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DC Beyond Imprint - Should it/Shouldn't it happen?

Perhaps not anytime soon, due to all the titles we're getting this year from September onwards, but eventually? Marvel has their standard line and 'Ultimate' line, and DC could do something similar with this. The reason I want this to happen isn't really anything Marvel-related though.
 
A user called Amegashita posted a rather insightful blog post regarding children in comics a while back ( check it out if you haven't already), and it got me thinking. This
Flashpoint
Flashpoint
relaunch doesn't seem to be intending to change too much. Yes, some characters will have different roles than before, and there'll be new characters, but I think what it's actually doing is removing a lot of the fluff surrounding characters, to enable us to, atleast to an extent, 'discover' those characters again. But my problem with this is that it's sacrificing some of character-building that was done in recent years - specifically regarding the change of roles that was beginning to happen. Dick Grayson became (Gotham's) Batman, Kyle Rayner was slowly but surely becoming *the* GL in the eyes of fans (despite Geoff Johns supposed efforts to prevent this), Aqualad becoming a surprise hit (well, the Aquaman stuff in general, but him in particular) among fans during Brightest Day heck, I'm sure this was scripted a while back - Lex Luthor meets his demise in Action Comics #900 (and he got one hell of a send off) The DCU was entering a phase the people like Bruce Wayne, Superman, etc could being moving into JSA-like roles, and the younger characters becoming the 'big heroes'. Instead, the DCU is getting shaken up and being made unfamiliar, but the younger characters have seemingly been further cemented in their current roles. That's where Beyond could come in.
 
 Terry & The Justice League
 Terry & The Justice League
Beyond could sorta act as the opposite to this, where the story takes place in the future, where the DCU has changed, along with the characters that inhabit it. Batman Beyond getting an ongoing opened up a huge door of possibilities, and I'm sure DC is aware of it, because they're also planning two more titles, Superman Beyond and Justice League Beyond. I think that they should go the 'Ultimate Universe' route, and release an entire line of Beyond titles. Other than the three titles already mentioned, who could get a Beyond title?
 
Aquaman Beyond? They could make the current Aqualad this time period's Aquaman (lol Blaquaman) They could play on this by having sections of the Atlantean higher-ups against him, since he's not a 'true atlantean' in the first place. Also, Aquaman is supposedly in at the moment.   
Static Beyond? I'm sure some of you remember that Static/Batman Beyond crossover, where it was revealed Static in the Beyond time period was a world-renouned superhero, and very powerful in his own right. Deserving of a one-shot atleast, right? 
Green Lantern Beyond? This would have to happen really, considering how huge GL is. Remember
 Superman Beyond
 Superman Beyond
Kai-Ro, the GL from Beyond's Justice League? The different corps aren't as touched upon in DCAU outside the GL toons, it'd be interesting to see how it's all changed over the course of 30 years.    

Something else that'd make it very exciting if it happened, is to see how much of the Earth-0's continuity they'd implement. Did Batman Inc. exist? Did Damian Wayne exist? If so, what happened to them? Do you agree/disagree? Please feel free to discuss.

P.S. I'm going abroad for about 60 days later today. This will be one of my last posts here for a while.
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The Batman Beyond title worked because it was about a kid growing up and becoming the man he needs to be, not because of lasers and a 2099 rehash.
 
So no, none of them will work as for your latter questions:
 
Batman Inc. does exist in Batman Beyond.
 
I think Damian does too.

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@TheCrowbar: I'd agree if DC weren't releasing a Superman Beyond one-shot, and are supposedly planning a JLA Beyond thing. I think they feel theres some sorta potential in this.
 
Also, I completely forgot about Damian and Batman #700, my bad. But where was it stated that Batman Inc. existed in Beyond?
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@Adnan said:
@TheCrowbar: I'd agree if DC weren't releasing a Superman Beyond one-shot, and are supposedly planning a JLA Beyond thing. I think they feel theres some sorta potential in this.  Also, I completely forgot about Damian and Batman #700, my bad. But where was it stated that Batman Inc. existed in Beyond?

When the Batman Inc. refence was put in, I think the writers werent sure if it was a continuation of the DCU or the DCAU. But if you read the comments in the back of every books, fans have stated that they wanted it to be part of the DCAU. I think theyve started to write it as part of the DCAU.  
 
I would hate to see a Green Lantern Beyond or Aquaman Beyond. Maybe a new character that we havent seen beyonded.  
Static would be a good choice. He was in that time travel justice league episode as part of the beyond universe.  
What happened to the rest of the heroes? werent they killed in some event or something? I thought thats why there were so few heroes in the Justice League.
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@doordoor123: I presume the Batman Inc. reference is from the ongoing then, I haven't been picking it up due to shortage of money.
 
And those were just random examples. Though each of those titles would most likely bring in a number of new characters.
 
I think it was something like that, though theres the whole thing in Flashpoint about heroes always being present, but they're just harder to find in that circumstance. I don't see why they can't do something similar with Beyond, though not to the same extent of course.
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There's got to be a Flash Beyond. I mean the Speed Force reaches through time and space to empower people.

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@Adnan said:
@doordoor123: I presume the Batman Inc. reference is from the ongoing then, I haven't been picking it up due to shortage of money.   And those were just random examples. Though each of those titles would most likely bring in a number of new characters.   I think it was something like that, though theres the whole thing in Flashpoint about heroes always being present, but they're just harder to find in that circumstance. I don't see why they can't do something similar with Beyond, though not to the same extent of course.
Yeah it was one of the first one going issues where Dick Grayson mentions he used to be part of Batman Inc. to the press.
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@TheCrowbar said:
@Adnan said:
@doordoor123: I presume the Batman Inc. reference is from the ongoing then, I haven't been picking it up due to shortage of money.   And those were just random examples. Though each of those titles would most likely bring in a number of new characters.   I think it was something like that, though theres the whole thing in Flashpoint about heroes always being present, but they're just harder to find in that circumstance. I don't see why they can't do something similar with Beyond, though not to the same extent of course.
Yeah it was one of the first one going issues where Dick Grayson mentions he used to be part of Batman Inc. to the press.

Actaully it was issue 3
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@doordoor123 said:
@TheCrowbar said:
@Adnan said:
@doordoor123: I presume the Batman Inc. reference is from the ongoing then, I haven't been picking it up due to shortage of money.   And those were just random examples. Though each of those titles would most likely bring in a number of new characters.   I think it was something like that, though theres the whole thing in Flashpoint about heroes always being present, but they're just harder to find in that circumstance. I don't see why they can't do something similar with Beyond, though not to the same extent of course.
Yeah it was one of the first one going issues where Dick Grayson mentions he used to be part of Batman Inc. to the press.
Actaully it was issue 3
Which would be considered "One of the first ones"
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@TheCrowbar said:
@doordoor123 said:
@TheCrowbar said:
@Adnan said:
@doordoor123: I presume the Batman Inc. reference is from the ongoing then, I haven't been picking it up due to shortage of money.   And those were just random examples. Though each of those titles would most likely bring in a number of new characters.   I think it was something like that, though theres the whole thing in Flashpoint about heroes always being present, but they're just harder to find in that circumstance. I don't see why they can't do something similar with Beyond, though not to the same extent of course.
Yeah it was one of the first one going issues where Dick Grayson mentions he used to be part of Batman Inc. to the press.
Actaully it was issue 3
Which would be considered "One of the first ones"

Well i dont think there are enough issues to call it one of the first ones.
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@PrinceIMC: SpeedForce should certainly show up in some shape or form. Bart Allen would be the obvious choice, I guess.
 
@TheCrowbar: @doordoor123: Regardless, thanks for replying. I'll look it up.
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@Adnan said:
@PrinceIMC: SpeedForce should certainly show up in some shape or form. Bart Allen would be the obvious choice, I guess.
 
@TheCrowbar: @doordoor123: Regardless, thanks for replying. I'll look it up.
I think any Beyond universe should mostly be new characters taking up the mantles of the classic heroes. Superman should be the exception. Bruce can still help Terry but I don't want Bart just to be the Flash. Preferably Bart's kid or maybe just Irey West, she could be fun.
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I saw your blog and I was impressed. For me, I have a firm belief though that the Beyond Universe can merge with New Earth because so many critiques of New Earth have already been integrated into Batman Beyond. Read issue 4 of Batman Beyond 2011 series. There is mentioning of Batman INC and the Unthernet. However, if Batman Beyond becomes like Ultimate Marvel and continues to progress then I will be content. Thanks for your support, friend.  
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@Primmaster64: I don't remember seeing that in Batman #700...
 
@PrinceIMC: I do think some characters are young enough to continue the legacy of their teachers, but I agree that this shouldn't be done across the board. Iris West as the 'Flash' could be cool. 
 
@RavenVice01: Thanks for giving it a read. Although linking New Earth with Earth-12 would definitely be interesting, the one potential problem is that it might end up restricting, if only to a minor degree, the amount of creative freedom the writers for both the New Earth and Earth-12 titles have, since they have to be careful not to contridict each other too much. Thing is, Earth-12 (i.e. DCAU) is basically a melting pot of loads of ideas and events, so I think that they could blur the lines without actually merging the two together quite easily.
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Yeah, you maybe right. I saw those other users reply to your blog. What was there take on the matter?
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@Adnan: Primmaster64's post is from Superman/Batman #75.
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Static Beyond is needed. It's a great character to see the future of. We seen him grow, would love to see him grown.

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I'd like it, but I'm a sucker for cyberpunk superheroes in a dystopian future. Be it Beyond or 2099, I'm down. However, I agree that if they're going to do it, they'd need to maintain the same tone that made Batman Beyond good. Beyond has a different tone from Marvel's 2099 books. I'd even appreciate the animated art style. 
 
I actually just put together my own "future justice league roster" in another thread, I may as well repost here. I think it'd work for a "Justice League Beyond" title: 
 

@fodigg said: 
Okay, so I threw my own "Future JL" roster together. In the below roster, I am trying to mix up the various "younger generations" into one roster (e.g., general sidekicks, young justice, teen titans, etc). I tried to be close to the original power-set without being tied to it. 

Batwoman - Cassandra Cain
Superman - Conner Kent
Martian Manhunter - Megan Morse
Static - Virgil Hawkins
Aqualad - Jackson Hyde
Wonder Woman - Donna Troy
Flash - Wally West
Gold Arrow - Mia Dearden 
 

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I really wanted Cassandra on there because I like the idea of a Batwoman being on the team instead of a Batman. Besides, it's not like the other sidekicks can't find their own gigs. I could easily see Tim Drake getting involved in Checkmate with Stephanie Brown. Oh, and I really like the idea of Wally West being, instead of the impetuous youth of the team, the elder statesman. 
 
The big "gap" in power-set here is that there's no GL, but I feel like Static can still stand as a spiritual successor of John Stewart considering the friendship these two characters showed in the JL animated stuff.
The only thing I'd change of the above is ditch Cassandra for Terry. I'd also probably then switch Connor out for Kara as Superwoman, because I liked having an even gender split. 
 
So my JL Beyond roster would look like: