Azathoth_The_Dread_Sleeper

@noone301994 said:

@azathoth_the_dread_sleeper: Well he has the telepathy built into the 'Bleeding Edge' suit. You know, the one stated in the OP? So it wouldn't be the same claim that I was making. Also, just because he said, "wow i haven't used this in awhile" doesn't mean 100% that he carries it around with him... That's speculation and nowhere near proof that he carries these weapons around all the time. If he did you would see him using them WAY more than he does.

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The OP doesn't say he has 'telepathy' built into the Bleeding Edge. LOL. Try again.

Iron Man rarely encounters any telepaths and shows that he's immune to their influence, so by your logic, he doesn't have any defense against telepathy. Following your laughable logic, claiming that Iron Man is immune to telepathy is also PURE speculation, and the fact that he rarely mentions it in his own words leaves a rather large burden of proof on your shoulders. Doom doesn't "CARRY" his weapons around because they're built into his suit. Poorly worded argument on your part. It's already established that his standard armor has them.

"If he did you would see him using them WAY more than he does."

^^^HILARIOUSLY broken logic.

Thanos has molecular manipulation yet he doesn't even BOTHER to turn SS or anyone else into stone like he did with Skragg. The Twilight Sword has the power to wipe out entire galaxies yet Surtur never uses it to completely obliterate Asgard. Mjolnir can create and wield the anti-force which can instantly destroy any physical enemy, yet Thor doesn't use it in most of his fights. Don't confuse Character-Induced Stupidity with inability.

"Why did Doom resort to using magic here?"

Because he wanted to scare the fuck out of Iron Man and show him who he's dealing with. Did you also forget that Doom is an egotistical prick who has a knack for blustering and showing off? Did you also forget that in the Children's Crusade comic when Doom had HOM Wanda's powers, he could have killed every hero around him with just a thought yet chose not to? If I applied the same STUPID logic you previously applied to Doom's armor, HOM Wanda doesn't have the power to wipe people out.

Face it. One blast of his anti-molecular force beam is all Doom needs to finish this fight, ESPECIALLY when PIS or CIS isn't involved. His personal adapters can suck Bleeding Edge's energy dry in seconds. He can shrink Tony and send him into the microverse. He can convert Tony into energy and eat him into his armor like candy. Doom has multiple options to utterly destroy him.

A bloodlusted Doom who isn't arrogant and never underestimates his opponents = One dead Iron Man.

Canon supports my statements. The only thing you've got on your plate is PURE speculation with a side order of hilariously flawed logic.

Yup, he carries them. He's even stated on panel one time, when using the Hypnotism Impulsor on two people, that he hasn't used the gadget in a long time. He expressed nostolgia for gadgets he rarely used before USING THEM. Irregular use =/= Absence of a gadget. If this same logic were applied to Tony, then he doesn't have any counter against telepathy. WOW, HOW ABOUT THAT?

How strong is the anti-molecular disintegrator? A question like this literally makes no sense since an anti-molecular DISINTEGRATOR doesn't use RAW FORCE to destroy a target. Provided, it cancels electrical energy that keeps molecules that form matter together, like a portable version of the Reality Bomb. Outside of CIS and plot, Tony is BONED.

He can also convert Tony into pure energy like he did with Nightmare here. Added with the Personal Adapter, which can drain virtually any amount of energy and any KIND of energy, Doom's arsenal vastly outguns Tony's.

Doom's armor not only drains energy, but reality warping powers as well, just like he did with Franklin Richards'. That feat alone is far more impressive than anything Tony has done.

Yes, it is.

Read the title. Now, read the description. It's says to name the most powerful superhero and supervillain and pit them against each other in battle and determine a winner. Characters ARE involved.

You are categorically wrong on both accounts.

It IS a battle thread, and yes, CHARACTERS are involved.

@powerwoman: TOAA is a neutral character like most cosmic beings.

@jedixman: Read the title.

Now read the description carefully.

Name the most powerful superhero and supervillain in the history of comic books of ALL TIME, and if they fought, who would come out on top?

Cool fan fiction, bro.

@sirnicktheepic: "he has a suit for every super and mutant in existence and out of existence"

Doom is prepared for every super-powered being in existence as well, except he is even more so.

Without prep, Doom could obliterate Tony with a single anti-molecular beam.

In a prep battle, Doom would shit-stomp Tony to oblivion.

@noone301994: Without magic? L.O.L.

Doom's anti-molecular disintegrator = Bye bye, Tony Stark

Doom's hypnotic impulsor = Tony becomes a drooling mind slave

Doom's personal adapter = Tony's armor gets drained quicker than a couple of rabbits can mate.

Plot and CIS are the only things that keeps Doom from outright killing Tony in canon.

Adding magick in his arsenal is overkill.

@jonatok19981998:

Doom killed Molecule Man, survived a mind-probe from the Beyonder, survived a blast from the Infinity Gauntlet, beat Cosmic Hulk and Skaar with ease, built a robot that could shame Hercules and Thor at the same time, etc.

Parallax isn't in the fight. If he was, Doom could bring out the Beyonder and fuck them both up easily.

Sinestro gets stomped.