. So, if he ever sneezed or lost control of his muscles for even a split second, he would kill her.

http://ed.ted.com/lessons/if-superpowers-were-real-super-strength-joy-lin

Marvel wasn't afraid to explore this, when Spiderman accidentally killed Gwen Stacy when he tried to catch her with his web. The sudden stop broke her back and killed her instantly.

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/The-Death-of-Gwen-Stacy-original-comics-570x399.jpg

http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/styles/blog_post_in_content_image/public/gwen-stacy-death2.jpg?itok=zdgj-4HJ

Wonder Woman actually kissed Orion to get close to him and threaten to tear his balls off if he didn't quit sexually harassing her, if you had looked into it or read the comic, you would know that he had been sexually harassing her, and she wasn't having it.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmCDJdu_BD--KNMsu1cyofroYzKo841JJVu8PxlS5ipiCkwR3y

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/04/17/wonder-woman-and-orions-kiss-what-does-it-mean/

The Batman/Wonder Wonder relationship was WW using him and Aquaman as rebounds, because Clark was taken. She has actually made it clear in the old 52 comics, even outright saying, as she was turning down a ton of men she was offered, when it got to superman "he's taken". She was merely filling a void in her heart. Just because you have 70+ years of something, doesn't mean it can't change. Hell, technically speaking, it didn't because the Old Universes still exist in DC Comics, which was revealed with the upcoming Convergence series. This means that the Old multiverses are alive and well, so you still do have your Lois/Clark romance, but it's in another multiverse. One where the laws of physics and other scientific laws are constantly violated, and reality is bent more to the will of the writers. This is actually one of the reasons why I love the New 52, it makes far more sense, and they have shown themselves willing to do things that they haven't before, like immediately killing of the Trinity on Earth 2, and replacing them with different people entirely.

Wonder Woman is also a feminist icon. Her relationship with Superman has done her a massive amount of justice, because it shows that a strong woman can win the heart of even the strongest of men, which serves as a good message for women and young girls. She isn't his damsel, and he isn't her servant, they're partner and they work together to handle their problems. They understand each other emotionally and in personality in a way that not many can. She may have be raised to believe she was exceptional, but she was also shown how to be humble, and she has a heart of gold. He was raised humble, but knows he is also exceptional, while still preferring to be humble. They both care deeply for life. They hope to inspire others to do what's right, and to be stronger in hear

Couldn't agree more with you here. That's just how the Clark/Lois relationship should be built up. Slowly and surely, progressively getting more intimate and close with each other, which is what made the previous Clark and Lois romance beloved by fans and (shudder) shippers alike. But that's the other problem; once Superman and Wonder Woman ends, the 'Clois' fanbase will want Clark and Lois to hook up immediately. And that doesn't look good for either character.

Lois and Clark is boring. BUT I come to accept that she is only human and will die. Then Superman and Wonderwoman will hook up after. In other word, Lois and Clark are Soul Mates but Superman and Wonder Woman are also soul mates.

lois can't handle superman.

While I disagree on lois and clark being soulmates, I understand what you mean, and agree for the most part. Even if he were to date Lois for her entire life, she'd still eventually die, and he'd be left with the one woman who understood him more, and always had his back.