@fallschirmjager said:
You clearly are misunderstanding things when it comes to Seiya. Cloth is irrelevant to power. A saints power comes from his cosmo, not his cloth. Seiya doesn't even get his Gold Cloth until Saint Seiya Omega which takes place like 20-30 years after the original series...the end of which he is allowed to temporarily wear Athena's cloth when fighting hades. And Seiya's cosmo had all ready reached Gold Cloth level mid series when he beats Tauras Aldebaran (granted Tauras is one of the weakest Gold Saints for sure, but still.)
A cloth represents rank, power and spirituality. It does not bestow power. Seiya was only able to injure Hades when he fought him. He cracked his armor and gave Hades a head wound from which he was bleeding. Impressive, considering the feats Hades has - but Athena was the one who ultimately beat Hades - not Seiya. Seiya was otherwise helpless.
Moreover, DB has not shown the ability to attack on an atomic level yet, let alone in 3 levels of existence simultaneously. They can't touch the eternal atoms at all. Nevermind the fact that they have no way of defending against DS erasing their existence
i know Cloths doesn't give power, what OP i think means by Gold Cloth Saiya, is the time when Saiya had Gold Cloth, and by that time he was less powerful than when he obtained God Cloth, right? it's been a while since i saw Saint Saiya so correct me on this if i'm wrong.
DB has shown ability to desintegrate on cellular level in Cell saga, then they showed ability to desintegrate on atomic level in Buu saga. Cell was able to regenerate from cellular level, and Buu was able to regenerate from atomic level, because Buu was able to regenerate from both solid chunks of his body, and pure fumes and gas, and those different materials have different molecular structure, hence his regeneration ability is based on atomic level and not molecular or cellular level.
DB Ki is a spiritual energy that comes from both the spirit and the body, hence it has spiritual and physical properties, which is also confirmed by manga and anime (dead persons can still be killed again and erased from existance using Ki attacks and the physical destruction is very obvious). Also Akira Toryama confirmes that one of Ki's components is the mind, which makes it have mind property too, which is also confirmed by DB characters psychic abilities shown in manga and anime (mind reading, TK, TP, telepathic resistance...).
Ki has effects on the 3 levels of existance of the eternal atoms, but i agree with you that there is no real evidence that they can kill him on the 3 levels of existance simultaniously.
it's been a long time since i read Bastard!! remind me how is Darsh erasing their existance exactly?
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