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Adam beats all pre justice league versions fairly easily. Post justice league vs Adam could go either way, and will depend on the person writing the script

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@sirfizzwhizz: I got to accept I don't know much about , Castlevania Dracula or Sacred Ancestor versions I assumed that they are about the same level as their marvel counterpart so I am not going to argue here. What surprises me is that you think that marvel dracular is above pretty much everyone on my list!

1. Fight with Doomsday and wbh will and up in an endless beating of dracula. Hardly can call it a win for dracula. He can't mind rape domsday or wbh(don't confuse with wwh) who has never being mind controlled, unless you believe that wbh = savage hulk.

2. Surfer and well wtritten thor are surely miles ahead by feats than dracula and should beat him eventually. PC supes includes silver age version so he would surely pull out some new powers out his ass to beat dracula.

3. Void and darkseid are just destroying marvel dracula with the latter making him his general.

4. With black adam, hyperion and plutonian could go either way or dracula could actually win (not before those guys kill him dozens of times) depending on how powerful his mind control powers are. Black adam should resist.

5. Classic strange could hang out with uneversal threats, dracula is going down as soon as strange takes it seriously.

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@foxerdes: sorry, but I have to answer. Did you just compare kurse beating thor to clark punching namek multiple times with no visible effect? Hell, he wasn't even knocked off his feet! All clark managed to do is just to push the brute back a little bit. In fact, you just proved yourself how strong and durable namek was. Very, very bad comparison.

As for loosing the fight: you can't even prove that he was hurt let alone was losing the fight. Actually, I would have a better chance to prove the opposite because for what we know from the movie it takes much more than that to hurt a kryptonian.

P.S. I am not denying that kal el would eventually beat the brute (he has speed edge and flight) but it would take much much more than what he actually did during the smallville fight and most likely would finish in a space toss.

P.P.S. I know you are not interested in a debate anymore so I apologize for answering here, but man your kurse/hulk argument made me do it.

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@foxerdes: I am glad we agreed on the strength part. It's pretty late where I live so I'll try to be short: 1. you can't assume that you won an argument by throwing gifs around, they may be useful in some debates but bring absolutely nothing to the table here as I already remember each move. Smallville scene is one of my favorite fighting scenes of all time. I appreciate the effort and the detailed answer though, mate ?

2. Your really need to rethink your definition of winning or losing. Namek was never koed or hurt, just bfred briefly. By your logic locomotive > supes and namek could come back and finish clark anytime if he didn't have to save faora. So you are really reaching here, mate if you think clark won the fight. I could go further and say that namek actually won/was about to win, but that would be reaching so I won't do that. My point stands.

3. Ragdolling argument was only used to prove my claim that he is physically stronger than clark, now that we both agree here I don't care much about it.

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@zetsumoto: I guess I should get familiar with the character first.

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Why bother with cosmic entities or reality warpers?

Domsday

Darkseid

WB Hulk

PC Supes

Sentry/Void

Well-written Thor, Black Adam, Hyperion, Silver Surfer

Plutonian

Classic Strange in a stomp

Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

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How is DD supposed to kill ares?

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@foxerdes: sometimes I use figurative language, sorry) unfortunately, it's not really important how you call it "no sold" or "took well". When someone takes 5 punches in a raw and a bullrush to his face without even trying to dodge I call it "no sold". No to mention, what affect did they have? He just shaked his head after being punched 5 times and moved back a bit after second bullrush. Just compare how faora and clark took each other's punches and you will understand what I mean. Nevertheless, everything I said still stands:

1. Namek is very strong, physically stronger than kal (he caught and ragdolled clark twice second time he just needed one hand, he stopped supes when superman was charging at him by just standing in his way, I mean what other proofs do you need?) It's clarks other powers like flight, heat vision and speed that might help him to beat or bfr the brute. Just imagine how would a wrestling match between those two go? I also doubt he could snap namek's neck in a same fashion he did to zod. He is not a better fighter like zod or faster like faora he is simply physically stronger than other kryptonians in the movie. End of discussion.

2. Namek's never lost the fight in fact his train toss was far more impressive than anything clark did to him considering the strength and precision needed to perform such a feat. Namek was never hurt at all.

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mcu hulk will be a problem for team 1. Vision's intangibility also. Thor has great destructive power via mjolnir. SW theoretically should bring some good hex to the table while hulkbuster and quicksilver (very slow compared to fox version) are non factor here.

Ww has sword that can cut through anyone and supes has insane durability to take whatever team 2 can dish out. The speed also goes to dc

This is not a stomp in anyone's favor.