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So, I just picked up and read the first RHatO TPB and really enjoyed it, and my initial plan was to catch up and put this on my pull list. Seems like now I may just want to wait until the other trades come out to finish out Lobdell's arc, and wait to see how people are receiving Tynion's approach.

QUESTION: is it likely that the remainder of Lobdell's run will be collected in a Vol. 3 (Vol. 2 comes out in August, I believe)? Or is the tie-in to DotF likely to throw a wrench in that neatness?

I voted Jubilee, since Liu's X-23 introduced me to her but didn't really showcase her much. She and Psylocke are on my list of characters I wanted to read more about, and it sounds like this will be a great way to do that. Very happy to hear such great things about the creative team, too.

@Sharkbite: In the frame that @Target_X posted, Brand literally just asked Cammi to explain herself. I see no reason why you would ask someone a question and then banish them four words into their answer. And "Back home, I'm just" hardly flags "emo teen melodrama" incoming.

@JonSmith said:

She herself isn't so much a joke as her premise.

She's Squirrel Girl.

SQUIRREL. GIRL.

I can count all the animals less frightening than a squirrel on ONE hand.

They don't even have any real offensive weapons. Even a spider has fangs and venom.

Yet somehow she goes toe to toe with the heavy hitters: Thanos, Doctor Doom, Iron Man, Galactus, etc. Villains who register as a worldwide threat. Villains who Tony Stark looks at and thinks, "I am so glad I designed a waste disposal unit in my suit ages ago." Yet a hero with only medium level stats and an immensely underwhelming premise beats these guys handily. Now you say she beats her foes because they underestimate her. Let's bring in Thanos: This guy decided to destroy the universe to impress his crush. Look up the definition of 'Excessive Force' and you'll see a picture of his purple mug about to blast you. He underestimates EVERYBODY, because he's STRONG ENOUGH FOR IT NOT TO MATTER.

And Squirrel Girl beats him. She may be a perfectly reasonable character (In fact, I quite liked her brief appearance as the Earth's Mightiest Nanny) but the premise, of the least threatening hero in the universe beating up the number one bada**es of that universe is so ridiculous I can't help laugh. Hence, the joke.

QFHilarity

(Also, I am now very interested in this character)

@The Stegman said:

Well, all comic characters are made to look attractive...

So true.

@jphulk26 said:

First off, I want to say that I obviously don´t find drawings sexual or enjoy overly sexualized versions or objectified versions of female characters in comics.

I don't really think there's really anything obvious about that. If people didn't find drawings sexual or enjoy overly sexualized drawn characters there'd be...well let's just say the hentai industry alone proves it's worth not taking for granted :p. It's also a little weird to start a "who are you attracted to" thread by disclaiming the idea of finding drawings attractive.

No, but The Stegman's right, the majority of characters are intentionally drawn to be attractive, so to that end it really is personality that makes the difference. I think there's a commentary somewhere in there about real relationships, too. Anyhow, I honestly haven't been reading comics long enough to be harboring a legitimate crush yet, and the shallow list would be far too long.

I think it's funny that so many answers are more to who you think is overrated (or whose fans are more annoying) than who folks actually personally hate.

First character I've ever actually wanted to reach into the book and rip apart with my bare hands? Kimura.

@Decept-O: Hahaha. There probably aren't a lot of people would say "I really hope this isn't anything like Firefly." I guess we'll see.

@Vaccine said:

I never really ventured into that part of the world because I was turned off by the MANY continuities, arcs, story lines, issues of comic books that it had gotten too confusing for me to even decide where I should start from.

How very true. Even now I'm intimidated by cross-over events. It's basically impossible to get a full story from reading a single series. I can say this with certainty, though: if you're looking for a place to educate you on comics, you've definitely found it. Welcome!

@Decept-O said:

@ThomasElliot: Not trying to get into an argument and hopefully you're not trolling. You're taking my comment out of context.

I am saying...I want some action....I don't want the Avengers just to stand and around and talk about their "feelings".

I thought the first Avengers movie was pretty thick with dialogue and character exploration compared to typical action movies, but it was done so well that you probably didn't even notice (or care). Whedon's good at that. Don't worry, he won't turn this into a Nicholas Sparks film.

I routinely check this thread, but apparently I never actually posted in it? So...

@Avengers_4everXX said:

There is also speculation that Arcade's Murderworld is really just a virtual reality and that everyone is still alive.

As much as I would love for this theory to be true, as time goes by and I consider how adamant Hopeless has been about making it clear that people die in this book, the virtual reality thing -- at least, the everyone is still alive thing -- seems less and less likely. That said, the idea of survivors grouping up in some way (as opposed to future arcs still taking place within Murder World, with a different cast) would certainly make far more sense than an ongoing meat grinder.

Regarding your initial notion about the quality of the book, however, I'd note that when judging based on reactions it's worth focusing on what people are loving or hating. In this case, there aren't a lot of people calling the book bad because of the quality of the writing, but because of the events being written about. If you're on-board with the premise then this would probably qualify as a good book to you, though as @waezi2 seems to demonstrate that's not an ironclad theory.