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#1 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@MatKrenz: Yeah, like I said, I understand why people say don't judge it, and to wait. I'm not even sure what I'm doing is judging, per se. I'm simply taking all the evidence I've been given and trying to draw basic conclusions. And so far, absolutely everything, from the marketing to the interviews to Hopeless' twitter remarks/mockery of complainers to the solicits to what has actually happened in the books so far, suggests that these characters will actually die. As Ravager said, "Any development that you give them over the course of the book is rendered utterly and completely moot when they're just going to die in it, making it impossible to tell new stories about them with that development."

So I've been careful about criticizing the actual quality of the book. As much as I'm convinced it wouldn't be happening if not for the success of The Hunger Games, I won't go so far as to say it's "nothing more than a rip-off." And while he has given absolutely no reason for believing it, I'm even willing to concede that there may be a greater purpose to this book than killing off Marvel's undesirables. But so long as that purpose exists, no other purpose -- greater or otherwise -- will exonerate the book.

#2 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4: Yep. We're definitely on the same page. Dare I say, we're in the same echo chamber...

#3 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@minigunman123: But, like, we have a woman here who is an athlete saying she isn't flat-chested. No need for appeals to the convenient relative (not that it's fair to just assume everyone who says they have an aunt or uncle is lying). The point of this thread is to challenge stereotypes. We're really no better off if we say "all fit women have small breasts" because it's going to have exceptions to disprove it. I think it's fair to say that, while some sports may dictate different body types, on the whole the majority of fit women probably have smaller chests, and smaller chests than they would if they were to drop out of the sport.

I liked very much of what @SC said, but in particular:

I mean I love sexy woman, personally, and so I like sexy female characters in my comics, but my personal definition of sexy tends to be different from the majority, and I like my comics to have its fair share of sexy men, and unsexy men, and unsexy women, and body diversity, and character diversity, and costume diversity. Balancing act. What also might work for me, might not work for others. Try and cover bases without losing ground.

And the point about sexy character versus sexy clothing is definitely a strong one. I think the major reason that celebrity beach photos/private pictures are so sought-after and have such a big deal made over them is because we're used to seeing those people wearing clothing, so seeing what's underneath becomes a titillating experience. Once we know what's there, we lose interest. Bikini pictures are a big deal for every new bikini, but the moment an actress "goes nude" the rest fails to sell. You've got to wonder...if every (LEGAL) celebrity just did a naked photoshoot, would the paparazzi industry be half as successful? I kind of doubt it. For whatever reason, we're actually more turned on by the occasionally sexy outfit than by someone who is just showing off their wares at all times. Based on that, I think the industry would do well to have some more modest characters, so that when things got hot, it mattered.

#4 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@SC: Legitimately just laughed out loud.

#5 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4: Yeah, sounds like you and I are on a similar page, then. I lucked out when I visited Midtown Comics over the weekend and was able to buy all of Runaways, and I've just started the second volume (I think that's book 5/11). I fully understand why everyone kept telling me to read it, and the thought of Nico and Chase in this book makes me angrier the further I read. I wrote this before joining CV, and had I read Runaways, I'd have said the same things about Nico.

I've been writing a lot about my loathing for this book, but hearing Liu actually say she wanted to be writing Laura and had to "root for" her to survive? That really galled me. And the dimmer the chances become of a new Runaways volume, the worse my feelings about the book become. I'd love for this to all be a dream -- in the book too, for sure, but some days I feel like I need as much a reprieve as the characters.

#6 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@SC said:

No need for pants anymore since everyone has equally nice legs and so short shorts and skirts for everyone!

I find this idea offensive. But I forgive you, because you couldn't have known any better. You haven't seen my legs.

#7 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crash_Recovery said:

Uncanny X-Force (it's just not the same anymore)

I've heard this. I guess it depends where you're coming from. As one who has not had the pleasure of reading Remender's run, I can recommend the new one. But if you're trying to figure out which ones to follow and which ones to pick up in trade at some point instead, then you may wish to just plan on buying the collections of the last X-Force volume, as pretty much everyone seems to have loved it.

#8 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@snyderman567 said:

I agree and disagree. While co-existence is possible and admirable, mutants will never live in a world were everyone respects them and their lives are nothing but sunshine and unicorns. Just like in the real world, we will never live in a world where people of every race, gender, and religon will fully get along. What is possible is reducing prejudice to a rareity and increase morality and understanding. It may not be the ideal utopia, but it will be damn close to a perfect co-existence.

This comes pretty close to how I'd answer it. I've always read Magneto's position as an analog to racial differences in real life, so I certainly hope that coexistence isn't impossible.

That said, I think it's a bit short-sighted to believe that certain cultures and religions can persist in unity with one another. Some worldviews are so diametrically opposed to one another that the only means of achieving true peace would be the complete eradication of one of the two groups. Peace through conquest rather than through compromise. Now whether such a peace is actually better than a state of constant warfare, that's a very different question, but I think it's important to understand that Magneto and those who agree with him would bring about an end to war; the question is, at what cost.

#9 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis: Ah. I've seen the thread but kind of assumed it was the sort better left avoided (I get pulled into enough hot-headed arguments as it is, if you've not noticed ^_^). However if it truly is "more civil than not" perhaps I will contribute to it at some point.

Meanwhile, here, I agree that the subject risks going too tangentially. I suppose my salient question is the extent to which even those who identify themselves as, say, an equalist or a feminist, agree with each other. You've made it clear that there are some people who call themselves feminists who actually aren't, and some who, despite their protestations to the contrary, actually are. At what point do we draw the line between what people think themselves to be and what other people think them to be? I can call myself a unicorn trapped in a human's body, but of course I'm not. If I say I'm really a woman trapped in a man's body, these days some people will accept that and some people will think I may as well have just said I was a unicorn. This would suggest that a person's claims alone are insufficient for judging the validity of the ideologies with which they align, that external evidence is necessary (though there are some who would still say if I say I'm a woman, I'm a woman, end of story).

I actually like the idea of taking things on a case by case basis, because I may find the claims of oppression by some people absurd (for example, fat people who want society to stop telling them they should lose weight) while feeling very strongly the validity of the claims of others (your story about that little girl and her father continues to linger on my mind). As wonderful as it is to pretend we rally for all causes equally, we all draw lines, and because of those lines you're probably right in suggesting that an overall umbrella "equalist" movement would still ultimately be a collective of other -ists who just happened to be working together.


#10 Posted by akbogert (3213 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl: Oh, like I said, I'm surprised you didn't flip out more.

I got so angry over X-23 being in Avengers Arena that I actually almost threw up...and when the anger failed to subside I joined a comic community so I could vent about it to people who might potentially care. 284 posts later...well, I understand what it's like to be furious at what's being done to a character you adore.