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@AlexMilano13 said:
I know the movie happened back in 2004 and I haven't really checked to see if this question was asked before, but couldn't Storm have stopped the flood in X2 with her wind control or water control or something.
Maybe Storm could have stopped the flood. But I think the real question is.. Couldn't Jean have stopped the flood from inside the ship instead of going outside and dying? Or better yet, lift the ship till the engines came on?
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I like to believe that there was a scene that didn't make the final cut of the movie, wherein Destiny approaches Storm and warns her of the impending travesty of X3. Storm was deliberately holding back (both with the flood and in the earlier scene with the missiles), in an attempt to kill off the entire team (herself included) and thus spare the world from having to endure such cinematic horror. After all, isn't this what a REAL heroine would do?

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okay so iceman probably didnt have enough power to freeze the entire flood but with storm's help they could have. 
also while they are freezing, nightcrawler could be teleporting people a short distance away so they aren't affected by the flood. 
so yeah, Jean probably should have thought that one through before sacrificing herself. 
also, if they hadn't had to waste time freaking out about Jean. they probably would have flew away on time. sreiously.
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@Vance Astro said:
If she did there would be a hole in the story and thus we wouldn't have gotten our first glimpse of Phoenix and a black woman would have been the hero.Hollywood can't have that.
Uhh Storm technically was the hero....she stopped Jason from controlling The Professor....which stopped The Professor from killing humanity.
 
Attention to detail Fail
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@Omega Ray Jay said:
Having watched X2 yesterday it did occur to me that a lot of the mutants on the ship could have banded together and had a better outcome than Jean going all martyr.
To right.
 
Maybe she wanted to die so she could rise from the ashes and become the Phoenix ;)
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Having watched X2 yesterday it did occur to me that a lot of the mutants on the ship could have banded together and had a better outcome than Jean going all martyr.

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Yeah she kinda could have using a funnel cloud to suck up all the water.  But again the writers don't think like that.  She definitely has the best feats in all the movies hands down.  Did anyone see her deleted scene fight against the brotherhood?  Unfortunately it was cut from the film but it's too dope she made a flood of water rain down from the sky and constantly stuck them all with lightning!!  Too bad!!  Magnus is my second favorite mutant and I think in terms of feats he would be next there after.  She also could have flash frozen the water.

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@Slight: I watch Glee sometimes, haven't watched it in a while. 
 
and Mancedes??? 
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@Slight said:
@Aqua11500 said:
@mfundo said:

@Aqua11500: High five girl! LOL!

 
 

 

Riva deep...Mountin High... Halleloo and We's be's goins ta Breadsticks
LMAO,you a mess Slight..
Off topic...But if you've seen the Glee Project or as I like to call, Sam,.... Then you saw Mancedes
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I'm not sure if Storm had enough control over her hurricane force winds to stop that kind of force. The tornadoes she manifested barely threw some planes off course - hundreds of tons of water would have been too much for her. Due to lack of experience, Iceman probably would not have been able to freeze all that water before being overwhelmed and killed/drowned, and his powers would be the most natural way to counter an attack like that. The X-Men were definitely powered down for the movies in general, but of all of them, that type of focused counter-force is something that a telekinetic like Jean would be best at. The early X movies were trying to ground themselves in real physics as much as possible, and a result is that some of the ridiculous things they have performed in the comics would not be believable and would have negatively impacted their vision for the movie while some things they should have been capable of (i.e. Storm should have been able to fly to handle the jets, Jean should have been able to use psychic attacks to incapacitate some opponents, etc.) never happened or looked clumsy. Heck, we even had a scene in "First Class", which was a better movie than the first four by far, in which a woman made out of diamond was almost crushed by a golden bedframe when in reality, gold is soft enough to be bent out of shape or cut by diamond very easily, which goes to show the writing could go both ways even in a good X-Men movie. And then, after the movies have been released and fans debate about what is canon or not, we hear in the Director's Commentary how much more awesome some of these scenes could have been before they changed their minds. It's very annoying.  
 
And yet they still find a way to cram in a Sentinel, in one of the worst CGI moments of the entire trilogy for no reason.

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@Storm Calling: I C wat U did thar! True she got lots of exposure but in reality, you have draw in the divas along with the boyfriends taking them to the movies somehow. Posters of Hugh Jackman and Rebecca Romijn can only attract so much attention,
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@Slight said:
@Aqua11500 said:
@mfundo said:

@Aqua11500: High five girl! LOL!

 
 

 

Riva deep...Mountin High... Halleloo and We's be's goins ta Breadsticks
LMAO,you a mess Slight..
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@Aqua11500 said:
@mfundo said:

@Aqua11500: High five girl! LOL!

 
 

 

Riva deep...Mountin High... Halleloo and We's be's goins ta Breadsticks
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@Storm Calling said:
@FortressoftheMoon said:

@Roddy010: Hugh Jackman was the main star cause Wolverine is the most popular Xmen and an automatically cash machine. When the X-men movies was first menetion, the first things people that came out of people's mouth was "So who's gonna be Wolverine?" I remembering saying that I was going to see X1 cause I thought Mel Gibson was going to be Logan.  Not to mention he was the best looking xmen. Storm was hot as hell but that wig she wore in X1 was just downright hell No. Hollywood always make the best looking person the main star. (Caucasian males get first spotlight unless its Will Smith or Denzel Washinton)

But it was Halle Berry's name that was plastered all over billboards and advertizements. Highly disappointing to see she ended up having so little role.
Ugh tell me about it.... 
 
 
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@Roddy010: Hugh Jackman was the main star cause Wolverine is the most popular Xmen and an automatically cash machine. When the X-men movies was first menetion, the first things people that came out of people's mouth was "So who's gonna be Wolverine?" I remembering saying that I was going to see X1 cause I thought Mel Gibson was going to be Logan.  Not to mention he was the best looking xmen. Storm was hot as hell but that wig she wore in X1 was just downright hell No. Hollywood always make the best looking person the main star. (Caucasian males get first spotlight unless its Will Smith or Denzel Washinton)

But it was Halle Berry's name that was plastered all over billboards and advertizements. Highly disappointing to see she ended up having so little role.
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@FortressoftheMoon said:
@Roddy010: Hugh Jackman was the main star cause Wolverine is the most popular Xmen and an automatically cash machine. When the X-men movies was first menetion, the first things people that came out of people's mouth was "So who's gonna be Wolverine?" I remembering saying that I was going to see X1 cause I thought Mel Gibson was going to be Logan.  Not to mention he was the best looking xmen. Storm was hot as hell but that wig she wore in X1 was just downright hell No. Hollywood always make the best looking person the main star. (Caucasian males get first spotlight unless its Will Smith or Denzel Washinton)
LMAO.
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@FortressoftheMoon said:
@Roddy010: Hugh Jackman was the main star cause Wolverine is the most popular Xmen and an automatically cash machine. When the X-men movies was first menetion, the first things people that came out of people's mouth was "So who's gonna be Wolverine?" I remembering saying that I was going to see X1 cause I thought Mel Gibson was going to be Logan.  Not to mention he was the best looking xmen. Storm was hot as hell but that wig she wore in X1 was just downright hell No. Hollywood always make the best looking person the main star. (Caucasian males get first spotlight unless its EWill Smith or Denzel Washinton)
Exactly my point...
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@Roddy010: Hugh Jackman was the main star cause Wolverine is the most popular Xmen and an automatically cash machine. When the X-men movies was first menetion, the first things people that came out of people's mouth was "So who's gonna be Wolverine?" I remembering saying that I was going to see X1 cause I thought Mel Gibson was going to be Logan. 
 
Not to mention he was the best looking xmen. Storm was hot as hell but that wig she wore in X1 was just downright hell No. Hollywood always make the best looking person the main star. (Caucasian males get first spotlight unless its Will Smith or Denzel Washinton)
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@FortressoftheMoon said:
@mfundo: There is nothing wrong with Vance's comment. The guy was just speaking the truth. Storm was the magical mutant negro and would have messed up the story if she jumped ship taking over "the hero that used their brain" role and leaving Jean Grey along with Wolverine as the magical mutant caucasians. Hollywood would have a riot.   
This is true...Why do you think Hugh Jackman was the main focus in all three movies...Wolverine was never a leader in the first place...
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@mfundo: There is nothing wrong with Vance's comment. The guy was just speaking the truth. Storm was the magical mutant negro and would have messed up the story if she jumped ship taking over "the hero that used their brain" role and leaving Jean Grey along with Wolverine as the magical mutant caucasians. Hollywood would have a riot.  
 
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@Aqua11500: High five girl! LOL!

 
 

 

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High five girl! LOL!
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Well that was not racist at all. I'm sure you've got a reason for saying that. That comment you made, not cool. No offence. 
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@Slight:  
@Storm Calling:  
 
Either way whoever decision it was to have Storm not have the accent was still a fail.
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@FortressoftheMoon:LMAO
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@FortressoftheMoon: Halle was told not to do the accent...They specifically informed her not to do the accent so she didn't.
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@FortressoftheMoon said:

The accent is important. If you are gonna act a role, then act the role. Don't half-ass it. Plus the moment when those pilots started firing missiles. Trying to scare them off went out the window.

I absolutely agree, but it wasn't the actress choice to remove the accent and it wasn't the responsibility of the actress to ensure that she could speak properly with an accent. That job fall to director, the casting and all is his responsibility.
 

She still could have summon a lightning strike to hit the missiles. For example, 
 
Storm: Jean, do something useful and hold the Blackbird steady. There are firing missiles at us.
Everyone in the blackbird: Oh No! We are gonna die! Somebody do something! This is your fault, Pyro!
Storm: Everyone Chill the #$% out! I got this! 
 
Storm looks out the window sees the missiles flying the blackbird, Storm's eyes turn white. A gust of wind is felt on the blackbird. Wolverine looks around confused. Jean Grey still acting like she don't know what she is doing. Nightcrawler continues praying. Bobby and Rogue squeezes each other's hand. Pyro pouts. 
 
Storm waits a few seconds for a more dramatic effect then Shazam. Missile blows up. Close up on Storm's eye looking at the next missile wait a few more seconds...Shazam. Second misslie explodes. Storms's eye turn back to normal. Storm turns around a poses for the Xmen. 
 
Wolverine: Wow, that' some display of power. 
Storm: BOOYAH!  

That job was given to Jean, and she failed to carry it out. Storm was able to do just what you said in the official movie game, which is canon to the movie-verse.  
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@Storm Calling: The accent is important. If you are gonna act a role, then act the role. Don't half-ass it. Plus the moment when those pilots started firing missiles. Trying to scare them off went out the window. She still could have summon a lightning strike to hit the missiles. For example, 
 
Storm: Jean, do something useful and hold the Blackbird steady. There are firing missiles at us.
Everyone in the blackbird: Oh No! We are gonna die! Somebody do something! This is your fault, Pyro!
Storm: Everyone Chill the #$% out! I got this! 
 
Storm looks out the window sees the missiles flying the blackbird, Storm's eyes turn white. A gust of wind is felt on the blackbird. Wolverine looks around confused. Jean Grey still acting like she don't know what she is doing. Nightcrawler continues praying. Bobby and Rogue squeezes each other's hand. Pyro pouts. 
 
Storm waits a few seconds for a more dramatic effect then Shazam. Missile blows up. Close up on Storm's eye looking at the next missile wait a few more seconds...Shazam. Second misslie explodes. Storms's eye turn back to normal. Storm turns around a poses for the Xmen. 
 
Wolverine: Wow, that' some display of power. 
Storm: BOOYAH!  
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@Vance Astro said:
If she did there would be a hole in the story and thus we wouldn't have gotten our first glimpse of Phoenix and a black woman would have been the hero.Hollywood can't have that.
Lmao
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@FortressoftheMoon said: There was one in the first movie, singer was too cheap to higher a voice coach for the actress and she had to talk the best she could with what she knew. The accent was eventually just stripped in x2 though, I don't know why since that was definitely something important that she should have had, I don't care how bad it was. Lol
 
She didnt summon lightning in the tornado scene because she wasn't trying to harm the pilots. I saw the tornadoes as a warning for the pilots to scare them off. What was more surprising is the fact that they actually continued on through the storm of tornadoes as if they weren't a threat. Anyone in their right mind would have turned around and let the jet go. Flying off into a storm of tornadoes that were dropping extremely fast by the second was just suicide.
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@Aqua11500: You missed how Storm didnt have her cute african accent in the Xmen movies. Of all the Storm fans I figured you would have been the one to point that out.
Oh yeah i mentioned that in another thread too. 
 
It was there in the first one....then they dropped it. Yeah they messed a lot of crap up.
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@Aqua11500: You missed how Storm didnt have her cute african accent in the Xmen movies. Of all the Storm fans I figured you would have been the one to point that out.
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(I'm specially disppointed in Aqua11500

LOL what i do?
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@FortressoftheMoon said:

All of those great points I missed and noone (I'm specially disppointed in Aqua11500) spotted one of the most obvious flaw with Storm is her accent. Storms sounded too Hollywood and didnt have that erotic eastern hemisphere accent she was suppose to have. At least in the 90s cartoon Storm was somewhat convincing her upbringing in Africa.
 
Another thing that made me go "WTF?" was the scene when they were camping and Mystique goes into Logan's tent and after they made out then Logan pushes her off she starts morphing in different people then she stops at Stryker still giving a seductive look saying "What is it you really want?" I looked over to my girlfriend and whispered to her "Did this movie just hint Logan knows all there is to know about the Crying Game?"

 

Why was Rogue in Xmen movies, she did nothing in x2 or X3 except make ugly faces? 
 
Pyro attacking cops and the cops not shooting back. Yeah Logan get pwned to the shot in the head but soon as Pyro blasted the first set of cops the other cops should have opened fire.  It was a minority all of the cops all the cops would have opened fire using shotguns. 
 
 
Magneto getting stomped in a self-righteous debate by Logan in X1. Blasphepmy!  
Magneto leaving Mystique on the floor butt-naked walking saying "She was so beautiful." The lady looked the same, aint nothing some blue makeup and a red cosplay wig can't fix.  
 
Storm could have landed the Blackbird without Magento's help. The lady just summoned the same tornadoes that starred in Day after Tomorrow and she can't conjure up enough wind to land a jet?  
 
The scene being chased by Jets why summon tornadoes, Why not just summon some lightning strikes on the Jets or missiles?  
 
Since when Pyslocke from X3 turns invisble like the dude from the TICK? Ya'll now who I'm talking that cute asian chick with the dye purple hair hanging with Arclight and Spike  
 
Also the missing deleted scene when Logan goes to Jean Grey and comments about the "Display of Power" and Storm rudeley interrupts saying "What display of power? The %^&%ing plane still got hit. It was a display of Epic Fail. Tjhe only display of power she can do is chuck cereal bowls at Cyclops. Both of you really suck and I can't believe I have to give up screentime for this. At least with me I got beat up by a dude who can move like Darth Maul. Mr Scary Weapon X gets beat up by a girls and this one can't even levitate a book without getting a headache but she is a class 5 mutant. I'm gonna get drunk with the Magnetic Jew and Smurfette." 

Lol sad but true...
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Storm can't do anything, she's useless.
I expect more from you... Flaming...really... SHAME
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All of those great points I missed and noone (I'm specially disppointed in Aqua11500) spotted one of the most obvious flaw with Storm is her accent. Storms sounded too Hollywood and didnt have that erotic eastern hemisphere accent she was suppose to have. At least in the 90s cartoon Storm was somewhat convincing her upbringing in Africa.
 
Another thing that made me go "WTF?" was the scene when they were camping and Mystique goes into Logan's tent and after they made out then Logan pushes her off she starts morphing in different people then she stops at Stryker still giving a seductive look saying "What is it you really want?" I looked over to my girlfriend and whispered to her "Did this movie just hint Logan knows all there is to know about the Crying Game?"

 

Why was Rogue in Xmen movies, she did nothing in x2 or X3 except make ugly faces? 
 
Pyro attacking cops and the cops not shooting back. Yeah Logan get pwned to the shot in the head but soon as Pyro blasted the first set of cops the other cops should have opened fire.  It was a minority all of the cops all the cops would have opened fire using shotguns. 
 
 
Magneto getting stomped in a self-righteous debate by Logan in X1. Blasphepmy!  
Magneto leaving Mystique on the floor butt-naked walking saying "She was so beautiful." The lady looked the same, aint nothing some blue makeup and a red cosplay wig can't fix.  
 
Storm could have landed the Blackbird without Magento's help. The lady just summoned the same tornadoes that starred in Day after Tomorrow and she can't conjure up enough wind to land a jet?  
 
The scene being chased by Jets why summon tornadoes, Why not just summon some lightning strikes on the Jets or missiles?  
 
Since when Pyslocke from X3 turns invisble like the dude from the TICK? Ya'll now who I'm talking that cute asian chick with the dye purple hair hanging with Arclight and Spike  
 
Also the missing deleted scene when Logan goes to Jean Grey and comments about the "Display of Power" and Storm rudeley interrupts saying "What display of power? The %^&%ing plane still got hit. It was a display of Epic Fail. Tjhe only display of power she can do is chuck cereal bowls at Cyclops. Both of you really suck and I can't believe I have to give up screentime for this. At least with me I got beat up by a dude who can move like Darth Maul. Mr Scary Weapon X gets beat up by a girls and this one can't even levitate a book without getting a headache but she is a class 5 mutant. I'm gonna get drunk with the Magnetic Jew and Smurfette." 

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those wolverine movies; x-1, x-2 and x-3 were bs. it took halle to read a damn comic with storm in it for her to say "hey storm isnt a backround character". even with a more important role. wolverine was still the leader of the x-men in x-3. professor x died and wolverine was hurt about it more than storm or anyone else for that matter. They made pheonix a split personality instead of an enitity. the last love scene with logan and jean was bs. how can she break matter apart but his skeleton is still intact? last i recall his skeleton doent have a healing factor. oh and then the weakest line in the x movies besides storms toad joke; "you will die for them?" .... really? oh wait then he said NO.... what a selfish fucking movie. all because he wanted his hairy little wee wee wet. man those moves were bitch shyt.
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Screw Storm fixing the giant wave they had Iceman ! if ever there was a mutant you would want to help when a giant wave was coming it would be him. Instant stopping of the water

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I don't think any of the directors (Ratner or Singer) nailed Storm correctly in any of the x-movies. They seemed to build up on her in each movie, but didn't really nail her as well as they did Wolverine, Magneto or Xavier.I thought the flood scene was PIS, as Jean (or even Storm) could have simply lifted the x-jet above the onslaught of water hit. I understand that this was one of the power catalyst to get Jean to the PF level but this could have been done in a more dramatic way that catered to the plot vs. seeming forced and poorly executed.
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no. she is too busy getting her asskicked by everyone in the move
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Yes. They totally slept on Storm in the movies.
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@8diagrams said:
You guys are making me realize that the Xmen movies could be a lot better than what we have seen so far (including first class).
I know, right?
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@CATPANEXE said:

@Storm Calling: clearly she could have, hence the rest of my post?

That last part about her holding back the water wasn't specifically geared towards just your post. Sorry.
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@CATPANEXE: -

It has been said that Singer states that none of them we're powerful enough in the use of their powers to stop that much rushing water with the X-Men of Jean who had advanced (unconfirmed, possibly in the directors commentary?)

Actually in X2 commentary, Singer admitted that Storm could have generated a funnel to stop the water but he wanted that scene to represent the most powerful mutant. So the reason she wasn't allow to stop it was because she would have outshined Jean. Clearly someone with the power to generate a hundred tornadoes would have had the power to hold back the dam burst before it got to the jet.
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@Ashra said:
X2 was my favorite, too much Wolverine/Jean ish in the 3rd movie for my taste.  Storm's haircut didn't help either. 
I agree 
 
but that cut was hot,i liked Storm hair,nice touch of low lights.reminded me of ultimate Storm
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X2 was my favorite, too much Wolverine/Jean ish in the 3rd movie for my taste.  Storm's haircut didn't help either. 
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There's always a what if or why didn't this happen in movies.  Would of loved to see Singer's version of X3 though.

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@8diagrams said:
You guys are making me realize that the Xmen movies could be a lot better than what we have seen so far (including first class).
X-movies were good,my only complaint is too much wolvie and X3. ...other than that.
 
 
X1 and X2 were phenomenal though,X2 was the best of the series up until recently with first class
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