Azathoth_The_Dread_Sleeper

Doom instantly obliterates Michael with PR Beyonder's powers.

Current Hercules dies a horrible death. Only if Doom plays stupid like he always does in the comics does Herc stand a chance.

Doom has went toe to toe with powerhouses like Cosmic Hulk and Skaar up close, and has even overpowered them with a combination of his tech and magic.

Thanos traps Thor in a block of pure force, just like when Thor was holding the Power Gem.

@fallen548:

Thanos wiped out an entire planet in battle with Drax, survived a point blank blast from Odin's Gungnir, regenerated from complete disintegration after being blown up by an anti-matter blast from Drax, survived an angry blast from the Maker (a conglomeration of the Beyonder and Molecule Man), humiliated a Power Gem holding Thor before trapping him in a block of pure force, etc.

If we're also going by Odin's statements, he actually tried to destroy the Earth to destroy Cul with it. Thanos, at his best, is a planet buster. If he used the amount of firepower he used in his fight with Drax, he could potentially kill Cul without a need for the Odin Sword. Thanos, unlike Cul, is completely immortal and literally unable to die. The Odin Sword would probably severely wound him before he heals, but wouldn't kill him, unlike what it did to Cul. In the TI arc, Thanos has been shown capable of dealing permanent death to functionally immortal beings. The Odin Sword wasn't the only way to kill Cul. Sufficient firepower can harm him and even kill him.

@ownagepants:

"better ones than thanos"

HARDLY. His only impressive feat was breaking Captain America's shield. That's it. Death denies Thanos, so Cul has absolutely no way of putting him down. Cul, on the other hand, is mortal like any other Asgardian. Odin even tried to destroy the Earth to kill Cul once and for all. Thanos once busted a planet with Drax. He's even able to KILL truly immortal beings. You do the math.

Cul has done absolutely nothing impressive, other than the fact that he can feed on mortal fear and turn into a giant building-sized snake. What's even dumber is the fact that Chthon, Dormammu, and Shuma-Gorath of ALL people were some of the demons who showed up at the meeting in the Infinite Embassy, to discuss Cul's supposed "threat". Inter-dimensional conquerors being afraid of a dilapidated skyfather who's barely planetary level? LOL, no. Cul has no way of killing Thanos, and I doubt he has any way of injuring the latter either.

Since OP doesn't specify whether this fight is to the death or not, Thanos takes this via incapacitating Cul. Thanos has a better track record of feats and his firepower is more than enough to knock the lights out of him.

@noone301994 said:

@azathoth_the_dread_sleeper:

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Too bad I didn't disagree with Iron Man having telepathy resistance anyway. LOL.

I was making fun of your painfully boneheaded logic which dictated that if Doom doesn't use a gadget a BAJILLION times, he doesn't "CARRY IT AROUND" (which is poorly worded way to describe Doom's connections to his armor weapons). I flipped that around on Iron Man using HIS telepathy resistance gadget less than often and applied the same logic. You even let the fact that your own arguments undermined your other arguments go WAY over your head. LOL.

He once walked around naked in Africa. Physical insecurity has nothing to do with intelligence.

Your reasonings are incredibly stupid.

Does Iron Man have counter-measures against being detached from electrical atomic bonding before being totally disintegrated?

Does he have counter-measures against having his whole body including his armor reduced to energy and getting sucked into Doom's suit?

"Most of the weapons Dooms does"

You literally can't any more broad and more VAGUE than a blanket, over-generalized statement like THAT.

Doom stomps.

@noone301994:

The OP says he is in Bleeding Edge and Bleeding edge has resistance to telepathy. I can post scans if you want.

Iron Man rarely encounters any telepaths, thus rarely shows that he has resistance to telepathy, and thus doesn't have resistance against telepathy, though. That's according to your logic.

Doom's armor is rich with dangerous weapons like the anti-molecular disintegrator, hypnotic impulser, personal adapter, field nullifier, etc. and is constantly upgrading. If we appealed to your constant flip-flopping and went with the opposite of the broken logic you were using, Doom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony (even with Bleeding Edge).

Yeah that's true but can you prove that he always carries those weapons around? That thing you said before about Doom saying, "I haven't used this in awhile" and having a nostalgic feeling isn't really evidence that he carries them around all the time.

He doesn't "CARRY" them around because they're built into his armor, which he ALWAYS wears, so of COURSE he'd ALWAYS have them. That's about as idiotic and semantically broken as saying "A GUY WEARING HIS JACKET IS CARRYING AROUND HIS ZIPPER AND BUTTONS". His anti-molecular force blaster, hypnotic impulser, personal adapter, field nullifier, etc. are PART and PARCEL with his suit. He's used them each on panel, and is shown to constantly be upgrading. The fact that he ALWAYS wears his armor is proof that he ALWAYS has them. The fact that he MENTIONS them nostalgically IS evidence that he has them. The fact that he USES it right after mentioning it is what destroys your argument completely. Tony, on the other hand, has never expressed nostalgia for his anti-telepathy gear and subsequently used them RIGHT after mentioning it like Doom did with his hypnotic impulser. LOL. Based on your logic, Doom has proof that he still has all his gears and Tony

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Yeah but what if he hadn't used magic in that situation? He was being stalemated. I'm pretty sure that eventually Iron Man would have overpowered him or Doom would have really struggled. THAT'S why I think he used magic. But it's speculation. Kind of like the whole, "he was just trying to scare him" bit.

Yeah, because like Odin's fight with Surtur, who was holding the Twilight Sword, Character-Induced-Stupidity took effect, which forced Doom to fight Tony conventionally rather than outright DESTROY him. You forgot to consider the fact that Marvel can't afford to lose major characters like Iron Man and has to enforce plot-induced restraining orders on powerful characters to keep them alive.

In the scan above, Doom kills a few defenseless people using magic. Because they TOTALLY would have overpowered Doom, if he hadn't. *Sarcasm*

Probably, but Iron Man has shields, nano-second reaction, and can you prove that he carries that around in random situations?

Doom has a Field Nullifier in his armor to disable Iron Man's shields. He disabled Invisible Woman's force-field powers with a simple backhand to her face, and once used it in Astonishing Tales #3 to take down an active force-field. Nano-second reaction won't protect Iron Man from getting his armor drained instantly.

Here, Doom uses his Personal Adapters to absorb energy from a machine that powered an entire city.

Here, Doom uses his Personal Adapters to absorb Franklin Richards' powers.

Doom uses his Personal Adapters to absorb the entirety of humanity's subconscious black energy.

Doom uses his Hypnotism Impulser to force the Thing into submission.

Doom uses it AGAIN here after mentioning it nostalgically.

Here, Richards narrowly dodges an anti-molecular force blast from Doom.

Doom has even built the same kind of weapon into Ultron to use it on Thor.

Doom humiliated multiple bloodlusted Hulks in just his standard armor. Tony needs a Hulkbuster to even stand a chance against ONE before getting humiliated.

Iron Man is outclassed here.