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If this is movie Magneto, then I'd have to go with the movie Avengers winning. Not outright, mind you, because I do see Captain America being made to eat his shield, Tony being crushed inside his titanium-gold alloy suit, and Black Widow and Hawkeye killed by the latter's arrows. This leaves Hulk and Thor. If countless energy blasts couldn't injure or kill Hulk in Avengers 1, then pummeling Hulk even with thousands of tons of metal is only going to slow him down and not for long. I see Thor hurling Mjolnir at Magneto from the start and Magneto shocked to find that it isn't affected by his magnetism. At this point, Magneto would evade, fly upwards, and hurl metal at the two remaining Avengers. That's when Thor calls in the thunder and lightning. One fried Holocaust survivor down for the count. If anyone's to blame, it's Singer for making movie Magneto so pathetic compared to his canon version.

If Erik does actually manage to prolong the battle, Hulk and Thor possess vastly superior healing and stamina and will eventually outlast him.

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#2  Edited By Axis_Mundi

Yes we know the Empire's military strength is massive and not to be underestimated. But the full military strength of Species 8472 has never been revealed. Their full war fleet MIGHT roughly equal or exceed the 25,000 Star Destroyers of the Empire. Can the Empire access the fluidic space realm of Species 8472 in order to launch counterattacks? I somehow doubt that so it's a one-way street in terms of axis of attack with 8472 launching attacks simultaneously throughout the Galaxy and keeping the Imperial Navy off-balance, with the military initiative firmly in the hands of 8472. These attacks could range from reconnaissance to full naval engagements to planets and whole systems destroyed by the bioships. Having said that, once Palpatine and Vader actively participate in the struggle, it could still be end up being a victory for the Empire because 8472 have no known defense against the dark side of the Force.

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This is a toughie for me...been a fan of both for decades. Magneto has predicted Nightcrawler's teleportation via its disruption of the magnetic force lines and I see no reason why Bison's warp doesn't as well. I doubt that Bison can hit harder than a point-blank nuclear detonation so Mag's shield should hold up against the Psycho Crusher and deflect easily Bison's Psycho Cannons.

Magneto can fry Bison's neural pathways with a massive EMP, saturate the battlefield with extreme levels of gamma radiation, or attempt full area electron bombardment (basically slamming electrons together thereby creating what are, in effect, concussive explosions capable of leveling city blocks and fusing sand into glass; only three to four electrons are required for such a blast and electrons are present in all atomic structures). I recommend Magneto begin absorbing the electromagnetic energies of the Sun, thereby increasing his powers and stamina to godlike levels. When you take all of his abilities in account and the vast possibilities that electromagnetism affords him, Magneto is a mutant who can literally tear the planet apart should he ever make up his mind to.

If Magneto can conduct the battle from space or just low orbit then he wins in my book.

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So no ripping-iron-from-blood power...okay. Also, the lightsaber's "metallic properties" are immune to Magneto's absolute control over metals and metallic alloys, etc. Also, like Bryan Singer, you leave out Magneto's force field. Right...

Here we go. I'm going to say that even without the contents within the Star Destroyer, Magneto wins at the start of the battle. Magneto's power is electromagnetism (though with more emphasis on magnetism) and photons fall WELL within that power. See that bright glowing sword, Max? Make it bend TOWARDS Maul.

Diamagnetism is part of Magneto's arsenal; not just part, it is intrinsic to magnetism. Scientists have conclusively proven that water is extremely diamagnetic by levitating a strawberry (even a frog) as recently as 2011 and as early as 2002. They reported that they used a mere 16 tesla to suspend the frog. Magneto can generate 200 tesla with barely a thought or furrowed brow. It takes millions upon millions of tesla to levitate a 30,000-ton nuclear submarine on dry land. Magneto raised it from the ocean floor where the water inside the vessel and the surrounding water pressure added even MORE weight. Maul's body contains water to some degree (I'm inclined to believe somewhere approaching a human's water content). Imagine all that raw power configured to a magnetic field shaped by Magneto's willpower seizing control of Maul's body. It wouldn't be just the water but the very minerals in Maul's flesh and bones that would be warped. Hell, his DNA itself would be mutated beyond repair.

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#5  Edited By Axis_Mundi

The only reason Marvel's Zeus was defeated by Mikaboshi at all was because Greg Pak had already decided that Mikaboshi was the Chaos King. If that wasn't the case, then by right the Almighty Thunderer and King of the Heavens would have decimated the invading Japanese hordes. Thunderbolts that easily humble Thor coupled with mystical and cosmic energies rivaling Odin should have been applied properly in the 2006 Ares storyline but because Pak had already decided beforehand who Mikaboshi REALLY WAS we got what we got in Ares.

Zeus is still my favourite deity.

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#6  Edited By Axis_Mundi

Thanos has returned but does he have Death's Curse and the massive power upgrades as before? If he does, then I pity Juggernaut for Mistress Death overwhelms Cyttorak's power. Thanos will either toy with Juggy or outright obliterate him, both to the detriment of their surrounding environment.

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Interaction with Hela and Surtur would be nice. Also, there is a "long and forgotten" portal betwixt Asgard and Olympus that should be included. Thor and Hercules could meet with Zeus breaking up their fight. This would also pave the way for a Hercules movie and him joining the Avengers. If Thor 2 goes this path then Thor 3 could show Loki tricking both Olympus and Asgard to war by swaying the will of Zeus. How awesome it would look on the silver screen for Zeus and Odin to stare at each other in "stony silence" in the clouds whilst the very cream of the forces clash below.

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@jloneblackheart: I agree with your assertion. Galactus being the source and ultimate dispenser of the Power Cosmic would actually further cement his position as The Balance of the Celestial Trinity of himself, Eternity/Infinity, and Death/Oblivion.

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I didn't get the issue but I saw the upload on Youtube. The only reason he lost was because he got distracted by his own thoughts regarding the Phoenix Force. There really wasn't anything stopping him from creating a magnetic field within Tony Stark's body strong enough to damage his organs due to the diamagnetic property of water. Again, substandard writing at best.

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@Djinn: Sigh...I know, I know. Zeus was worshipped as the All-Highest, Almighty, Invincible and All-Triumphant by the Hellenes (the foundation of the Western World) and the Romans (the greatest empire Europe had ever seen at the time). Although I don't myself worship him, he is my favourite Earth Godhead. According to Marvel's own official stats he could generate and wield vast amounts of mystical and cosmic energies, is able to will himself invincible, and rivals Odin in sheer power. As the Olympian God of Thunder, Lightning, Wisdom, Order and the Universe (the Romans really pushed his epithets to new dimensions and Saint Augustine himself supported them), I'm pretty sure if hard-pressed in battle against the Asgardians (however unlikely that will be storywise), I'm pretty certain it would be a stalemate. I just wish Marvel would really equalise all the pantheons to a larger degree than it has and display no further bias to any pantheon. But that's just me.

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