@beatboks1: I belive SA superman first appear is from superman 053,before it's GA superman,you can check it until "Silver age",they are was same superman
No, though they did incorporate much of the stories of that era into the history of SA Supes. But then they also redid many of the older stories again for the SA. For example in Action 60 Lois became "Superwoman" in her dreams after dreaming she had been given a blood transfusion by Superman. In the silver age it happened without being a dream sequence.
Only originally. When he debuted in Action 1 he was as "powerful as a locomotive, able to LEAP tall buildings and faster than a speeding bullet". From Action 21 on he was steadily upgraded because Fawcett had launched Whiz comics with Captain Marvel as it's lead and it was outselling Action in a major way. Some issues of Captain marvel and the marvel Family sold well over a million copies and Superman was enhanced to keep up with the cash cow.
He can fly, but im thinking that pic was of sa superman not golden age. Golden age was barely faster than a train, he would be lucky to beat Ironman, in fact I don't think he would, and he has no shot at beating this team.
You need to look at where you get your info from once again you are WAY off.
Superman in early Golden age even at lowest was faster than a bullet not a train. easiest proof comes from Superman #3
He's not even near the train when he spots it heading for the small boy. has time to change into Superman, catch up to it pass it and get the boy out of harms way. A tad more than just a LITTLE faster than a train.
This is from Action #32 (just before Whiz comics launches Captain marvel and he starts to get upgraded)
My collection includes a few early issues of Superman plus Action 17 to 24 and 44 to 150 (published in 1950 5 years before SA). I can post as many scans as you'd like to show you just how wrong you are.
Fate vs Strange= bloodfuge with Viners and IMO stalemate or never ending fight
This one pretty much depends on the versions of each.
Classic Fate (Kent) vs Classic Strange I'd agree stalemate. I see Strange as a slightly more powerful Mage but Fate compensating for that with his vastly greater physical power and his energy matter manip (which was often depicted as more scientific and didn't use spell)
Modern Strange against Inza, or Kent V I'd also say is a stalemate. Despite having less showings Kent V has a better record than Hector or the Straus' who wore the helm. For one thing he's defeated two hell lords and did so as a Neophyte before he even knew that the Helm could give him the information he needed to know. Now that he knows the helm is literally a magic library where all he has to do is be open to it and it gives him the exact spell he needs when he needs it he should be up to matching Strange. Inza (Kent's wife) while the least destructive was by far the most creative of any version of Fate.
Quite frankly I'd expect any version of Strange to defeat either Eric or Linda Straus, and only a LOW level Strange on a very OFF day wouldn't eventually win against Hector. He had very mixed showings throughout the JSA series. he defeated Mordru a few times but really only with outside help or the guidance of Kent (after withdrawing into the Amulet heaven Kent had created for him and his wife).
@roddy010: yeah because that's possible (not). An entity that existed before time and will exist after time possessing a body specifically altered to be immortal. Even reality Warpers have been shown unable to destroy him. The only victory ever attained against Dr Fate ( and there were two) where by making him fall through an infinity of dimensions. In both cases he eventually returned and it doesn't qualify as a "win" as per OP because it's not death
@baron_von_santa: I agree with Czarney that Damage, PG, and BA aren't defeating any on team 2. At best BA will occupy one because two of the gods that power him grant him strength and durability ( hence why he's stronger and more durable than Cap marvel but no where near as fast or the stamina the later being why cap always wins).
PG will be the first to fall, she been belted senseless by Ultra Humanite and his physicals while good wouldn't match here he'd only be up with them due to mental power.
Damage can go nuclear with enough force to destroy a state ( as he's done) the problem is there is no one on team 2 that it will actually take out.
Of all the Fates Hec has the fewest feats and all the good ones are with prep or the guidance of either Nabu or Kent ( from within the helm). Honestly I think Czarney's being kind saying he'll occupy Strange. He has the power but experience works against him. He should be capable of it but I think Strange wins in the end.
So we have BA occupying one of the marvel Bricks and Fate lasting a little while b4 falling other than that it leaves Obsidian and Uncle Sam to fight the remaining bricks and Vision. Ordinarily Obie's soul possession would potentially give the win but I see Mjilnor as a shield to that. At their peaks they can both take two of the enemy ( both have the ability to take on Vision intangible Ina away that he actually can't touch them either) the question is can they do it b4 Strange wins cause if not they're done.
@baron_von_santa: Spectre wasn't busy. He like the rest of the All Stars were casually holding a meeting when US burst in. Spectre went to contain him and was physically pushed away by Sam's TK .Nothing what soever to do with TP ( that Sam also has and apart never uses). My point was that this was the same Spectre who could hold planets ( plural) apart. Planets not just drawn by gravity but by spartial means as well ( i.e. The natural tendency of both to fill their own spartial place in time and space)
That's from an Uncle Sam when Americans are patriotic because at war but their belief rocked because they've been attacked on home soil.
@baron_von_santa: I just gave you one example that pretty much shows he actually doesn't have a limit. The very issue after he mentally pushed Spectre off him ( which surprised Spec quite a bit) Spectre was holding Earth X and Earth 2 apart from trying to occupy the same place in time and space. This wasn't even Sam's peak as it was just after he'd questioned his faith as had Americans due to the attack on American soil on Earth X.
At his peak he could solo. At high but not peak levels he'd be a problem for many of the powerhouses ( more so than even Fate or Obsidian). Usually he operates vastly below that
@baron_von_santa: just like czarney said for Glads etc Uncle Sam doesn't work that way. It's not the number of Americans that believe in America that powers him it's the combination of that with the level of their faith in the ideals of America. Example in All Star Squadron shortly after Pearl Harbor US could create mental force fields that could push off even Corrigan Spectre. He could easily smack around Baron Blitzcrieg who's power was enough to defeat Superman or GA Wonder Woman ( who was even more powerful than SA as she could casually rope a planet and pull it out of it's orbit with her Lasso)
He can range from this to not much over peak human. When he inspires even
Just his team his power rises etc.
Potentially he can be the most powerful here or the weakest