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#1 Posted by akbogert (3285 posts) - - Show Bio

@CTG: First, as to unsubstantiated, as I said earlier, they have been proven in other threads -- I found proof for that before I even joined CV, in one of the first interviews Hopeless did. He requested characters for this book and was told -- even though they weren't going to be used by anyone else -- that he wasn't allowed to touch them. Several of the characters were from books which routinely underperform financially. I'm not going to bother arguing it because it's something that, again, has absolutely been established with links elsewhere.

Mettle's death served the book, not Mettle, not Academy fans. If you call that "meaningful" then our definitions are simply wildly incompatible. When you have the author promising fans of a character that should that character die, you'll have been respectful and you'll have honored the character's legacy -- and then kill the character in a way which only serves your selfish purposes as a writer, then no, you are not writing a meaningful death. And nothing whatsoever can be defended about the second death. None. There is no excuse for having killed anyone there -- she could have simply been injured, or just realized it was a roof. And if someone had to die, then that absolutely could have been a red shirt type new character, not a previously-existing one.

#2 Posted by akbogert (3285 posts) - - Show Bio

@bsmith1190: Oh believe me, I have been going to town on this one. I practically have a second house there.

But like I say -- this is one case where I hope all my ranting and raving turns out to have been pointless. I've never been so eager to be entirely humiliated.

#3 Posted by akbogert (3285 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: This was quite an insightful response, and that middle paragraph in particular will stick with me for sure.

On a tangential note, it also makes me understand why some people just cannot accept Injustice, no matter how well it's done.

#4 Posted by akbogert (3285 posts) - - Show Bio

@DonFelipe: Well I think the key is the word "essential." In theory the list is supposed to cover books that are almost guaranteed to be good or worth picking up; the controversy suggests that Constantine may not meet that criteria (certainly not the "guarantee" -- though of course the list is subjective). Injustice (which, by the way, while related to the game isn't actually an adaptation or even really a prequel, as it's planned to continue well beyond the game and in fact already has had things in it which contradict the game) has been consistently good for its whole run, so it's a safe bet.

#6 Posted by akbogert (3285 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis: I think we were talking about how, since Disney owns Marvel, Gambit is the most attractive Disney princess.

#7 Posted by akbogert (3285 posts) - - Show Bio

@Technicolorville: Which position? The only position I have been given is an anti-position in response to a point no one actually made...

#8 Posted by akbogert (3285 posts) - - Show Bio

See, this is the problem with this thread: it runs a very real risk of becoming stupid. I'm not calling OP misogynistic because technically all he did was state the facts (though obviously there are ways you could have phrased it that were less blameful and more recognizing it was an accident). Anyone could have accidentally spilled into the open drawer. Heck, OP could have. It happens. It sucks, and you look back and know how it could have been avoided, but the idea of any kind of repercussion against this poor girl is just stupid and shame on the folks whose "dump her" or "make her pay" or any kind of remark on how careless she was were anything beyond complete tongue-in-cheek jokes (and even then, just remember, be careful how you say things on the Internet).

#9 Posted by akbogert (3285 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis: It explains why Remy gets away with so much... :P

#10 Edited by akbogert (3285 posts) - - Show Bio

@CTG: No, you've actually drawn a false causal from what I said. Yes, I am complaining that pre-existing characters are being killed (primarily because their deaths were literally the selling point used to promote this book for the first month or so and prior to launch). But of course Hopeless is one among hundreds (or at least dozens) to have killed characters he didn't create. Once more you are criticizing a position that no one actually holds. The complaint is that this book is going to (and has been promised to) kill at least a handful of niche characters whom Marvel did not deem popular or financially viable enough to justify keeping alive. This complaint is further exacerbated by Hopeless actually having declared that all the deaths would be respectful and meaningful and earned, both in interviews and, again, in the letters section of the book itself -- ironically directly after Mettle died. Those complaints are entirely valid, and debating them equally a waste of time.

I'm simply saying that it's sad that the first truly earned/well-planned death was given to a character who didn't even exist before the first issue of this series, after two far less-meaningful/earned deaths (by your own words) had befallen established characters.