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@SmoothJammin said:

The last ditch lunge to save Sonia in NW #14? Unless proved otherwise I'd say it's another one that qualifies.

My understanding of the scene was that...

Shiva's real target was just to cause an attack on the building to shut down the SEC meetings, and in as far as that goes, she succeeded despite Nightwing's intervention, so I do not think it counts.

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@Stormbox:

I remember there was a big discussion early on in the DCNU about Batman and the rest of the Justice League killing parademons. Apparently, Batman reeeeally does not like Parademons. (smiles)

I actually think this topic deserves a whole story arc. Maybe Kal-El should have a conversation with Bruce about his willingness to kill aliens.

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@Saucedo17 said:

DC should just give us a batman/RHaTO crossover already.

I am sure it is in the works.

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The short answer is that is differs from writer to writer. I've seen Batman explicitly say that he does not believe in God, and I've seen him specifically do things, such as pray, that show he does believe in God.

The long version has already been provided by others in this thread.

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@Cezar_TheScribe said:

Religion of Comic Book Characters (esp. Super-Heroes)

I've been there before. It's a good site.

@PurpleCandy said:

Well it wouldn't make too much sense for him to be an theist, since he lives in a world where gods litterly exist. Ofcourse that dosen't always mean people will worship them, though there's no way to believe they dont exist

Many people would say that there is a difference between the comic book "gods" and a one true God perspective.

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Grab a ticket and stand in line. The Bat editors are asleep at the wheel. I find it hard to believe they have not already walked back this deceleration since it so clearly does not work. And all for what, to make Batman five years younger? As if new fans even care if Bruce is twenty-five or thirty-five.

New Fan, "That action scene was awesome, but I feel like Batman was moving and thinking like someone in his thirties. I do not think I can relate to him."

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@entropy_aegis said:

@BiteMe-Fanboy said:

@Eternal19 said:

Just dont think about it.

That's the smartest thing I have ever heard anyone say ever.

Yeah well I dont,but every other month DC inserts a stupid detail regarding the timeline.They really want you to buy it.

True, and every month, they come out with some new plot point which clearly makes no sense in the five year span. It makes me want to slap someone.

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He would work more with the cops and other superheros. That is the only way I can see him being a better Batman.

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@Skewer said:

@Crom-Cruach said:

hate shiva's new look, it just terrible

If you think that's bad, you should checkout her motive, money. She's now a generic hitman(or woman in her case)

Yeah, that annoyed me too.

@The_Paper_Monkey said:

@Skewer said:

@Crom-Cruach said:

hate shiva's new look, it just terrible

If you think that's bad, you should checkout her motive, money. She's now a generic hitman(or woman in her case)

She was an assassin for hire prior to New 52. Its not a change.

Occasionally she took a contract for money, but her original and personal interest was always in improving her fighting ability and getting a rush from battle. I suppose that could still be intact in the DCNU, but they did not give any hint towards it.

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@mrdecepticonleader said:

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@mrdecepticonleader:

He does not have much in any of the issues I have read. In that particular panel, he just looks sad.

Still, I'm sure someone has given him a personality, but in mine, he was either generic mob boss (No Man's Land) or a mindless monster (Hush)

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Yeah he has not been given much in terms of character,there has been stories where he has more character.

I do not know if you caught it, but there was an issue of Legends of the Dark Knight a month or two ago that actually showed some personality for Croc. It was actually quite good. You can check out my review of it in the Legends section of BatWatch.net if you are interested.

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@Ravager4 said:

@BatWatch said:

they have given undue “screen time” to her naked form and sexual encounters in a rather transparent effort to appeal to male readers.

And this is different from the numerous other female characters out there that comics do this to... how? Just because she's gay?

@INLIFE said:

EVERY comic book company in some way or form have used their female characters, homosexual or not, to arouse male readers.......

A lot........A LOT of female characters are sexually exploited. Batwoman's sexuality does not have a large effect on this trend.

Besides, the pillow talk is a really good thing in story. It shows character development instead of your typical conversations in other comics.

I think they are playing it up more because she is a lesbian. Yes, comic book heroines are often put in scantily clad positions; check out Worlds' Finest or Catwoman for example, and this is partially addressing that issue which is present in almost all comic book heroines, but I do think they are playing it up even further because of the lesbian angle. I cannot think of any other examples of a sex scene that lasts half an issue. Can you? I am sure there are some, but not many.

If we compare Batwoman to the best selling of the DCNU female led Bat titles, Batgirl, we see a grand total of zero undie scenes in the first four issues.

I am not sure that Batwoman's sexual elements were played up because she is a lesbian; that is one of the reasons the title of the article is a question, but regardless of the reason, it is unnecessary and exploitative.

@Roger Rabbit said:

The weird part about this is the points you make suggest they aren't exploiting her homosexuality but then all of a sudden you try to say they are without any explanation as to why. They could be exploiting her femininity but that's a completely different issue. In fact, Batwoman gets very little publicity in comparison to most DC comics. I think if anything would cause people to pick it up, it would be that it's easily one of the best comics in DC in the art department on a consistent basis and if I was unfamiliar with the concept of the book, art of that quality and the fact the title tells me it's somewhat related to the Bat-franchise would get me to read it. Sexual exploitation is hardly even relevant in her scenario because her covers always showcase the magnificent art style and have never sexualized the character from what I can see whereas most heterosexual females and males use sex appeal as part of their draw.

No, I did not. I gave two different avenues of how her sexuality could be exploited, and I said they had not on the first avenue, but they had on the second.

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@mrdecepticonleader:

He does not have much in any of the issues I have read. In that particular panel, he just looks sad.

Still, I'm sure someone has given him a personality, but in mine, he was either generic mob boss (No Man's Land) or a mindless monster (Hush)

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