@Killemall: @Lvenger:
First let me reiterate I'm not saying Thor wins, never was. I'm saying ( and have always believed) that a Superman Thor fight can be argued either way depending on the flow of the battle and the mindset of the combatants .
1. The Boy Scout in Superman almost never brings out his speed until or unless he's facing an opponent who has proven to be a threat that his other powers can't handle. Even in the SA this was the case.
2. The Noble warrior in Thor is the same with Mjilnor. He never taps into this almost endless bag of tricks until he believes it "honorable" to do so. Against Hulk who is only a brick to equal or slightly greater level he will only ever use his strength and physical attributes because that is the honorable way to fight. He does however call on Mjilnor when faced with opponents of a wider variety of powersets like Superman. For example Silver Surfer.
Let's not forget the vastly more varied abilities Mjilnor brings to the battle. I've seen it used in Avenger much like GL ring creating an energy field to safely carry team mates who can't fly or survive space into battle or to safety. I've seen it used to create force fields, create vortex's to other places, Absorb and use almost any type of energy, Time manipulate and stop, transmute objects, undo magic, even caste minor spells. All this is without it's normal everyday control weather shtick. The ones I've done it incident I'll grant Thor has only done once or trice so are very unlikely in a battle. The others however IMO he has called on fairly consistently throughout his printed history. All would be valid attacks or defenses against Superman and I would say his use of mjilnor to do all those not in incident are used by Thor ( as a whole) more often than Superman uses his speed to blitz. What I'm saying is the consistency argument for me equally sits for both because overall the types of attacks he could use from Mjilnor that would be effective against superman are every bit as consistent as Superman using speed because he does call on one of them as often if not more so.
Superman really only pulls out his speed if there is a great threat that needs to be dealt with quickly to save many, or he is faced with someone who is his match in every other respect and he needs it to make the difference. Thor as i said calls on Mjilnor only when his honor considers it appropriate. Against a being of physical powers of strength and durability he would not so but just like Superman will call on the wider array of Mjilnor's power when faced with an opponent of wider range of powers. The way i see it Superman is such an opponent with his heat vision, freeze breath etc. Let's also not forget that even if Supe's "blitzes" he's not necessarily putting Thor down quickly. If you believe that then you've sorely underestimated Thor's durability. This is the guy who took a full power cosmic blast from Silver Surfer and kept battling even though he had a gaping wound in his gut from the source tree prior to battle. There is nothing in he history he hasn't endured and fought through. A speed blitz wont end the battle and win the day, it will require a maintained blitz for quite a while of very high intensity.
The way I see it it always comes down to who calls on those powers first and how intensively they do. If Superman calls on his speed first and does so intensively maintaining it with full force assaults until he wins he takes the match, if Thor calls upon the power of Mjilnor and say absorbs Superman's energy or puts a force field around him and continues to assault him with everything he has than he does.
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