Avenging-X-Bolt

@avenging_x_bolt: With Tim Drake, I looked into him. Yeah, he got screwed too. But as far as changes he gets some upgrade, though something that made him unqiue was lost. I understand their lost for Tim Drake. And I meant with him being the sole leader AND founder so far. That irked me!

I looked into Jason more....and I gotta say....it came down right to the costume! As it turned out, I reread an earlier issue and it clicked in my head that he's wearing a former NIGHTWING costume with a jacket and a helment. And I thought he was rocking the red look all on his own at this point. No! It's was freaking Nightwing. He gets his costume! And then he gets Nightwing's villain, Deathstroke! NO WONDER I HAVENT SEEN HIM IN ANY NIGHTWING COMICS, CONSIDERING THEIR HISTORY!(Gone now). I swear,the things he got were from Dick's greatest qualities....to now even the costume from a perspective.

@degraaf: I've agreed with you at all points. And you're right: He does sometimes seems to be stumbling in his fights like Paragon or with other character who pose some significance(I blame the plot). He's always regarded to be second to Batman but shoot...sometimes, I have to remember the good things he's done cause the writers try hard to never make him look better then his mentor.

Another thing that irks me is that Tim Drake and Jason Todd get good upgrades. I mean, Tim Drake is still a Mary Sue and is now an Olympic Athlete?

Most Tim Drake fans would argue this is a step down (Tim being an average person who tworks his way up as an athlete and combatant was one of the things that made him unique and interesting.

And gets to lead the Teen Titans?

Not an upgrade. Tim was leading them pre-reboot

And Founder too!

got me there

Jason Todd benefitted from this the most. I mean, he's taking on Supernatual opponents in the Red Hood, gets Batman, All-Caste and League of Assassins Training from Lady Shiva.

completely agree

They can be, Dr. Doom, Spawn and Batman know how to rock the cape.

Agree

Superman's cape is iconic, so it's ok.

Agree

Shazam, Martian Manhunter, Thor and Robin shouldn't have a cape, they look ridiculous with one.

Disagree.

@avenging_x_bolt: was not on front page,

It was when i saw it. G-man ALWAYS puts his stuff on the front page. i guess it just got bumped with all the reviews and stuff.

besides still open ;-)

got me there. it doesn't really look lie the mods pay attention to this anymore

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