BC Rumors: Big Creative changes, Simone leaves Bg and others

Big Creative changes to come in the next few months

Just as I was about to run the story about the Villains Month at DC Comics yesterday, I received an e-mail from an anonymous source that not only backed up everything I’d heard from good sources about that project but added some new details about DC right now, some of which I’d heard (and was planning a story for today) and some of which I hadn’t.

This includes a list of titles that from issues 18, 19 and 20 will see all the writers leave, and some of the artists.

batgirl, birds of prey, dark knight, flash, hawkman, swamp thing

Source

my reaction to this:

GAIL SIMONE TO LEAVE BATGIRL

sadly Not soon enough, my opinion of batgirl as a book and a character cannot possibly be worse

and my opinion of Gail's recent work cannot be lower either, Firestorm was a piece of **** but Batgirl was 10 times worse

this news are way more exciting than seeing Liefled leave DC

SCOTT SNYDER LEAVING SWAMP THING

Scott being in Swamp thing is one of the few predictions that i made with the New 52 and got fullfill, and its one of the best titles every month

I really cannot imagine the title without him but i hope it gets a fine replacement, here hoping for China miev or

The rest, well I guess Birds of Prey has not been good for a while and I have talk about its problems, I really dont know why it didnt got a change sooner, but im not surprised concidering how much editorial interference this has been getting since the beginning

Dark Knight, i really liked Hurwittz run so far, dont know why he is being replaced so soon, or why, being a title that focusses on the villains and seeing the Brilliant job that Hurwitz did with Penguin i dont think the book needs a change right now, dont know what to think of this

Flash, I really dont know, i been liking it so far, but it is just an average book, i really want to know who will write it though i hope manapul stays in the art department

and who really cares about Hawkman? Im actually very surprised that its not cancelled

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38 Comments
38 Comments
Posted by Zeeguy91

Dude. Bleeding Cool? Really? You scared me for a second because I thought you had a credible source.

Posted by arnoldoaad

@Zeeguy91 said:

Dude. Bleeding Cool? Really? You scared me for a second because I thought you had a credible source.

there is also a confirmation that Gail's exclusivity contract expires around that time

and the leave of Duane from BoP was already verified

so it is a credible source

Posted by Juandicimo_Magnifico45

@Zeeguy91 said:

Dude. Bleeding Cool? Really? You scared me for a second because I thought you had a credible source.

Posted by arnoldoaad

So

I guess no one wants to discuss the possibility that the titles change writers

Posted by JLDoom

What? Oh man I hope Manapul and Buccellato dont leave Flash! Gorilla Warfare has been so awesome!

Posted by SandMan_

Swamp Thing and Flash???

Posted by Twentyfive

I want to see who is going to replace Katana in the BoP series. Don't care about B:TDK.

Sad about Swamp thing.

Posted by Jonny_Anonymous

@Zeeguy91: @Juandicimo_Magnifico45: Every single prediction Bleeding Cool have made about the New 52 so far as been true

Posted by MrShway88

@Zeeguy91: What's wrong with with Bleeding Cool?

Posted by arnoldoaad

@Twentyfive said:

I want to see who is going to replace Katana in the BoP series. Don't care about B:TDK.

Sad about Swamp thing.

Katana was replaced by Talon Mary from Batgirl 9, probably to increase sales

@SandMan_ said:

Swamp Thing and Flash???

yeah

I think China Mieville or Azzarello could do a good job with Swamp Thing

@JLDoom said:

What? Oh man I hope Manapul and Buccellato dont leave Flash! Gorilla Warfare has been so awesome!

I would say it is the best that the title has been so far, but it is not that big

Manapul is an artist, not a writer, i want to see what a big writer can do with Flash now

I would love someone like Brian Q Miller here

Posted by JLDoom

@arnoldoaad said:

@JLDoom said:

What? Oh man I hope Manapul and Buccellato dont leave Flash! Gorilla Warfare has been so awesome!

I would say it is the best that the title has been so far, but it is not that big

Manapul is an artist, not a writer, i want to see what a big writer can do with Flash now

I would love someone like Brian Q Miller here

Meh, I really like what Manapul and Buccellato have done so far

I dont know who Brian Q Miller is, so I cant comment on that choice

Posted by Twentyfive

@arnoldoaad: Wow. I thought the Talons were really bad. But I must admit, I don't read that series.

Thanks.

Posted by Mercy_

IIRC Simone's been dropping hints on her Tumblr about working on other stuff. I honestly hope that Batgirl ends up getting cancelled. I hate the character regression. If I were going to choose anybody to write Babs as Batgirl it'd be Simone, she's the definitive Barbara Gordon writer and has such an obvious love and understanding of the character, but it was an overall poor move on DC's part. Although that's no shocker, the overall theme of the DCnU seems to be character regression (or straight up erasing characters) all in the name of being cool and hip again. Heaven forbid any of our favorite mainstream heroes were married with kids (obviously there are the exceptions to this in Animal Man and Aquaman).

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Posted by arnoldoaad

@JLDoom said:

@arnoldoaad said:

@JLDoom said:

What? Oh man I hope Manapul and Buccellato dont leave Flash! Gorilla Warfare has been so awesome!

I would say it is the best that the title has been so far, but it is not that big

Manapul is an artist, not a writer, i want to see what a big writer can do with Flash now

I would love someone like Brian Q Miller here

Meh, I really like what Manapul and Buccellato have done so far

I dont know who Brian Q Miller is, so I cant comment on that choice

Im not saying they have done a bad job, they havent and i have enjoy it, but i just know a better writer would make the book better

is just like Batwoman, I love what JH Williams have been done with the book, but I just know that the book would be much better if Rucka was still aboard

and Brian Q Miller was the writer of Stephanie Brown's Batgirl and current writer of the Smallville ongoing, he has a good sense of humor and a writing style similar to what Manapul has been trying to do for the book, so it wont get a drastic change of tone

@Twentyfive said:

@arnoldoaad: Wow. I thought the Talons were really bad. But I must admit, I don't read that series.

Thanks.

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@Mercy_ said:

IIRC Simone's been dropping hints on her Tumblr about working on other stuff. I honestly hope that Batgirl ends up getting cancelled. I hate the character regression. If I were going to choose anybody to write Babs as Batgirl it'd be Simone, she's the definitive Barbara Gordon writer and has such an obvious love and understanding of the character, but it was an overall poor move on DC's part. Although that's no shocker, the overall theme of the DCnU seems to be character regression (or straight up erasing characters) all in the name of being cool and hip again. Heaven forbid any of our favorite mainstream heroes were married with kids (obviously there are the exceptions to this in Animal Man and Aquaman).

I agree 100%

last thing i heard from Simone is that she was working with EVS on a Horror Plasticman miniseries that would be outside of continuty

Posted by Video_Martian

Sad about Flash...

Edited by Ironhawk22

I like how everyone is saying BC isn't credible yet like 95% of the time they end up being right. Good news about Batgirl. Why, you ask. Not a big fan of the book and maybe the return of...

Wishful thinking? Of course it is, but if it happened I'd be so darn happy.

PLEASE GAIL! PLEASE BRING THEM BACK!

I'm shocked by this, Gail is like Mercy said the definitive Babs writer.

Posted by jrock85

@Mercy_ said:

IIRC Simone's been dropping hints on her Tumblr about working on other stuff. I honestly hope that Batgirl ends up getting cancelled. I hate the character regression. If I were going to choose anybody to write Babs as Batgirl it'd be Simone, she's the definitive Barbara Gordon writer and has such an obvious love and understanding of the character, but it was an overall poor move on DC's part. Although that's no shocker, the overall theme of the DCnU seems to be character regression (or straight up erasing characters) all in the name of being cool and hip again. Heaven forbid any of our favorite mainstream heroes were married with kids (obviously there are the exceptions to this in Animal Man and Aquaman).

I've noticed for a while now that she seems to be growing disillusioned with DC. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if she left.

Posted by arnoldoaad

@Ironhawk22 said:

I'm shocked by this, Gail is like Mercy said the definitive Babs writer.

I guess the problem comes with the idea that this is no longer the same Barb that she was writing about before

and also she does a much better job with team books than with Solos for the simple reason that she has more characters to bounce of one to the other

but with batgirl 90% is about Batgirl, and not Barbara Gordon, it is not the same perpective that we have when she was Oracle, and on top of that, Gail just had never write Batgirl before

so thats why the whole mental regression is just not working in the character, she is trying to write her as a mature person and at the same time Not, by making her batgirl

she trying to mature by reclaiming a mantle from her teens, but that is not a sign of maturity, is a sign of regression

Posted by arnoldoaad

BTW, the recent comments on Gail's tumblr talk about her getting the chance to write an iconic female character she's neverwritten before

and I honestly cant think of anyone from DC who meets that description, so its probable that she goes to Marvel

Posted by SmashBrawler

Ugh, Manapul and Buccellato leaving Flash and Snyder leaving Swamp Thing are horrible news, especially the latter since I like Snyder's ST run far more than I like his Batman run.

Posted by arnoldoaad

@SmashBrawler said:

Ugh, Manapul and Buccellato leaving Flash and Snyder leaving Swamp Thing are horrible news, especially the latter since I like Snyder's ST run far more than I like his Batman run.

I just got confirmation that Manapul and Buccellano are not permanently leaving

they are only out for issues 18-19 and then they will be back for a 6 chp arc with reverse flash

Posted by Billy Batson

Does this mean Batgirl will be worth the read?
Snyder is most likely leaving Swamp Thing when he hasn't said anything about continuing writing the series.
Yeah, pretty sure that Manapul and Buccelatto are only leaving for a few issues.
BB

Posted by Zeeguy91

@arnoldoaad: @MrShway88: I've just seen them report a lot of mistruths in the past. Plus I remember once I checked out an article on their website, and I remember that it literally turned into jibberish. I was afraid it was gonna give me a virus. Plus, Bleeding Cool also said Geoff Johns was leaving Aquaman, and I've heard from other sources that he's not.

Posted by Zeeguy91

@Twentyfive said:

I want to see who is going to replace Katana in the BoP series. Don't care about B:TDK.

Sad about Swamp thing.

Well, even in the article, it says that Snyder "is juggling so many projects that leaving Swamp Thing may be his only choice." I wouldn't call that a confirmation that he's leaving Swamp Thing.

Posted by SmashBrawler

@arnoldoaad said:

@SmashBrawler said:

Ugh, Manapul and Buccellato leaving Flash and Snyder leaving Swamp Thing are horrible news, especially the latter since I like Snyder's ST run far more than I like his Batman run.

I just got confirmation that Manapul and Buccellano are not permanently leaving

they are only out for issues 18-19 and then they will be back for a 6 chp arc with reverse flash

Oh, that's great. I thought it was kinda weird that they were going to leave the Reverse Flash thing abandoned.

Still sad about Snyder leaving Swamp Thing, though.

Posted by Billy Batson

Simone also confirmed that she's not going to leave Batgirl :(
BB

Posted by arnoldoaad

@Zeeguy91 said:

@Twentyfive said:

I want to see who is going to replace Katana in the BoP series. Don't care about B:TDK.

Sad about Swamp thing.

Well, even in the article, it says that Snyder "is juggling so many projects that leaving Swamp Thing may be his only choice." I wouldn't call that a confirmation that he's leaving Swamp Thing.

See, this is kind of the problem with some people on Bleeding Cool

In this topic, I never said it was a confirmation on all of those

and neither did the site

this are Rumors, and as that are subjected to alot of variants, but some people literally take them as facts and when it happens differently they say that the site was wrong

For example when BC put that rumor mill for the New 52 on of the titles of the first wave was JSA by James Robinson, that didnt happen until the second wave, but ppl are not thinking is that he was actually correct in that James Robinson was going to write a book about the JSA

the same thing happen with Katana, he put that she was getting an ongoing for zero month, it was actually for 4th wave, its just details

And he did predicted correctly that Ivan Reis was leaving Aquaman

@Billy Batson said:

Simone also confirmed that she's not going to leave Batgirl :(
BB

Actually she only put in her message board

I have not left Batgirl.

Not that she is not leaving or she is not going to leave, or it could even mean that she didnt left voluntarily but was fired, it is too ambiguous and i was honestly not expecting a confirmation of anything soon

and if she was indeed saying that the rumor of BC is wrong then she would had been more explicit about it or confirmed it yesterday instead of just saying that stuff of Deathstroke

Posted by Stormbox

I wonder wholl take over the dark knight?

Posted by Mr_Holmes

I don't mind Snyder leaving Swamp Thing. It really just feels like a less innovative version of Moore's Swamp Thing. The production values are good, but he's not really adding anything new. I'm hoping China Mieville gets to do his run if this happens (which seems likely anyhow).

Posted by arnoldoaad

@Mr_Holmes said:

I don't mind Snyder leaving Swamp Thing. It really just feels like a less innovative version of Moore's Swamp Thing. The production values are good, but he's not really adding anything new. I'm hoping China Mieville gets to do his run if this happens (which seems likely anyhow).

either him or Azzarello seem the logical choice to replace Snyder

but I dont know how likely are either or those to be the final replacement

It could be someone new and unexpected

Posted by redhoodnet

I hope that Gail gets to stay on Batgirl. I may be in the minority but I really have enjoyed her run there. Plus I am really looking forward to her kickstarter project Leaving Megaoplis.

Posted by arnoldoaad

@redhoodnet said:

I hope that Gail gets to stay on Batgirl. I may be in the minority but I really have enjoyed her run there.

ok you like the current Batgirl

I have no idea whay but thats fine

However, why do you want her to stay on the chance that a better writer might come in and do something better?

Is it the victim angle? do you want it to stay just like that?

Posted by SmashBrawler
Posted by arnoldoaad

New Information

Simone is NOT going to write issues 17 and 18, despite having the solicits of issue 17

and there are rumors of certain problems with editorial

Source

Not good enough, but still good news

Posted by SUNMAN

good news for Batgirl. Bad news for Swamp Thing. I'm indifferent on the rest

Posted by SupBatz

@arnoldoaad said:

I guess the problem comes with the idea that this is no longer the same Barb that she was writing about before

and also she does a much better job with team books than with Solos for the simple reason that she has more characters to bounce of one to the other

but with batgirl 90% is about Batgirl, and not Barbara Gordon, it is not the same perpective that we have when she was Oracle, and on top of that, Gail just had never write Batgirl before

so thats why the whole mental regression is just not working in the character, she is trying to write her as a mature person and at the same time Not, by making her batgirl

she trying to mature by reclaiming a mantle from her teens, but that is not a sign of maturity, is a sign of regression

Ain't that the truth. I never really thought of it that way but I agree - I like Simone's work on team books but have not been a fan of her current Batgirl.

Posted by briangsharon

@Stormbox said:

I wonder wholl take over the dark knight?

?

Where did it say Greg is leaving?

Posted by arnoldoaad

@SupBatz said:

@arnoldoaad said:

I guess the problem comes with the idea that this is no longer the same Barb that she was writing about before

and also she does a much better job with team books than with Solos for the simple reason that she has more characters to bounce of one to the other

but with batgirl 90% is about Batgirl, and not Barbara Gordon, it is not the same perpective that we have when she was Oracle, and on top of that, Gail just had never write Batgirl before

so thats why the whole mental regression is just not working in the character, she is trying to write her as a mature person and at the same time Not, by making her batgirl

she trying to mature by reclaiming a mantle from her teens, but that is not a sign of maturity, is a sign of regression

Ain't that the truth. I never really thought of it that way but I agree - I like Simone's work on team books but have not been a fan of her current Batgirl.

yeah, she does a very poor job with solos, Firestorm and Wonder Woman

@briangsharon said:

@Stormbox said:

I wonder wholl take over the dark knight?

?

Where did it say Greg is leaving?

Its juts a rumor at this point