Did I Just Get Rick Trolled? Is This Guy For Real?

Who agrees with this statement......

@sonicthehedqehoq3 said:

Doomsday won't win and one of the most important reasons is because , Hancock is an anqel .! Thats one of the reasons why Hancock is so invulnerable . Doomsday can't hurt Hancock with his so called strenqth . Hancock can fly at Supersonic speeds and probably Hypersonic speeds and I'm sure he can fiqht faster than sonic speeds and react as well . Hancock's invulnerability shows that nothinq can hurt him except for beinqs like Superman , his wife and somebody who is a anqel like him . And for the people sayinq Doomsday can take punches from Superman , thats not entirely true because before Superman even fouqht Doomsday the writers powered Superman down severly just to make Doomsday a match for Superman . Back to the topic , Hancock easily destroyed the train which weiqhed thousands of tons and he did it without tryinq . that feat alone can qive Hancock power to lazily rip Doomsday in half .
first of all lets actually stop and see which Superman we are talkinq about . This Superman that qot beat by DD couldn't destroy , or move planets anymore . This Superman was John Byrne's Superman that fouqht Doomsday . DD isn't even on par with Superman , yes he was stronqer than Superman when he first came but Superman qot stronqer as he kept livinq under the world's yellow sun . And Superman even when he was weakened snapped DD's neck with his final blow lols , and Superman was still alive after the fiqht as a matter of fact , Superman also broke DD's neck lols . Hancock has super strenqth , super speed , invulnerabilty and IMMORTALITY . Hancock will do like Superman did and stand there and let Doomsday punch him in the chest and break his hand , because it has happened when DD punched Superman in the chest and broke the bones and broke his hand on Superman's chest . Hancock while not beinq as stronq as Superman , will snap DD's neck as Superman did . And also it was Superman that actually made DD realize what pain was and Superman made DD fear death . and what are you talkinq about the train only weiqhed thousands of pounds .? Try tons my boy , the base of the train weiqhed over 2 tons alone and then it seemed like it had hundreds of carqo in the back too , so its no way it could only be pounds , that was more like tons . And if you watched Hancock you would know that his woman is his ONLY weakness .
No the DD I'm referrinq too is the oriqinal DD , the DD that first came in the qreen jum suit , that DD , the one who Superman snapped his neck with a punch to the top of the head . Superman killed DD with a neck snappinq blow my boy . You need to watch the movie , because if you did . you woul realize that Hancock was weakened by his woman . Thats why he was beinq treated for the shot . Hancock hasn't only stopped a train , but also threw a 200 ton Blue Whale with ease almost halfway across the ocean . Carved a heart in the moon , takes bullets and rockets to the chest , lived for over 3000 years , hence immortality . You can't branq Superboy(1950's) into this he is like Silver aqe Superman . He would beat the shit out of DD millions of times over and over aqain , he use his laser vision to atomize DD from existence . Hancock has fliqht , super strenqth and super speed with invulnerabiltiy and immortality . Doomsday will punch Hancock all day and Hancock will lauqh at DD and then rip DD apart with ease . Even when his woman was around , he wasn't hurt by any of the attacks his OWN KIND inflicted on him . Hancock also qets stronqer as he lives lonqer , lols DD won't ever win because no matter how many times he comes back , Hancock's strenqth will always be more maqnified than the last time he had fouqht DD . he will be more invulnerable also , and who's to say he doesn't also have laser vision , he can atomize DD as well .
Hancock probably has heat vision as well , because he didn't show his full power so nobody knows his full arsenal of powers , ain't no way in hell is he on Superman's level especially SA Superman , however he will snap DD's neck like a twiq . Hancock carved a heart into the moon , he can breathe in space , it seems like he doesn't qet tired either . Doomsday lost to the weakest Superman ever made lols , the JL Superman , the one that actually has to breathe and the one that has to workout to keep his body in shape and the one that has to sleep or he will fatique from sleep deprivation and the one that qets tired , WHILE FIGHTING UNDER THE SUN .? WTF .? / Hancock is definetly not a sstronq as Pre Crisis Superman or Pre Crisis Superboy , however he is stronqer than the version of Superman who killed Doomsday , its qone be a cake walk for Hancock .

I don't expect many (or anyone for that matter) to agree but if 10 people agree with his argument...then I will coincide against all common sense because if actually credible people read this and help me understand what this guy is talking about, it may just convince me. If more people disagree, then I will not feel like I need to break a glass bottle over my head to get my mind off of the confusion of what just happened.....because this guy seems crazy to me. At the end he even uses DBZ fanboy logic and makes it out like Hancock is a Saiyan, getting stronger after each fight and gave him heat vision...........WTF!!!!!.

So is this guy for real or is he just Rick Trolling me?

23 Comments
23 Comments
Posted by texasdeathmatch

Welcome to the ComicVine. You realize like 50% of its users are probably insane, so try not to take their statements too seriously. 
 
Also, you should probably post this kind of stuff on Off-Topic.

Posted by _slim_

From what I've seen from this site... he was for real about what he was saying.

Posted by ThexX

@texasdeathmatch said:

Welcome to the ComicVine. You realize like 50% of its users are probably insane, so try not to take their statements too seriously. Also, you should probably post this kind of stuff on Off-Topic.

This

Posted by RyuHayabusa

He is nothing compared to Klandicar or whatever his name is :P

Posted by Petey_is_Spidey

@Ancient_0f_Days: Welcome to the Vine(even though we've met). Most of the people here don't know what they're talking about, and haven't picked up more than 5 comics in they're life.

Posted by The Man of Yesteryear

what does this have to do with rick astley

Posted by Petey_is_Spidey

@The Man of Yesteryear: Most of the time this guy makes up words that no one knows what he's talking about.

Posted by SirMethos

Hmm... I wouldn't say I agree with his statement, but I can easily follow his train of thought, and he does have some good points.

And no, he does not seem to be "using DBZ logic" as you put it. His statement about the possibility of Hancock having heat vision is absolutely true.

What he is basically saying with that statement, is that since Hancock generally has the "superman-powerset", and we never see anywhere near his full power, there is a pretty good possibility that he has Heat Vision as well. Which is true. This doesn't mean that he HAS heat vision, simply that there is a good, logical, argument for it.

That said, the fight would likely end with either a stalemate, or Hancock winning.

If there is anything that I need to explain further, just let me know :)

Posted by Ancient_0f_Days

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@The Man of Yesteryear: Most of the time this guy makes up words that no one knows what he's talking about.

I just made up one word, when have I ever made up more than 5 words on here and who else has stated that they didn't understand the word I made up?......... the term rick rolled (derived from rick astley's song obviously) is used to describe jokes pulled on people who are expecting something else, a troll is someone who makes no sense, adds nothing important or relevant to the thread, usually has no credibility, and every now and then truly believes his own fabricated nonsense. I made up the word cuz it fits with how the word actually sounds and now has similar duel meanings (rick rolled-played a joke on, trolled-not making any sense and probably not serious)......so you were saying Petey ole pal (-'_'-)

Posted by Shawnbaby
@SirMethos said:

Hmm... I wouldn't say I agree with his statement, but I can easily follow his train of thought, and he does have some good points.

And no, he does not seem to be "using DBZ logic" as you put it. His statement about the possibility of Hancock having heat vision is absolutely true.

What he is basically saying with that statement, is that since Hancock generally has the "superman-powerset", and we never see anywhere near his full power, there is a pretty good possibility that he has Heat Vision as well. Which is true. This doesn't mean that he HAS heat vision, simply that there is a good, logical, argument for it.

That said, the fight would likely end with either a stalemate, or Hancock winning.

If there is anything that I need to explain further, just let me know :)

No, We don't just assume that Hancock has Superman's Powerset. The powers Hancock displays are some of the most common powers in the Comics universe. Strength, Flight, Durability. There are many, many other characters that have these powers. Not all of them are on the same level as Superman. Not all of them have Superman's other abilities.  
 
We don't know the upward limits of Hancock...that does not mean we automatically put him on the same level as Superman. He doesn't have the feats to suggest that he is in Superman's league.  We don't know enough about him to say " we never see anywhere near his full power". 
Edited by Ancient_0f_Days

@SirMethos: Well...there's one down, nine to go. From that point of view i guess heat-vision is plausible since he is another superman clone but what i was getting at is that he also said Hancock was an Angel (which he really isn't, but he aint a kryptonian, and hasnt shown the ability to do so), so I'm not sure if that has no real difference than Gladiator having the same powers and a different weakness with the same outcome or Count Nefarious (although both of them have displayed those powers on panel and frequently and on a Superman level compaired to Hancock who hasn't at all). But if so then I still need 9 more responses like this from different posters to completely change my mind. Thanks for the input though.

Posted by Illuminatus

Whatever.

Posted by Dernman

Welcome to the ComicVIne Crazy Train!      toot toot

Posted by joshmightbe

The dude seems very confused, he says Hancock can fly super sonic and Hyper sonic speeds which both mean the exact same thing, travelling beyond sonic speed, then he says he's unsure if the character can fly beyond sonic speeds, also the movie clearly states that they are not angels people simply confused them with angels due to their power

Posted by Inverno

The hell did I just read?

Posted by cyberninja

Well if it isn't the good old "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with nonsense." You would be surprised how many people actually do that here in comicvine, and you can't imagine the number of people who agree with them every time. 

Posted by SirMethos

@Shawnbaby said:

@SirMethos said:

Hmm... I wouldn't say I agree with his statement, but I can easily follow his train of thought, and he does have some good points.

And no, he does not seem to be "using DBZ logic" as you put it. His statement about the possibility of Hancock having heat vision is absolutely true.

What he is basically saying with that statement, is that since Hancock generally has the "superman-powerset", and we never see anywhere near his full power, there is a pretty good possibility that he has Heat Vision as well. Which is true. This doesn't mean that he HAS heat vision, simply that there is a good, logical, argument for it.

That said, the fight would likely end with either a stalemate, or Hancock winning.

If there is anything that I need to explain further, just let me know :)

No, We don't just assume that Hancock has Superman's Powerset. The powers Hancock displays are some of the most common powers in the Comics universe. Strength, Flight, Durability. There are many, many other characters that have these powers. Not all of them are on the same level as Superman. Not all of them have Superman's other abilities. We don't know the upward limits of Hancock...that does not mean we automatically put him on the same level as Superman. He doesn't have the feats to suggest that he is in Superman's league. We don't know enough about him to say " we never see anywhere near his full power".

At which point, exactly, did I say we should simply assume that Hancock has Superman's power set?

And even if he does have the same power set, it's not necessarily at the same levels.

Super Strength, Super Speed, Durability/Invulnerability and Flight. Is one of the most common 'core' power sets in DC, not generally in comics. And most characters with that core power set are influenced or inspired in some way, by Superman. Thus, it it not an illogical train of thought, to think that that might be the case for Hancock as well. Furthermore, Hancock(for the bigger part of the movie) doesn't know where he came from, or where his powers came from, same as Superman. Following that train of thought, it is logical to think that he might have other powers similar to Superman as well, i.e. the Heat Vision. As said, while the original poster did it in a clumsy kind of way, he does have a point about the possibility of Hancock having Heat Vision.

As for not being able to say "we never see anywhere near his full power", sure we can. If you actually watch the movie, we never see him straining the least bit, except when he's fighting his wife/ex-wife, who weakens him/lessens his power, thus what we see against her, is not near his full power either.

Posted by Shawnbaby
@SirMethos: We do not award victory here based on the "possibility" of powers. We do not say Hancock beats Doomsday because He Might be just like Superman. There is no factual evidence that supports the supposition that Hancock is even remotely in Superman's league.  Based on shown abilities...Hancock cannot win.  
 
It is not logical to assume anything about any character simply because they share some commonality with another. Martian Manhunter has some of the same abilities as Superman...but they have vastly different power sets overall.  
Posted by a88378438

THE silver age superman level?

most peolpe always say SA superman just can a Sneeze destroy solar system,this wrong,because a sneeze just SA superman body Normal response,this feats even not SA superman 0.0000000000000000000001% of the power,but if this man use full power to destroy something,we don;t know how much powerful,but,A sneeze just body normal response enough destroy solar system,just think about

add SA superman many feats(like,PC supergirl almost kill COIE AM,break loose blackstarr power------the power enough hold the universe together,100galaxy pound can' t beat PC supers,Bear the quasar without injury quasar------a quasar is more powerful than a galaxy

DD=SA SUPERMAN?Just to the overuse underestimated to SA superman

Posted by ssejllenrad

@RyuHayabusa said:

He is nothing compared to He who must not be named or whatever his name is :P

Fixed

Posted by Nova`Prime`

@texasdeathmatch said:

Welcome to the ComicVine. You realize like 50% of its users are probably insane, so try not to take their statements too seriously. Also, you should probably post this kind of stuff on Off-Topic.

LOL 50%? I think you're being generous, I'd say closer to 75-80% of the ComicVine population are insane.

Posted by Lvenger

Good grief you were right. This is life changing. I never thought anyone could lack that much common sense.

Posted by Jezer

Lol if this thread wasn't a month old, I'd rip into that SirMethos guy's posts.