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Current Roy doesn't need to snap as he has access to a philosopher's stone and circleless transmutation even without it. Roy stomps

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Marvel. Deathstroke may be more skilled but he isn't putting down wolverine who definitely isn't that much worse at h2h than Slade for it to make it impossible for wolverine to tank his hits and gut him. Then he can join offense. Honestly with deadpool and wolvie's healing factors they can definitely get the the flag and bypass arrow and bane. Elektra I don't know much about so...yea...I'm gonna assume she can hold her own until Wolverine can join fray.

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Noooo my post was deleted when I hit reply as opposed to typing someone's name. As opposed to completely rewriting it I'll do a short version:

@beautifulrevery said:

1. Sentry is in this fight. Not void so that's pretty much a moot point imo.

It's not a moot point because there is nothing restricting the Void from taking over the host in this case. The title says Sentry but the OP doesn't restrict the Void's appearance in any way.

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2. I wasn't trying to say anyone would use telepathy on Sentry who I know is pretty much immune until proven otherwise due to his own powerful telepathy. What I was trying to say is that Thanos could use his telepathy on Blue Marvel and make it a 1v1 situation which I think we can all agree that Sentry at standard power levels is going to win 10/10 times, no questions asked. Now if Blue Marvel is immune which I've never heard or read anything to contradict my previous statement that he has almost no defense towards it then it becomes a 2v1 situation which while difficult I think Thanos could definitely pull a steep majority.

You said....

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Sentry as he's consistently portrayed has no chance at beating thanos because of his psychological issues. Let's not forget that thanos has telepathy.

Your wording made it seem as if you thought Thanos' telepathy would actually be a factor against Sentry. At any rate I've never seen a telepath use their abilities against characters in a combat situation like this, so I would say it's either out of character or they can't do it.

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I think we can all agree that Sentry at standard power levels is going to win 10/10 times, no questions asked. Now if Blue Marvel is immune which I've never heard or read anything to contradict my previous statement that he has almost no defense towards it then it becomes a 2v1 situation which while difficult I think Thanos could definitely pull a steep majority.

Yea, I don't disagree with this but this is why I bypassed Sentry entirely in my explanation. Any appearance of the Void is the only chance this team has.

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3. I don't believe either one of these combatants could beat Thanos on their own. I hold Thanos in a low skyfather tier of power in relation to the Marvel Universe if that makes sense. Thanos is essentially beating anyone Herald level and below unless they have some hax ability or are specifically made to kill him(i.e. Drax the Destroyer) otherwise almost anyone has no chance unless some extraordinary amount of prep is involved and they are Doom/Richards tier when it comes to that. Otherwise you'd need a Skyfather or someone at essentially his level to either stomp him or eek out some victories. And that's when he's not subject to PIS and his powers are displayed consistently. I mean in Thanos(the comic) he beat and tanked a pissed off beyonder(in a different,slightly weakened, slightly insane) form's attack and lived to tell about it(I'm not sure but I believe this was when he was a cosmic cube? Around 2003-2004 but I may be wrong if someone would like to correct me. I can post scans from that if you'd like) and proceeded to beat her/him at a later date in the same series.

Hopefully I've explained myself better than I did previously. If I didn't, I apologize and I'll try again tomorrow when I'm well rested.

I read part of your post wrong. I thought you were saying that if Thanos fought just Sentry the odds would be 10\10 over Sentry but 7-8\10 if it was just Thanos vs. Blue Marvel. I don't think either of them could beat him solo but I think he would win the majority over them with no outside variables or plot devices.

1. I normally view battles as involving the character stated as opposed to various iterations of the character unless otherwise stated that they can become those other iterations. I.e. Thor can't use feats as RKT, KT, or OKT w/Necro Sword. Or someone using feats from Spock in a vanilla Spider Man thread.

2. I was meant to address Sentry's power level with the comment on mental instability as opposed to his almost nonexistent vulnerability to telepathy. The reference to telepathy was meant to be a question as to whether blue marvel had any resistance to it as opposed to Sentry. I can validate this by showing you the immediate next statement in my previous post:

@vance_astro: that's void though which is an entirely different ball game to sentry even though they come from the same character. Their power levels are vastly different in each iteration. Sentry as he's consistently portrayed has no chance at beating thanos because of his psychological issues. Let's not forget that thanos has telepathy. I'm not sure if blue marvel has any resistance but if he doesn't this turns into a one one scenario that sentry loses 10/10 times. If BM is still in it I still see thanos taking 7-8/10 battles depending on sentrys mental state

3. Then we're in agreement on this point.

@mezame: As I addressed earlier I never meant to imply that Thanos was going to or able to use telepathy on Sentry. I meant to only reference his power level in regards to his mental stability. The telepathy reference was meant for Blue Marvel whom I don't know much about and as such I wanted to see if anyone knew whether or not he had any resistance to telepathy because if he did not than Thanos can easily dispatch him making this a 1v1 battle which he can win 10/10 times as opposed to a large majority when facing the 2 of them together.

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@jade1977 said:

Who do you prefer?

Not a battle. Flagged

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@vance_astro: that's void though which is an entirely different ball game to sentry even though they come from the same character. Their power levels are vastly different in each iteration. Sentry as he's consistently portrayed has no chance at beating thanos because of his psychological issues. Let's not forget that thanos has telepathy. I'm not sure if blue marvel has any resistance but if he doesn't this turns into a one one scenario that sentry loses 10/10 times. If BM is still in it I still see thanos taking 7-8/10 battles depending on sentrys mental state

1.The Void can appear at any time the Sentry's psyche is too weak to control the host.

2.Have you ever seen anyone use telepathy on the Sentry? People think that because he has issues mentally that he's an easy target for telepaths but in fact Sentry himself is a powerful telepath. The only person I know that has been in Sentry's head is Emma Frost and it's because he allowed it. I think Marvel Boy of the Agents of Atlas tried to get in his head to and he ended up hurting himself.

3.Why would you think Blue Marvel has a better chance of beating Thanos than Sentry? Or why do you think he could beat Thanos at all?

I think you misread my post or I mistyped my thoughts so I'll try and answer your bullet points in as clear a way as my tired mind can

1. Sentry is in this fight. Not void so that's pretty much a moot point imo.

2. I wasn't trying to say anyone would use telepathy on Sentry who I know is pretty much immune until proven otherwise due to his own powerful telepathy. What I was trying to say is that Thanos could use his telepathy on Blue Marvel and make it a 1v1 situation which I think we can all agree that Sentry at standard power levels is going to win 10/10 times, no questions asked. Now if Blue Marvel is immune which I've never heard or read anything to contradict my previous statement that he has almost no defense towards it then it becomes a 2v1 situation which while difficult I think Thanos could definitely pull a steep majority.

3. I don't believe either one of these combatants could beat Thanos on their own. I hold Thanos in a low skyfather tier of power in relation to the Marvel Universe if that makes sense. Thanos is essentially beating anyone Herald level and below unless they have some hax ability or are specifically made to kill him(i.e. Drax the Destroyer) otherwise almost anyone has no chance unless some extraordinary amount of prep is involved and they are Doom/Richards tier when it comes to that. Otherwise you'd need a Skyfather or someone at essentially his level to either stomp him or eek out some victories. And that's when he's not subject to PIS and his powers are displayed consistently. I mean in Thanos(the comic) he beat and tanked a pissed off beyonder(in a different,slightly weakened, slightly insane) form's attack and lived to tell about it(I'm not sure but I believe this was when he was a cosmic cube? Around 2003-2004 but I may be wrong if someone would like to correct me. I can post scans from that if you'd like) and proceeded to beat her/him at a later date in the same series.

Hopefully I've explained myself better than I did previously. If I didn't, I apologize and I'll try again tomorrow when I'm well rested.

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@vance_astro: that's void though which is an entirely different ball game to sentry even though they come from the same character. Their power levels are vastly different in each iteration. Sentry as he's consistently portrayed has no chance at beating thanos because of his psychological issues. Let's not forget that thanos has telepathy. I'm not sure if blue marvel has any resistance but if he doesn't this turns into a one one scenario that sentry loses 10/10 times. If BM is still in it I still see thanos taking 7-8/10 battles depending on sentrys mental state

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#7  Edited By beautifulrevery
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No way Drax solos. Nothing he did in the movie put him on a CRAZY strength or speed level. Juggernaut was stated to be unstoppable once he gained any momentum and plowed through solid walls like nothing. The GotG better hope Starlord or Rockets guns work on him.

This is actually a pretty good battle. Gotta think about this one.

Plowed through walls? Really? That's the best strength/durability feat you can muster for movie Juggernaut? Unless he's in another xmen movie and shows something FAR more impressive he gets stomped by groot or drax(unless you employ the no limits fallacy which no one here respects at all for its sheer idiocy when applied to most characters). Again the only problem here is pyro and any one of the guardians can blindside him while he's focused on any of the others. Pyro's abilities are not instantaneous, nor are they only thought provoked. He has to have some physical accompaniment in order to activate them and once the rest of the team is down(mostly due to Drax or Groot) he goes down quickly. The guardians win fairly handily with mediocre difficulty.

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@shiryu: take franklin Richards for example. A true blue reality warper. He can create almost any effect he can imagine ranging from pocket dimensions to turning a apple into a banana. Reality warping.

Tony can screw with the laws of physices(specifically he can nullify the four fundamental forces with great effort) however he hasn't tapped into his full potential. He hasn't displayed any ability to show he's anything more than a budding reality warper. What little he can do takes a lot. Of effort and concentration on his part therefore it's extraordinarily useless in battle. If tony can warp reality then why did he take that beating from Bette? Why didn't he just will away the radiation? Why not pull modeus out of the girl he was sickly obsessed with? Because he couldn't. And the reason being he doesn't have the experience or control to truly be considered a reality warper.

EDIT: Forgot to mention. Tony was shown to only be able to mess with one of the fundamental forces through nullification only. That does not equate a reality warper. If anything it makes him an inertia nullifier unless otherwise stated.

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I just reread irredeemable. Tony isn't a reality warper as of yet. He can screw with the laws if physics though. But doing so requires a lot of effort on his part. He's not at his parents level.

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Plutonian at the end of irredeemable(not the very end if you catch my drift)

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Thragg(invincible)

Hyperion(616 Hyperion)

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