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Posted by Vance Astro

If she did there would be a hole in the story and thus we wouldn't have gotten our first glimpse of Phoenix and a black woman would have been the hero.Hollywood can't have that.

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Posted by King Quisling
@Vance Astro said:
If she did there would be a hole in the story and thus we wouldn't have gotten our first glimpse of Phoenix and a black woman would have been the hero.Hollywood can't have that.
This pretty much sums it up.
Posted by PrinceIMC

Movie Storm just wasn't that powerful.

Posted by StarKiller809
@AlexMilano13
She could of saved Jean and the X-Men 
 
She also could have saved us from seeing X-men: The Last Stand
Edited by Ashra
@Vance Astro said:

If she did there would be a hole in the story and thus we wouldn't have gotten our first glimpse of Phoenix and a black woman would have been the hero.Hollywood can't have that.

How true.
 
Yeah, technically Storm could have done numerous things in the movie, but then there wouldn't have been a need for the others.   And of course, Phoenix had to look like she was more powerful than the rest of them.   Just like how in X2 she (Storm) acts as if she couldn't have stopped the missiles attacking the Blackbird.  Then Wolverine goes on with his "some display of power up there" speech, even though Storm had just made several tornadoes appear out of thin air.  But Jean stopping one missile was such a great display of power.    *rolls eyes*
Posted by Elementor
@Ashra: Im rollin' my eyes with you....Ugh X[ 
@Vance Astro
: I totally agree....  
(Im just disappointed with all the films really......Sickening) 
Posted by Ebbm

Storm was heavily powered down in the movie. But yeah, you'd think she could have at least helped Jean.

Posted by SC

Yes... but she secretly wanted everyone to die, just like the comic version of her. 

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Posted by joshmightbe

She could have and so could iceman, Cyclops could have diverted it by using an optic blast to dig a quick trench, Magneto could have used the metal all over the facility to make a makeshift damn, or Jean could have lifted the Xjet from inside it and not had to deal with the flood 

Posted by THUNDERBOLT30
@StarKiller809 said:
@AlexMilano13: She could of saved Jean and the X-Men  She also could have saved us from seeing X-men: The Last Stand

LOL
Posted by Aqua11500
@PrinceIMC said:
Movie Storm just wasn't that powerful.
She created hundreds of Tornadoes with ease,at the same time....that isn't powerful, then i don't know what is ;) 
 
 GTFO :D 
 
Between Storm and Mags they had the best feats in the movieverse,Magneto was better though. 
 
 
and Storm or Bobby could have frozen that wave,but like above poster. it would  be a big hole in the story.
Posted by Aqua11500
@Ebbm said:
Storm was heavily powered down in the movie. But yeah, you'd think she could have at least helped Jean.
Storm wouldn't have needed help.Jean could have sat back and  just relaxed 
 
though Jean wouldn't let anybody move. 
 
@Ashra said:
@Vance Astro said:

If she did there would be a hole in the story and thus we wouldn't have gotten our first glimpse of Phoenix and a black woman would have been the hero.Hollywood can't have that.

How true.
 
Yeah, technically Storm could have done numerous things in the movie, but then there wouldn't have been a need for the others.   And of course, Phoenix had to look like she was more powerful than the rest of them.   Just like how in X2 she (Storm) acts as if she couldn't have stopped the missiles attacking the Blackbird.  Then Wolverine goes on with his "some display of power up there" speech, even though Storm had just made several tornadoes appear out of thin air.  But Jean stopping one missile was such a great display of power.    *rolls eyes*
That pissed me off too. 
 
 
a missile vs taking out the fighter jets pursuing you with lots more where that came from.Storm put in the real work up there 
 
 
@Vance Astro said:
If she did there would be a hole in the story and thus we wouldn't have gotten our first glimpse of Phoenix and a black woman would have been the hero.Hollywood can't have that.
Truth
Posted by Kairan1979
@AlexMilano13
there were several ways to save X-Men without Jean turning into Phoenix. Several of them are already mentioned, but I think Nightcrawler could have teleported them to safety, one by one.
Posted by jubilee042

then there wouldn' t hav been a stort

Posted by fesak

Storm can't do anything, she's useless.

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Posted by PrinceIMC
@Aqua11500 said:
@PrinceIMC said:
Movie Storm just wasn't that powerful.
She created hundreds of Tornadoes with ease,at the same time....that isn't powerful, then i don't know what is ;)   GTFO :D  Between Storm and Mags they had the best feats in the movieverse,Magneto was better though.   and Storm or Bobby could have frozen that wave,but like above poster. it would  be a big hole in the story.
I'm going to have to watch the movie again because I only remember a couple tornadoes, not hundreds. Plus tornadoes probably wouldn't have helped in that situation, probably just would have made things worse.
Edited by FadeToBlackBolt
@Aqua11500 said:

@PrinceIMC said:

Movie Storm just wasn't that powerful.
She created hundreds of Tornadoes with ease,at the same time....that isn't powerful, then i don't know what is ;)   GTFO :D  Between Storm and Mags they had the best feats in the movieverse,Magneto was better though.   and Storm or Bobby could have frozen that wave,but like above poster. it would  be a big hole in the story.
Wolverine's healing factor was capable of regenerating matter on a molecular level within microseconds. Jean was able to rip apart matter on a molecular level against multiple targets at once. Both of these two had greater feats than Storm or Magneto. 
Edited by Aqua11500
@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@Aqua11500 said:

@PrinceIMC said:

Movie Storm just wasn't that powerful.
She created hundreds of Tornadoes with ease,at the same time....that isn't powerful, then i don't know what is ;)   GTFO :D  Between Storm and Mags they had the best feats in the movieverse,Magneto was better though.   and Storm or Bobby could have frozen that wave,but like above poster. it would  be a big hole in the story.
Wolverine's healing factor was capable of regenerating matter on a molecular level within microseconds. Jean was able to rip apart matter on a molecular level against multiple targets at once. Both of these two had greater feats than Storm or Magneto. 
Ugh i hate to count X-3,even though my fave X-men was bomb in it...lol j/k the movie wasn't that bad. 
 
 
Yeah but me personally i count Jean as regular Jean Grey and Dark  Phoenix separate,its a huge power gap.Besides If we go through just all characters feat x-1--in x-2 it would be between Storm and Magneto . 
 Though i agree, Wolverine while plot device still had very powerful healing factor and Jean could rip apart matter. 
 
 
 
 
@PrinceIMC said:
@Aqua11500 said:
@PrinceIMC said:
Movie Storm just wasn't that powerful.
She created hundreds of Tornadoes with ease,at the same time....that isn't powerful, then i don't know what is ;)   GTFO :D  Between Storm and Mags they had the best feats in the movieverse,Magneto was better though.   and Storm or Bobby could have frozen that wave,but like above poster. it would  be a big hole in the story.
I'm going to have to watch the movie again because I only remember a couple tornadoes, not hundreds. Plus tornadoes probably wouldn't have helped in that situation, probably just would have made things worse.
Yeah if you have the X-2 special edition dvd with Bonus disc, there's a section where it shows behind the scenes and the special  effects and computer graphics and cell shading. Bryan Singer was in the room with the tech guys and animators and CGI people and he said that in that CGI animation they made 100 tornadoes for the dog fight sequence. 
 
 
It was awesomeness.I can give you the link to the fight if you'd like.
Posted by FadeToBlackBolt
@Aqua11500 said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@Aqua11500 said:

@PrinceIMC said:

Movie Storm just wasn't that powerful.
She created hundreds of Tornadoes with ease,at the same time....that isn't powerful, then i don't know what is ;)   GTFO :D  Between Storm and Mags they had the best feats in the movieverse,Magneto was better though.   and Storm or Bobby could have frozen that wave,but like above poster. it would  be a big hole in the story.
Wolverine's healing factor was capable of regenerating matter on a molecular level within microseconds. Jean was able to rip apart matter on a molecular level against multiple targets at once. Both of these two had greater feats than Storm or Magneto. 
Ugh i hate to count X-3,even though my fave X-men was bomb in it...lol j/k the movie wasn't that bad. 
 
 
Yeah but me personally i count Jean as regular Jean Grey and Dark  Phoenix separate,its a huge power gap.Besides If we go through just all characters feat x-1--in x-2 it would be between Storm and Magneto . 
 Though i agree, Wolverine while plot device still had very powerful healing factor and Jean could rip apart matter. 
 

I'm a Cyclops fan, you don't need to tell me how bad X-3 is :P 
 
Fair enough if you separate X2 and X3 Jean's, the power difference is huge. And X3 was BS in terms of power levels anyway. 
 
I'd actually put Storm above Magneto in terms of feats (in the movieverse) though. All he did was catch the Blackbird, lift some cars and screw with Cerebro. Storm organised dozens of tornadoes, while being shot at, to attack multiple foes flying at speeds over several hundred miles an hour. 
 
Oh, but Jean blew up ONE missile, so Storm's showing was hardly "some display of power". Fail, writers, fail.
Posted by Aqua11500
@fesak said:
Storm can't do anything, she's useless.
and your'e a troll 
 
 
They let you be a Moderator? 
 Fail x100...smh
 
This is a thread on what could Storm have done,not what she can't do.You know damn well what her powers are,she can control wind and water...stop being immature. 
 
 
Opinion is opinion at the end of the day,but  bias is bias..lol 
That was unnecessary. 
oh BTW just because you're a moderator doesn't mean i m going to be nice :)
Posted by bringdeath
@Vance Astro said:
If she did there would be a hole in the story and thus we wouldn't have gotten our first glimpse of Phoenix and a black woman would have been the hero.Hollywood can't have that.

Lol so true
Posted by xerogod

that movie was bogus and x3 was bogus and its stupid, jean culdve put up a force field around the x-jet (if shes such a strong person as you jean lovers say), all the movie people had to do was let storm create some more tornadoes or cause a lightning storm and target the missiles, or pyro couldve just dispursed the fire from behind the missels.
Posted by Aqua11500
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Aqua11500 said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@Aqua11500 said:

@PrinceIMC said:

Movie Storm just wasn't that powerful.
She created hundreds of Tornadoes with ease,at the same time....that isn't powerful, then i don't know what is ;)   GTFO :D  Between Storm and Mags they had the best feats in the movieverse,Magneto was better though.   and Storm or Bobby could have frozen that wave,but like above poster. it would  be a big hole in the story.
Wolverine's healing factor was capable of regenerating matter on a molecular level within microseconds. Jean was able to rip apart matter on a molecular level against multiple targets at once. Both of these two had greater feats than Storm or Magneto. 
Ugh i hate to count X-3,even though my fave X-men was bomb in it...lol j/k the movie wasn't that bad. 
 
 
Yeah but me personally i count Jean as regular Jean Grey and Dark  Phoenix separate,its a huge power gap.Besides If we go through just all characters feat x-1--in x-2 it would be between Storm and Magneto . 
 Though i agree, Wolverine while plot device still had very powerful healing factor and Jean could rip apart matter. 
 

I'm a Cyclops fan, you don't need to tell me how bad X-3 is :P   Fair enough if you separate X2 and X3 Jean's, the power difference is huge. And X3 was BS in terms of power levels anyway.   I'd actually put Storm above Magneto in terms of feats (in the movieverse) though. All he did was catch the Blackbird, lift some cars and screw with Cerebro. Storm organised dozens of tornadoes, while being shot at, to attack multiple foes flying at speeds over several hundred miles an hour.   Oh, but Jean blew up ONE missile, so Storm's showing was hardly "some display of power". Fail, writers, fail.
 
Yes sir,i agree X-3 was a mess..but being an X-men fan i still watched it and still bought the dvd =P 
 
 
lol,shame on meh... 
 
 
but very true everything you stated was correct.Though the only parts i liked about X-3 is Beast( spot on acting Kelsey!!) Kitty<3(adorable) ,Iceman transforming his entire body to ice,Storm flying,cool stunts and having a leadership role 
Magneto and that Golden gate bridge....thats it. 
 
Hated Scotts death,though it was never shown (and a x-4 is currently in production,so who knows) 
Hated Mystique's sacrifice 
Hated Juggernaut's voice =/(BTW nothing against Australian,it's a sexy accent)  
Hate the wrong depiction of Phoenix,which BTW messed up a lot of new X-men and Jean fans thinking she was born with it,when actually she encountered Phoenix in space...lol 
Hated the focus on Logan..well that's all of the movies i hated that.
Posted by FadeToBlackBolt
@Aqua11500 said:
Yes sir,i agree X-3 was a mess..but being an X-men fan i still watched it and still bought the dvd =P   lol,shame on meh...   but very true everything you stated was correct.Though the only parts i liked about X-3 is Beast( spot on acting Kelsey!!) Kitty<3(adorable) ,Iceman transforming his entire body to ice,Storm flying,cool stunts and having a leadership role Magneto and that Golden gate bridge....thats it.  Hated Scotts death,though it was never shown (and a x-4 is currently in production,so who knows) Hated Mystique's sacrifice Hated Juggernaut's voice =/(BTW nothing against Australian,it's a sexy accent)  Hate the wrong depiction of Phoenix,which BTW messed up a lot of new X-men and Jean fans thinking she was born with it,when actually she encountered Phoenix in space...lol Hated the focus on Logan..well that's all of the movies i hated that.
Juggs was British in X-3. And yes, we Aussies do have sexy accents :P 
 
There was a LOT of things wrong with X-3. And I agree with you on those being the only enjoyable parts. Colossus was one of the main X-Men, and barely had one line. It was not well written or directed. Just a mess all around.
 
I have the dvd as well :P
Posted by CellphoneGirl
@Vance Astro said:
If she did there would be a hole in the story and thus we wouldn't have gotten our first glimpse of Phoenix and a black woman would have been the hero.Hollywood can't have that.
ROFL!
Posted by Manchine
@PrinceIMC said:


                    Movie Storm just wasn't that powerful.

                   

               
Posted by fenixREVOLUTION
@StarKiller809 If she could've stopped the third movie, I would have been all for that.
Edited by Aqua11500
@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@Aqua11500 said:

Yes sir,i agree X-3 was a mess..but being an X-men fan i still watched it and still bought the dvd =P   lol,shame on meh...   but very true everything you stated was correct.Though the only parts i liked about X-3 is Beast( spot on acting Kelsey!!) Kitty<3(adorable) ,Iceman transforming his entire body to ice,Storm flying,cool stunts and having a leadership role Magneto and that Golden gate bridge....thats it.  Hated Scotts death,though it was never shown (and a x-4 is currently in production,so who knows) Hated Mystique's sacrifice Hated Juggernaut's voice =/(BTW nothing against Australian,it's a sexy accent)  Hate the wrong depiction of Phoenix,which BTW messed up a lot of new X-men and Jean fans thinking she was born with it,when actually she encountered Phoenix in space...lol Hated the focus on Logan..well that's all of the movies i hated that.
Juggs was British in X-3. And yes, we Aussies do have sexy accents :P   There was a LOT of things wrong with X-3. And I agree with you on those being the only enjoyable parts. Colossus was one of the main X-Men, and barely had one line. It was not well written or directed. Just a mess all around.  I have the dvd as well :P
Really i thought Vinnie Jones was an Australian? 
 
 
Oh well it still sounded weird on Juggy.You know how you just expect Juggs to sound kinda dumb and air headed without thinking first., well Vinnie sound too smart for him and was a pretty boy..lol    
 
Colossus looked good too <3  shiny! 
I wish they did give Peter a bigger role.Yeah Ratner screwed us all over,I hope Singer or Vaughn directs X-4 since right now there's no big signs of a reboot or giving rights back to Marvel. 
Posted by fesak
@Aqua11500 
Glad you agree.
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Posted by tbone1225

No. Because they played Storm wrong in the movies. And she wasn't all that interesting. My personal belief, though, is that Jean Grey could have saved them without sacrificing herself.

Posted by 8diagrams

You guys are making me realize that the Xmen movies could be a lot better than what we have seen so far (including first class).

Posted by ComicMan24

Actually Jean destroying that missile was an impressive display of power for her, if you consider her feats in the movies up to this point. As for the flood, don't know if Storm could stop it on her own but she could definitely help.

Posted by Osiris1428

Jean could have done all that in the freaking jet to begin with. And what was The Phoenix' motivation anyway? I have only seen X3 once, not too eager to see it again. And being that X-Men: First Class didn't just focus one person I thought was one of the reasons why it was far better than the other X-Men movies. It's one of the biggest problems I have with modern American cinema is the focus on just one character rather than a team when it's a team effort. In the old 'Mission: Impossible' series, there was a focus on the entire group, and how they deal with missions, and when they have to improvise. Then they made the one with Tom Cruise, and...well need I say more. And that movie where the school gets taken over and the kids fight back. I don't know the name-the kid who can draw gets caught and killed. The re-made the movie with Patrick Steward as the main antagonist and just focused on one kid. Needless to say, it sucked. If they continue with movie from X-Men: First Class, if they introduce Wolverine, make him a loner, and as big as a character on the earlier X-Men comics (as much as everyone else).

Posted by doordoor123
@AlexMilano13 said:
I know the movie happened back in 2004 and I haven't really checked to see if this question was asked before, but couldn't Storm have stopped the flood in X2 with her wind control or water control or something.
Shes also a lot weaker in the X-men movies. There would be no stories if she was stronger in the movie-verse. She could stop everything.
Posted by Aqua11500
@8diagrams said:
You guys are making me realize that the Xmen movies could be a lot better than what we have seen so far (including first class).
X-movies were good,my only complaint is too much wolvie and X3. ...other than that.
 
 
X1 and X2 were phenomenal though,X2 was the best of the series up until recently with first class
Posted by treysome

There's always a what if or why didn't this happen in movies.  Would of loved to see Singer's version of X3 though.

Posted by Ashra
X2 was my favorite, too much Wolverine/Jean ish in the 3rd movie for my taste.  Storm's haircut didn't help either. 
Posted by Aqua11500
@Ashra said:
X2 was my favorite, too much Wolverine/Jean ish in the 3rd movie for my taste.  Storm's haircut didn't help either. 
I agree 
 
but that cut was hot,i liked Storm hair,nice touch of low lights.reminded me of ultimate Storm
Posted by CATPANEXE

just throwing out notions here...
- It has been said that Singer states that none of them we're powerful enough in the use of their powers to stop that much rushing water with the X-Men of Jean who had advanced (unconfirmed, possibly in the directors commentary?)
- If I remember correctly, it's been awhile, didn't Jean hold them in place, and Storm attempted to do something (more in the last notion on this)?
- Jean could have tk floated herself anyways. Most of them could have done something
- Jean could have continued the tk wall against the tide, especially since the X-Jet was already airborne, and as indicated by the fire surrounding her, she was tapping the Phoenix Force at this point.
But the plot was that Jean actually allowed herself to drown as her now power levels were something she couldn't control completely as was the dark side of her persona (which was always present,
revealed later in X-3) so out of both fear of what she would potentially do to her loved one's should she lose control and belief that she needed to enter a new form to control her new powers encouraged
it to happen.

Edited by Storm Calling
@CATPANEXE: -

It has been said that Singer states that none of them we're powerful enough in the use of their powers to stop that much rushing water with the X-Men of Jean who had advanced (unconfirmed, possibly in the directors commentary?)

Actually in X2 commentary, Singer admitted that Storm could have generated a funnel to stop the water but he wanted that scene to represent the most powerful mutant. So the reason she wasn't allow to stop it was because she would have outshined Jean. Clearly someone with the power to generate a hundred tornadoes would have had the power to hold back the dam burst before it got to the jet.
Posted by CATPANEXE
@Storm Calling: clearly she could have, hence the rest of my post?
Edited by Storm Calling
@CATPANEXE said:

@Storm Calling: clearly she could have, hence the rest of my post?

That last part about her holding back the water wasn't specifically geared towards just your post. Sorry.
Posted by VickyVons
@8diagrams said:
You guys are making me realize that the Xmen movies could be a lot better than what we have seen so far (including first class).
I know, right?
Posted by KDarkholme

Yes. They totally slept on Storm in the movies.
Posted by Captain_Justice95

no. she is too busy getting her asskicked by everyone in the move
Posted by THUNDERBOLT30

I don't think any of the directors (Ratner or Singer) nailed Storm correctly in any of the x-movies. They seemed to build up on her in each movie, but didn't really nail her as well as they did Wolverine, Magneto or Xavier.I thought the flood scene was PIS, as Jean (or even Storm) could have simply lifted the x-jet above the onslaught of water hit. I understand that this was one of the power catalyst to get Jean to the PF level but this could have been done in a more dramatic way that catered to the plot vs. seeming forced and poorly executed.
Posted by EdwardWindsor

Screw Storm fixing the giant wave they had Iceman ! if ever there was a mutant you would want to help when a giant wave was coming it would be him. Instant stopping of the water

Posted by azaritorrent

those wolverine movies; x-1, x-2 and x-3 were bs. it took halle to read a damn comic with storm in it for her to say "hey storm isnt a backround character". even with a more important role. wolverine was still the leader of the x-men in x-3. professor x died and wolverine was hurt about it more than storm or anyone else for that matter. They made pheonix a split personality instead of an enitity. the last love scene with logan and jean was bs. how can she break matter apart but his skeleton is still intact? last i recall his skeleton doent have a healing factor. oh and then the weakest line in the x movies besides storms toad joke; "you will die for them?" .... really? oh wait then he said NO.... what a selfish fucking movie. all because he wanted his hairy little wee wee wet. man those moves were bitch shyt.
Posted by FortressoftheMoon

All of those great points I missed and noone (I'm specially disppointed in Aqua11500) spotted one of the most obvious flaw with Storm is her accent. Storms sounded too Hollywood and didnt have that erotic eastern hemisphere accent she was suppose to have. At least in the 90s cartoon Storm was somewhat convincing her upbringing in Africa.
 
Another thing that made me go "WTF?" was the scene when they were camping and Mystique goes into Logan's tent and after they made out then Logan pushes her off she starts morphing in different people then she stops at Stryker still giving a seductive look saying "What is it you really want?" I looked over to my girlfriend and whispered to her "Did this movie just hint Logan knows all there is to know about the Crying Game?"

 

Why was Rogue in Xmen movies, she did nothing in x2 or X3 except make ugly faces? 
 
Pyro attacking cops and the cops not shooting back. Yeah Logan get pwned to the shot in the head but soon as Pyro blasted the first set of cops the other cops should have opened fire.  It was a minority all of the cops all the cops would have opened fire using shotguns. 
 
 
Magneto getting stomped in a self-righteous debate by Logan in X1. Blasphepmy!  
Magneto leaving Mystique on the floor butt-naked walking saying "She was so beautiful." The lady looked the same, aint nothing some blue makeup and a red cosplay wig can't fix.  
 
Storm could have landed the Blackbird without Magento's help. The lady just summoned the same tornadoes that starred in Day after Tomorrow and she can't conjure up enough wind to land a jet?  
 
The scene being chased by Jets why summon tornadoes, Why not just summon some lightning strikes on the Jets or missiles?  
 
Since when Pyslocke from X3 turns invisble like the dude from the TICK? Ya'll now who I'm talking that cute asian chick with the dye purple hair hanging with Arclight and Spike  
 
Also the missing deleted scene when Logan goes to Jean Grey and comments about the "Display of Power" and Storm rudeley interrupts saying "What display of power? The %^&%ing plane still got hit. It was a display of Epic Fail. Tjhe only display of power she can do is chuck cereal bowls at Cyclops. Both of you really suck and I can't believe I have to give up screentime for this. At least with me I got beat up by a dude who can move like Darth Maul. Mr Scary Weapon X gets beat up by a girls and this one can't even levitate a book without getting a headache but she is a class 5 mutant. I'm gonna get drunk with the Magnetic Jew and Smurfette." 

Posted by _Sojourn_
@fesak said:
Storm can't do anything, she's useless.
I expect more from you... Flaming...really... SHAME
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