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#1  Edited By Battlepig

Heh, coincidentially, I have written about this in my first and to date only blog post here.

Basically, keep it simple. I have included advice on what I'd put on a shirt in the comments. For your convenience, here they are, copypasted. After being asked by @G-Man about what I'd put on the shirts, I said this:

 It's probably easier if we go the other way around. What to not put on a shirt.

  • Funny captions or a witty statement: Who hasn't looked at a person with an "I'm with stupid"-shirt and rolled his eyes? And if it's an insider joke from this site, nobody will get it, since the world is rather big compared to this site.
  • Faces. A drawing that is a two-dimensional represenation of a three dimensional thing that we see every day and assoicate a specific form with is a bad idea because we do react strongly when that thing with all its associations and fixed points of references is distorted. And no matter how good a face might look on a drawing board, you will not be able to make it look good on a T-Shirt. Because everyone who sees it will react negatively before they go "That's nice art. I wonder what the shirrt is about". it's a subconscious thing and we can't help it.
  • Something that covers three quarters of the shirt.
  • Something that stigmatizes people. The first thing people notice about a person is their clothing and the way they look. So making a shirt is - and this sounds astonishingly stupid - quite a responsibility,since you're the one who tells the world who the wearer is.

So here's what you could do:
  • The simple route would be to just put the site's logo on the chest of the shirt and offer a light and dark shirt. Black and white are not bad choices for they are basic enough to not distract from the logo. When making a shirt that is - to an extent - an advertisement for something, the fabric itself should not be distracting from the "main event".
  • Put a symbol that represents the site on the chest and the site's logo on the sleeve. People always underestimate the sleeves on shirts and think that they're just "sort of... there". But the things on the sleeve should be small, since they're a real eyecatcher. People are not used to seeing something on a sleeve, so they're bound to look at it.
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#2  Edited By Battlepig
@ahumancartoon said:
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No Caption Provided


25 years ago I bought this issue and to this day I have no idea who the characters circled in red are. Can the good people here help shed some light on this decades old question?

"
Right, so that issue you have there, it reprints the Legion of Super Heroes #14 from 1985. The characters you're looking for are all applicants for the Legion and they obviously don't get chosen. Thus, they're never named in the issue and the issue before that is one page of "Let's have a merry casting show of Legionnaires" and then some Timber Wolf adventure. On this note, I'd like to point out how ahead of its time the Legion was despite it being absolutely ridiculous. Always has been, always will be. But I digress.

The two fish-like applicants never say anything but "SKREAK!" and for some reason, they're not given translators like Tellus I even checked a couple issues before that and they don't appear until the issue before the one you have. The whale-like applicant only shows up on a screen and the purple/blue guy doesn't show up at all as far as I can tell.

Sorry to not have better news, but they're just throwaway characters, it seems.
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#3  Edited By Battlepig

For Supergirl, I recommend starting with the first issue of the series that is currently running. It's at about #60 right now, so it's quite a bit of a read, but you will get a comprehensive history of who Supergirl is and what she's doing. The "Who" is rather important because Supergirl has been wrecked a bit before this current series. There has been a clone Supergirl and then she was an Angel and in love with a Horseman and it was all very confusing and borderline unreadable. So they scratched it all and gave us back Kara as we know and love her.

Now, mind you, the Supergirl book isn't the best book in the world, but the overall nice art andyou quite probably being a fan of the character should make you enjoy it.

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#4  Edited By Battlepig
@U R Sofa King We Todd Did said:
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This is from the 2004 Loki miniseries. Four issues in total.

@U R Sofa King We Todd Did said:
" Also what is the name of the comic where Superman gets old with a really long beard and at some point he has this really big gun. I'm almost positive its a Elseworlds and the picture for the topic "Should Comic Character's Age" is from it. "

I've already told you that in a message, but for those who also wonder: Superman - At Earth's End from way back in 1995.
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#5  Edited By Battlepig
@G-Man said:
" Great read. My wife's not too crazy about my t-shirts. Luckily she puts up with them. 

My question is, if Comic Vine were to make a shirt, what would you want?
"
It's probably easier if we go the other way around. What to not put on a shirt.
  • Funny captions or a witty statement: Who hasn't looked at a person with an "I'm with stupid"-shirt and rolled his eyes? And if it's an insider joke from this site, nobody will get it, since the world is rather big compared to this site.
  • Faces. A drawing that is a two-dimensional represenation of a three dimensional thing that we see every day and assoicate a specific form with is a bad idea because we do react strongly when that thing with all its associations and fixed points of references is distorted. And no matter how good a face might look on a drawing board, you will not be able to make it look good on a T-Shirt. Because everyone who sees it will react negatively before they go "That's nice art. I wonder what the shirrt is about". it's a subconscious thing and we can't help it.
  • Something that covers three quarters of the shirt.
  • Something that stigmatizes people. The first thing people notice about a person is their clothing and the way they look. So making a shirt is - and this sounds astonishingly stupid - quite a responsibility,since you're the one who tells the world who the wearer is.

So here's what you could do:
  • The simple route would be to just put the site's logo on the chest of the shirt and offer a light and dark shirt. Black and white are not bad choices for they are basic enough to not distract from the logo. When making a shirt that is - to an extent - an advertisement for something, the fabric itself should not be distracting from the "main event".
  • Put a symbol that represents the site on the chest and the site's logo on the sleeve. People always underestimate the sleeves on shirts and think that they're just "sort of... there". But the things on the sleeve should be small, since they're a real eyecatcher. People are not used to seeing something on a sleeve, so they're bound to look at it.

@Vitality said:
"First...If you think you're not getting laid because you're wearing a comic book shirt...you're wrong.

 

Second...if by just looking at that shirt gives you a seizure...there is something wrong with you, not the shirt.

 

Third...If you're such a comic book fan that you have an account on this site...yet you're worried about people calling you a nerd and actually want to try and hide the fact that you like comic books this much...than you may need to re-evaluate yourself.

 

Fourth...Fig. #1 is better than Fig. #2 in my opinion."

I am not trying to hide the fact that I'm a nerd. In fact, I wear comic book or movie related shirts every day. But I do like looking fashionable. And while I agree that Fig #1 is artistically way more impressive than Fig #2, it just is not a good shirt. It's too busy, too crowded and it has faces on it. I don't even mind being branded a nerd or anything, but I'd like to look good while being a nerd.

In Fig #2, they actually put effort into designing the shirt. Like, actual creative effort went into making it. Besides, it is much closer to Steve Rogers than Fig #1. And it's closer to comics, as well. They took something directly from a character, not a comic book, thus limiting the distance between reader and what the reader aspires to represent..

Also, Fun fact: There actually is a british version of this shirt, made by Titan Merchandising that has the symbol on the sleeves as well. Besides, the shirt looks nice. There are ugly shirts that are rather basic, like the one that has four to six round things on it, like Thor's stuff. That shirt is just bizarre. 
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#6  Edited By Battlepig
@KRYPTON said:
" Bucky shouldn't even be doing time for his crimes as Winter Soldier, why does the American Government want to ice him now instead of years before becoming Captain America? We know why Bucky is in prison, but maybe the government has a vendetta on Bucky.  "
That, or it's one of these ridiculous political signals that the higher-ups think are so important. But the people who get to notice it won't get it as politics are so far removed from real life by this point that they don't really impact anything Joe the Plumber does anymore. That would be a nice QED-sort of thing, though. Because the readers don't get it either.
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#7  Edited By Battlepig

How about creating a new identity for Bucky? I mean, it's not like Steve Rogers' Super Soldier was previously established and him giving up his secret identity was one of the more interesting moves in recent comic book history - even though he did go on an undercover mission in his very firstt mission as Super Steve which is the one time where he would actually need a secret identity.

Or, alternatively, they could just let Bucky be Bucky. Not the sidekick-Bucky but use his actual name. Because he is James "Bucky" Buchanan Barnes. He doesn't really need a secret identity anymore, most heroes don't. I mean, they go punch superpowered robots from the planet Herfblargh in Central Park every other week. How can you expect anyone to believe that "Uh... I walked into a corner. Wait, what robot fight?" would cover up the wounds you've sustained? Besides, quite some heroes manage just fine without a secret identity. Tony Stark did fine for a while (no idea if it's still public knowledge or not since I can't stand Larroca's photoshoppery), John Stewart and Guy Gardner can get by just fine...

But I have to digress here for a bit. Why did they make Steve Super Soldier to begin with? He's been that for how long? A year? Sure, they have a movie coming out and all that, but they knew that before they were Supersoldiering him. So why create the Super Soldier in the first place?

And yes, it was a good idea, because it was new and exciting and felt fresh. It's not just rehashing some old costume with a new guy in it. I can understand it when they do it with the big icon heroes, like the Marvel Universe needs a Captain America, but it does not need a U.S.Agent or even a Bucky (the costume, not the name).

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#8  Edited By Battlepig

Warning, this review might contain spoilers. So if you haven't seen it yet, you might want to skip my comment below.

Thor was a good movie. Not just a good comic book movie, but a good movie. It's had its fun parts, none of it were silly, and its serious parts. Superb acting, too. And the best part is that Chris Hemsworth actually looks like Thor.

But as with almost everything, it's not a perfect film. Kenneth Brannagh seems to have this weird obsession with angled shots. I don't mind them popping up here and there, but most of this movie was crooked. It got on my nerves after a while. Well, not on my nerves, but the thought of "Wait... what's this thing with crooked pictures" crossed my mind at least once and it kind of took me out of the movie.

The other part is the pacing. I rarely ever notice it in movies, but here I can't help but notice that maybe a lot of it was left on the cutting room floor. Because you have the first act, the act that introduces us to the story and the character and the world. That's beautifully done and executed. Brannagh took his time to make sure that we knew exactly who was who and what they do and where they are. It was very nicely done. Then Thor gets sent to Earth and within one night, he becomes a grown-up do-gooder. That's kind of hard to believe, isn't it. And then, really briefly - even though spectacularly - the movie ends.

Also, I might add that Thor's "hero shot" where he gets his Hammer... wow, what an amazing scene.

All in all, I recommend the movie to everyone for it is awesome.

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#9  Edited By Battlepig

I personally think that the issue with Superman is that they're trying to make him to so very American. The point is that America's influence has spread all throughout the world and has basically defined the entire culture that DC's audience has grown up in. So whatever value he holds dear, it's basically what we take for granted. So Superman's entire motivation is the very same thing that we take for granted. We're not really looking at him and going "Oooh, what an amazing rolemodel for me!" because we are living all that he sought to inspire.

Now with his shift to the global way, yeah, go figure. His ideals are the ideals of the western world. So it's the American Way minus the stigmata of patriotism. Thus, it ultimately is pointless.