arnoldoaad

oh no! they killed Professor X

AGAIN

And Tom Brevoort said,"This is about as serious and lasting a death as you're apt to get in one of these."

my honest response

a serious death in marvel!

what a wacky concept

he will be back in a year

why is there a Ben 10 forum here?

[URL="http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/oancitizen/between-the-lines/35982-between-the-lines-batman"]Batman - Between the Lines[/URL]

This came out over a month ago but i just saw it and

well it seems to be an interesting topic

An excellent analysis of what Batman is as a concept around the world in time, inside and outside the comics

just a 6mins video but really worth watching if you are a batman fan

@BlackArmor:

i agree with your point on the fact hat it was just 20 pages, but it was still too fast paced and thats one of the few problems that the ongoing has, its goes way too fast and there is very little to dig into, with that said i do think that this could had been more about Superman/batman/WW, cause after all, they are in the cover

And one of the biggest problems that Robinson has in his recent writings is that he tends to make heroes and villains completely unbeatable making them kind of dull, he had that problem with Prometheus in C4J, with pretty much every single villain in JLA, with Captain Atom in the cofeature he wrote, and with the Outsider in his flashpoint-mini, and Terry fall into the same problem here. He is made completely superprepared for every single thing cause pretty much the plot moving around him and is not him who is moving the plot.

so even if this was rush or if there was not enough space it doesnt justify it, its still just not a good comic to be rate as a 7, much less an 8

and also as an 0 issue it just fail to deliver an origin story for E2, it had pretty much nothing to do with what is currently happening in the book, it doesnt serve as a good introduction to the book or universe at all, its kinda like a 0 issue in the sense that it has stuff before issue 1 but that again is a problem cause nothing that happens on issue 1 to Superman/WW/Batman has relevance in the story, it is more of a prologue than anything else

@BlackArmor said:

@arnoldoaad: He definitely ended up having large similarities to Ozymandias but I don't think he was a straight up rip off, I also see why he did what he did even though you have to make some assumptions to really get it. I think that in preparation to the raid he studied the people who were infected and found that they couldn't be saved, he then reasoned that they could only be used as an army for their enemies or take up the world's time taking care of them if they were successfully separated (but note not freed from) Apokolips's control. Since they couldn't be saved and could only be used against the good guys he decided to blow them up for the greater good. Even if my assumptions are wrong it is stated that they can't be saved even by earth's greatest (allegedly) mind and maybe that was reason enough for him to off them

I think your assumption is correct, but we are still only told that he saw no other way, instead of showing us that there was no other way

with Watchmen we can understand the whole motivation of Ozymandias, and during the entire comic the whole presence and inevitability of the nuclear war is always a given and explore through all of it

but here we are told that Terry saw several possible futures, and in most of those futures they lost because the ppl cant be saved, but im not sold on that

the problem lies in the fact that Robinson wants to create an ambiguous figure, a person who like Ozymandias, it depends on your point of view whatever he is a villain or not

but Terry is not that, he is a villain and there is absolutely no doubt about it, so that dialog at the end is a little forced

and the most disappointed part of the comic is that i was really expecting more about Earth 2, things about Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman

they are not important in the comic at all, it was all about how evil and mad Terry Sloan is, and for me it fail on that regard.

@BlackArmor:

I just didnt like how Terry became an Ozymandias ripoff, the idea was that he did what he did cause it was the only way to save the world, but doesnt show why is it the only way possible and it also doesnt makes much sense to me, it just tells us but dont show us

and i would had preferred if this issue had explored more on Atom, Hawkgirl or something else, it felt like a filler issue more than anything

@stumpy49er: @DoomDoomDoom said:

@stumpy49er said:

Great post! Curious to see which were your 10 best.

/\ I was thinking that exact same thing. The only one of these I actually read was Mister Terrific. However I did read Savage Hawkman and Deathstroke (up until Liefeld took over the latter).

@DoomDoomDoom said:

@stumpy49er said:

Great post! Curious to see which were your 10 best.

/\ I was thinking that exact same thing. The only one of these I actually read was Mister Terrific. However I did read Savage Hawkman and Deathstroke (up until Liefeld took over the latter).

the top ten list is over here

www.comicvine.com/dc-comics/57-10/the-first-year-of-the-relaunch-the-best-10-comics/92-692684/

Im new at comicvine i have to confess that the structure of the forum is kind of confusing but i like the idea of having blog posts too

Worst: A.J. Lieberman

Best: Loeb/Dixon/Morrison

Potential: Fialkov, Lemire