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#1 Posted by Anjales (405 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_dont_like_comics: Sure why not? Here's my guess. The movie starts off right after Spidey has just defeated Rhino who vows revenge. A brief backstory into who he is is enough establishment and we now know why he hates Spidey. There's one down. Then the rest of the movie will devoted to Osborn handpicking each member of the team and giving us insight into who each of them is. Specifically, they can focus a bit on Uncle Ben's killer and the Parker assassin, aka Scorpion and Chameleon respectively. And also you can give a spotlight on Kraven, have him stand out from the rest. The movie explores the dynamic between these guys and ends with them about to launch their attack on Spidey. No one can really blame you for being skeptical about this movie, as it is a risky idea, but if it follows an Ocean's 11 type vibe with a super-villain twist, it has potential to work. That's my guess at least.

#2 Edited by Anjales (405 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_dont_like_comics: I see your point, but isn't the reason a Sinister Six movie is made is to give these a guys proper screen time and backstories in order to establish them, something that they won't be afforded in the third Spider-Man movie? I think a 2 hour movie is enough to give 6 villains enough establishment, and then the following Spidey movie deals directly with the ensuing battle with the main character.

#3 Posted by Anjales (405 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:
@anjales said:

In order for a Kraven's Last Hunt inspired movie to work, Kraven needs to be the central villain of the movie, and let's face it, it doesn't seem to be the case. The previous movie all but teased that the next movie will feature the sinister six as the main villains, with the Goblin being their leader. Sony seems so determined on the idea that they're even giving them their own movie. The Sinister Six movie will probably give the villains their motivations and origin stories in order to establish them, and the next ASM movie will feature the main conflict with Spidey. Kraven's Last Hunt can only work if Kraven is his own man, and not part of a large group. I can see Harry pulling the strings, but Kraven should mainly work alone for this story to work. Now, it is possible that they can make Kraven the villain of ASM3 with Harry subtly pulling the string, and then in the end of the movie, Harry comes in with the rest of the villains, setting up the conclusion of the overall story in ASM4 (which apparently Andrew Garfield and Marc Webb don't seem to be attached to yet). Still I doubt they'd go with that direction, and the story can work but they have to make a lot of changes.

Appreciate you taking the time for that response! Well, this article is based on the idea that Kraven is given his introduction and a wee bit of development in Sinister Six. I think his time with that team could motivate him to pursue his own goals and almost prove he's "superior" to the others. If they do make SS a mostly Spider-Man-free movie, then yeah, ASM 3 will likely be vs that team, and KLH could work for ASM 4. It's still unclear how they're handling the future but honestly, it's tough for me to imagine they'd move forward with SS without Spider-Man being in it (perhaps that's where they'd introduce MJ, too). But we shall see!

Trust me, I would much prefer it if they went with the way you proposed, but realistically speaking, and I really hate to be a downer, I just don't see them actually focusing on one of the villains of the Six besides Goblin. There's just way too much ground to cover and unresolved plots from the past two movies. The mystery of Uncle Ben's Killer, the mysterious man who visited Connors and Harry, whether or not Norman Osborn is really dead, the aftermath of Gwen's death, the introduction of MJ, whether or not Felicia ends up becoming Black Cat and if the rumors are true the female led Spider-Woman movie, the rumored Venom movie and the possible introduction of Carnage. There was also a deleted scene where Peter's dad is revealed to be actually alive! With all that going on, do you think there is enough time to put the spotlight on one of the Six villains? They haven't even confirmed ASM4, and ASM3's direction is still uncertain, not to mention the other rumored spinoffs. From the impression that I got Andrew Garfield isn't involved in anything besides ASM3, I feel like it will focus on the villains with Spidey possibly making some cameos here and there, probably in CGI.

However, as I was writing this post several thoughts came to mind on how they can tie some of these plots together. I was going to post ithere, but since it seemed too long and drifted away from the topic I just decided to give its own thread in the Spider-Man forum here on the Vine. Check it out if you can I would love to read your thoughts.

http://www.comicvine.com/spider-man/4005-1443/forums/sinister-six-movie-and-beyond-theories-1597897/

#4 Posted by Anjales (405 posts) - - Show Bio

As most of you probably know, Sony is planning on doing a Sinister Six movie that will lead into ASM3 which takes place in 2018 I believe. The last two movies have been teasing the six a lot, and at the same time

There are a lot of unresolved plots that need to be covered. The mystery of Uncle Ben's Killer, the mysterious man who visited Connors and Harry, whether or not Norman Osborn is really dead, the aftermath of Gwen's death, the introduction of MJ, whether or not Felicia ends up becoming Black Cat and if the rumors are true the female led Spider-Woman movie, the rumored Venom movie and the possible introduction of Carnage. There was also a deleted scene where Peter's dad is revealed to be actually alive!

Several thoughts came to mind on how they can tie some of these plots together.

Since Uncle Ben's killer is still on the loose, he may end up becoming one of the Sinister Six, maybe Scorpion? I know he has ties with Jameson, but it doesn't seem to be the direction they're going with. The killer is revealed to be named Mac Gargan, a petty crook who has been in hiding knowing that Spider-Man has been asking around about him (in ASM1). Oscorp may somehow capture Gargan, and knowing the fact that he killed Peter's uncle, the Green Goblin may want to use this to torture Peter. and turns the guy who caused him so much pain into a species that can kill a spider, the Scorpion.

Doc Ock, Rhino and Vulture are basically confirmed, so is Kraven based on the hidden end credits. So now we have Uncle Ben's Killer, Ock, Rhino, Vulture, the mysterious man who visited Harry (possibly Mysterio or Chameleon), and of course Goblin.

Thinking about it more, I think that the mysterious guy is actually the same guy who tried to assassinate the Parkers. I know it's far fetched given the plane crash, but since they seemed to have planned Richard Parker's survival at some point, it isn't too far fetched that the assassin survived too. They may remove Richard's survival, and only the assassin managed to stay alive since we didn't see him actually die. They may reveal that he survived but his face was disfigured and so he becomes the faceless Chameleon, and he's using a disguise to visit Lizard and Harry in Prison. Also the mysterious guy seems to have ties to Oscorp, and since the assassin seemed to work for Osborn as well, it isn't too far fetched that he's one and the same. So now, Three members of the Sinister Six have killed someone dear to Peter; Goblin killed Gwen, Chameleon killed his parents and you have Uncle Ben's killer who may end up becoming Scorpion. This makes the battle with the Six more personal. Ock, Vulture and Rhino will be fodder, the guys who Spidey beats up to look strong before the emotional battles with the people who killed his loved ones. I believe those last three will be fodder for the following reasons:

- Since the original SM2 featured Doc Ock as the main villain with a critically acclaimed performance, I doubt they'll re-visit him again as a top tier villain, and let's face it, it's gonna be pretty hard to top Alfred Molina.

- Vulture has rarely been the type of villain who could carry his own story, he's just the guy who Spidey will have a visually strong aerial battle with. I know he's had his big stories here and there, but unless they plan on going with the idea that was told in some stories where he tries to absorb Spider-Man's life energy to keep himself young, something that I doubt will be explored in the movies, he'll be nothing more than old guy in a fancy looking bird suit

- Rhino has been portrayed as a Jobber since his inception (up until 2011's Gauntlet where he finally became a serious villain). And since he was the first to show up and based on Paul Giomatti's performance, I doubt he'll be more than comic relief and Spidey's punching bag.

And finally there's the wildcard Kraven who the director has stated he wants to use, and he was teased in the credits. Now, the Green Goblin may not be an official member of the SS, he's just the big bad who's pulling the strings behind the scenes, so the Six may be Scorpion, Chameleon, Ock, Vulture, Rhino and Kraven, with the latter being the most spotlighted villain of all of them. They may do a story where he turns on them because he believes that he's superior to them, and may give Spidey the key that allows him to overcome them. He may even try to manipulate Spidey into killing Chameleon or Scorpion to avenge his uncle and parents, in order to bring out his dark side. That way you have a set up for a Kraven's Last Hunt type story in the next ASM movie where Kraven is the main villain, and Peter's morality is put to the test. I mean let's face it, if you're going to use Kraven in a blockbuster movie, you might as well use the story that put him on the map as a top tier Spider-Villain as inspiration, anything less would be a missed opportunity.

As for MJ, she may simply be the damsel in distress who the villains try to use to lure Peter into a trap. Felicia will probably just help Spidey in his final battle with the Goblin (assuming she appears at all, I don't think she'll become Black Cat), it seems that using Norman Osborn as a main villain has been scrapped based on some of the deleted scenes

#5 Posted by Anjales (405 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man is depicted as having one of the strongest wills in comics, but is he worthy of holding a Green Lantern Ring? What can Spidey do with it? How will it affect him? Can he be the GL of Earth?

"With Great Power comes Great Responsibility. Beware my Power!"

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This guy.

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- Grotesk

- War Crimes

- Dark Knight, Dark City

- Faces of Death

- The Cult

- Cycle of Violence

- The Joker Graphic Novel

- Arkham Asylum

- Batman RIP (especially the Joker parts)

- The Imposter Wars

#8 Posted by Anjales (405 posts) - - Show Bio

In order for a Kraven's Last Hunt inspired movie to work, Kraven needs to be the central villain of the movie, and let's face it, it doesn't seem to be the case. The previous movie all but teased that the next movie will feature the sinister six as the main villains, with the Goblin being their leader. Sony seems so determined on the idea that they're even giving them their own movie. The Sinister Six movie will probably give the villains their motivations and origin stories in order to establish them, and the next ASM movie will feature the main conflict with Spidey. Kraven's Last Hunt can only work if Kraven is his own man, and not part of a large group. I can see Harry pulling the strings, but Kraven should mainly work alone for this story to work. Now, it is possible that they can make Kraven the villain of ASM3 with Harry subtly pulling the string, and then in the end of the movie, Harry comes in with the rest of the villains, setting up the conclusion of the overall story in ASM4 (which apparently Andrew Garfield and Marc Webb don't seem to be attached to yet). Still I doubt they'd go with that direction, and the story can work but they have to make a lot of changes.

#9 Posted by Anjales (405 posts) - - Show Bio

If that scene where Arrow stabs Komodo in the eye does take place in the show I will laugh out loud cuz that would be the third guy Ollie has put an Arrow through the eye in the show.

#10 Posted by Anjales (405 posts) - - Show Bio

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