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@yodagod said:

This isn't the stomp everyone wants to make it out to be. Dick and Tim are very good. They're smarter and more experienced than almost everyone else. Terry can hang with Lane. The righteous have superior teamwork. I think Damien and probably Huntress will go down fairly quickly leaving double team opportunities. Not that it gives the righteous a victory, but it makes it too close to call for me.

All great points. This match seems very close to me as well. One group has more might and power, while the other group seems to have more tactical prowess and better teamwork. And I agree, Dick and Tim are a force to be reckoned with. With both of their skills put together, they have a chance at taking down a powerful force such as Cassandra Cain.

I go every two weeks and buy only one issue every visit, which means I only spend $6 a month usually. I buy whichever comic has interesting content and catches my eye. Buying a whole series, issue by issue, is too costly, so instead I wait for the hardcover collections to come out and borrow them from the library to read. I usually just end up owning a couple issues from each storyarc, the most vital parts. I hate not owning them, but I'm tight on cash.

@The Stegman said:

Neither, for a true Amazon needs no man.

@SandMan_ said:

Neither... Why not have Steve Trevor.

Let's keep Diana's relationships with Clark and Bruce platonic. I'd prefer the furthest they go with each other is deep friendship and camaraderie; nothing beyond that. The JLA's top three should keep it professional.

@TDK_1997 said:

@BatCow said:

@TDK_1997 said:

@BatCow: Well,the Rebels have Azrael and Cass.Cass is one of the best martial artists and I can't seen anyone defeating her in this fight from the other team and the same is for Michael Lane.

Even though Cass is, beyond any doubt, the strongest fighter, she could be beaten by ingenuity, instead of pure hand-to-hand combat. Tim Drake could probably find a way to stun or lessen her senses, while Nightwing could deliver a few blows.

Cass even stunned can stop Nightwing and with the help of the others from her team,they will win this fight not that hardly.

The problem with the Rebel team is that they are all too individualistic. Most aren't good at working with teams, for example Damian Wayne and Huntress aren't good at following orders and prefer to do things their own way. They are also all too impulsive and hot-headed. Talia al Ghul and Jason Todd would definitely be willing to sacrifice a teammate, so I doubt Cassandra would be getting much help.

@TDK_1997 said:

@BatCow: Well,the Rebels have Azrael and Cass.Cass is one of the best martial artists and I can't seen anyone defeating her in this fight from the other team and the same is for Michael Lane.

@HBKTimHBK said:

Rebels win, Cassandra Cain being a big reason why.

Even though Cassandra is, beyond any doubt, the strongest fighter, she could be beaten by ingenuity, instead of pure hand-to-hand combat. Tim Drake could probably find a way to stun or lessen her senses, while Nightwing could deliver a few blows.

@TDK_1997 said:

The Rebels win.

How so?

@RainEffect said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Cassandra Cain with Jason almost makes this a stomp,

Jason isn't that good. Dick has proven he can beat him. Don't get me wrong, I like Jason, but you're overestimating him. That being said, Cass definitely tilts the odds - not to mention Azrael. It might be better to replace Terry with Bruce.

I think that Terry is an appropriate combatant. I'm trying to keep Bruce out of it. If he were put on one side, the victory would be pretty decisive.

@CitizenBane said:

None of these people can even put a dent in Lane, even if they attack him all at the same time, so what is this debate about?

I think that Terry's batsuit can take on the Suit of Sorrows. It would be difficult to compare a high-tech suit and a suit that gains its powers from mystical forces, but I still think that Batman Beyond can take on Azrael. Plus, Azrael depends mostly on close combat. Terry could probably evade a lot of his attacks.

I'll rescind Terry's handicaps so that the fight will be more fair. I may have underestimated Michael Lane. Terry now has all of his equipment, including his cloaking device and rocket boots.

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Cassandra Cain with Jason almost makes this a stomp,

I agree that Cassandra Cain would be a hard-hitter in this fight, but Jason isn't really that powerful. I think what really gives him his edge is his ruthlessness, but in this match, every character is going all out.

Plus, Jason Todd has been beaten by Nightwing, during the Battle for the Cowl storyarc. He was also almost killed by the Flamingo, if it hadn't been for Dick Grayson and Damian Wayne's intervention.

The Rebels: Damian Wayne, Jason Todd, Cassandra Cain, Huntress, Talia al Ghul, Azrael (Michael Lane)

VS

The Righteous: Tim Drake, Nightwing, Stephanie Brown, Batwoman, Catwoman, Batman Beyond (Terry McGinnis)

All characters have all of their standard gear and equipment. Jason Todd has limited ammo.

No prep time

Battle takes place in present-day Gotham City

Characters do not hesitate to inflict damage