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#1 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

mismatch

Thanos easily both rounds

#2 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

@leo-343 said:

Batman wins on account of having greater resources. I don't wanna be that guy who says 'lol Justice Buster armour GG' or 'Pfft Batman just gets the Hellbat' but...

in one word : Kamui

#3 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

LOOL at people saying Thor solo.

How is Thor soloing characters like Saitama with infinite durability, and Alucard with immortality.

the key word is speedblitz

Kakashi solo, with Kamui.

Madara solo with Human Path

Pain solo with Human Path

bloodlusted Saitama should solo

this again

#4 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

well, the anime is full of inconsistencies, we should rely on the canon source which is the manga, and according to manga, Trunks and Goten wern't able to land even a single punch or kick on Android 18.

Android 18 said that it's dangerous to keep fighting SSJ1 Goten and SSJ1 Trunks, but that's not enough proof to suggest that they are more powerful than her.

in short, there is no telling who would win the fight, they might be equal, or maybe 18 is a little bit more powerful, or the boys are a little bit more powerful.

#5 Edited by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

Non Factors: Star-Lord, Mr Fantastic(no prep), Captain America, Iron Man, Daredevil, Hawkeye, Wolverine, Nova, The Human Touch, Rocket Raccoon

Die After 15min: Black panther, Cyclops, Gamora, The Thing, Colossus, Groot, Drax the Destroyer

The REAL Fight: Hulk, Thor, Silver surfer, Invisible Woman, Magneto, Ice man

Thanos wins.

this

#6 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

LOOL at people saying Thor solo.

How is Thor soloing characters like Saitama with infinite durability, and Alucard with immortality.

the key word is speedblitz

Kakashi solo, with Kamui.

Madara solo with Human Path

Pain solo with Human Path

bloodlusted Saitama should solo

#7 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuss4z:

@all_mighty_beyonder: so...a full grown super saiyan with an entire life of training can't be 8x stronger than his pre-teen child? 8x isn't that massive of a difference for dbz. Frieda overshadowed everyone by literally hundreds of times. I have to disagree here. I can accept if the one part was filler, but saying a small child can't be 8x weaker than his main character/powerhouse of a dad is kinda a stretch for me

we know that : SSJ3 Goku < Super Janemba < SSJ1 Gogeta

that means : 8x base Goku < base Gogeta

there is a factor of multiplication of power in the dance fusion, let's call it 'f' : 8x base Goku < fx (base Vegeta + base Goku)

since dance fusion require equal power level, that means : base Vegeta = base Goku

hence : 8x base Goku < 2fx base Goku

conclusion : f > 4

we also know that : Super Buu = Kid Buu + Fat Buu

and : Kid Buu > Fat Buu

and : Kid Buu = SSJ3 Goku

in other words : Super Buu < 2x Kid Buu = 2x SSJ3 Goku

hence : SSJ3 Goku < Super Buu = SSJ3 Gotenks < 2x SSJ3 Goku

it means : base Goku < base Gotenks = fx (Goten + Trunks) < 2x base Goku

and dance fusion require equal power level, that means : base Goten = base Trunks

hence : fx Goten < base Goku

and since we found that f > 4 then that means Goku and Vegeta are a lot more powerful than 4 times Goten.

so yeah, 8 times can be true, but the point is there is no proof of that, and hence we can't say per sure that SSJ1 Gogeta can beat SSJ3 Gotenks. From what i analysed above, we can be sure that SSJ2 Gogeta will stomp SSJ3 Gotenks, but there is nothing that suggest SSJ1 Gogeta can beat SSJ3 Gotenks

@98115 said:

@all_mighty_beyonder:

"upon sensing the power of janemba in his first form goku says its the strongest power he has ever felt" (from dragonball wikia) it also states that he is stonger than hirudegan since goku couldn't trade blows with janemba like he does with hirudegan. its worth noting hirudegan beats gotenks very easily (one hit i think) but was beaten by super saiyan 3 goku wich is weaker than super saiyan gogeta.

i don't like that movie of Hirudegan, because it makes no sens, SSJ3 goku beats Hirudegan, while Hirudegan beats both Gotenks and Gohan. So according to that movie, SSJ3 Goku is a more powerful than Mystic Gohan and Gotenks, and that's a big ball of s**t.

also, when Goku said its the strongest power he has ever felt, that's a big inconsistency, because SSJ3 Goku proved to be more powerful than base Janemba, and according to the manga Super Buu is a lot more powerful than SSJ3 Goku. That means Janemba isn't the strongest power he has ever felt, unless the movie was cast before the appearence of Super Buu in the anime

#8 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuss4z: @98115: your arguments is based on the fact that Super Janemba is more powerful than Super Buu, but the truth is that there is no proof of that. What's your proof that Super Janemba is more powerful than Super Buu?

#9 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

@uft said:

im of the belief that base vegetto just couldnt cut it. or else he would have used it, to further humiliate his opponent.

or he would be slightly stronger but not enough.

impossible to know, making this a pointless fight, given base vegetto is featless

i have a theory that Vegeto is a lot weaker than Buuhan, and all that fight in the anime is just a noncanon filler that is inconsistant.

this is how i think :

Elder Kai confirmed that the fused supreme kai, has no chance against Buuhan, and each of the 2 supreme kais is powerful enough to one shoot Frieza, that means each of the supreme kais is around a weak SSJ1 level.

that means supreme kais > Base Goku and Vegeta. and that means Fused Supreme Kai > Base Vegeto

hence Buhhan will stomp base Vegeto.

and this conclusion does make sens, because in the manga Vegeto immediatly went SSJ1, because he didn't want to risk it, also Goku asked if he should transform first to SSJ1 before fusion because he will need to be SSJ1 as Vegeto to beat Buuhan.

#10 Edited by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1746 posts) - - Show Bio

@gokuss4z said:

Gogeta annihilates gotenks.

based on?

Goku and Vegeta fought super buu inside himself, didn't they? They literally couldn't even be in Janemba's presence without risking death in one blow, and SSJ3 Goku was powerless against its weaker form. I don't see how base Super Buu is stronger considering the fact...

Gogeta should take this both rounds, although the second is largely from simply being a better fighter.

Goku and Vegeta never fought Super Buu, that's an anime filler, it's non canon and inconsistant, goku admitted he can't beat Super Buu even with the help of Vegeta, that's enough proof that SSJ3 Goku is way below SSJ3 Gotenks.

so again how Gogeta gonna win? we can't tell who's more powerful, Gogeta or Gotenks ?

as i said, if Gogeta is more powerful than Gotenks, then that means Vegeta and Goku are more than 8 times more powerful than Goten and Trunks. the difference is too big to be real, but again there is no proof of anything