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#1  Edited By Acrosurge

If Eggman could make something of X's caliber that would make him Dr. Wily. But Eggman isn't Wily and must instead rely on mystic artifacts and stolen technology to compete.

As I posted it earlier, Shadow and Sonic have no way to effectively fight X and Zero. Zero is a bit less mobile than X, but not by much. Shadow's Chaos Control powers are nothing special for the Maverick Hunters. X and Zero have fought many foes who use giant, exotic, energy blasts and time manipulation abilities. The Hunters are on a different level above Sonic and Shadow and as I said earlier, X and Zero have decades worth of experience fighting as a team. They're one of the best fighting duos out there, in fact, with their skill sets complimenting each other near perfectly. Sonic and Shadow... well, they often don't get along very well. Sonic and Shadow vs Mega Man and Bass would be more interesting.

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#2  Edited By Acrosurge

Would class 100 strength help? Mega Man has it. He knocks three story robots over with punches and has lifted a portion of Dr. Wily's fortress to save his creator. He's also lifted and tossed Wily's Supermechasaurus. Rock's durability and firepower aren't too shabby either. His uncharged shots can bust boulders and puncture steel. He's resisted 500,000 volts of electricity, temperatures near absolute zero, 12,000 degree C heat, lightning strikes, and numerous ballistics.

I dunno if that changes anything, since I'm really not that familiar with the current version of the Blue Beetle. I can state that the Beetle has a huge advantage in intellect. While the original Mega Man has a lot of fighting experience and an unwavering desire to protect innocents, he possesses the AI personality of a ten year old.

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#3  Edited By Acrosurge

With morals on, there's no way X would ever fight the X-Men in the first place, even recognizing them as mutants. Therefore, they'd destroy him.

But... assuming he did fight them for some reason, X actually would bust this team with the abilities given him here. His Command Mission armor gives him a charge shot that sends a literal hail of large plasma blasts to track and strike targets with 100% accuracy. In other words, they could not be evaded by any of the X-Men listed in this match. X's Buster blasts are able to vaporize boulders and punch holes through armor plate much more durable than steel, so one attack like this is really all it would take. X is a durability monster and has walked through much worse than what the X-Men can offer offensively, including concussive blasts, explosives, elemental attacks of every variety, and black holes that have swallowed entire city blocks. X's less durable peer, Zero, has even been sliced with blades sharpened at the molecular level. It should be mentioned that Rogue would have no way to take his powers, since he's an advanced android and not an organic life form.

This version of X also has faster mobility and reflexes than this version of the X-team. The extra weapons and armors X was given here are really icing on the cake. I'm not seeing much X-Men can do to him, unless Rogue has been granted some new, heavy duty powers.

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#4  Edited By Acrosurge

My apologies. I fear I may be on a bit of a Mega Man apologetic roll.

In there base forms, Mario has no way to hurt Mega Man. Rock's durability, agility, firepower, and physical strength far dwarf the diminutive plumber. I will give Mario the edge in jumping ability, but that really is no counter for what Mega Man can bring. Mega Man is used to taking missiles to the face. A stomp isn't going to harm him at all.

If power ups are given, Mega Man's victory becomes even easier. Not only can he stop time, hit Mario with 20x gravity and then antigravity, black holes, tornadoes, lightning, acid rain, and astroids (and so much more), but he has the perfect answer to Mario's Star power. Beat Shield provides complete invulnerability for over a minute. This is way longer than Mario's invincibility lasts.

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#5  Edited By Acrosurge

@UltimateHero0406:

No. Neither is X a Neo Nazi. :)

X. Having proven his reflexes against speedsters with a good deal more power than Sonic, I'm not really seeing a way for Sonic to stalemate X with speed, let alone actually beat him. Thus far, the official statistics for Sonic place his running speed (without outside help) between Mach 1 to a little over Mach 3, and even then it takes him time to accelerate to Mach 3.

Speed isn't enough. He's got nothing to overcome X's durability, reflexes, agility, physical strength, and firepower. Sonic is cool. But he's not the one with limitless potential here.

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@soduh2 said:

Game play, Sonic supposedly approached lightspeed in his base form on Sonic Colors for the DS. After Omega let him know about how fast he was going Sonic bragged that light speed "is too slow".

When was that quote again? I was looking for it, but can't seem to find it. You bump into Omega during the Asteroid Coaster missions, but I don't think Omega tells Sonic that he's approaching lightspeed at that time. Perhaps it happens somewhere else?

The wisps in Sonic Colors added quite a bit of upgrades to Sonic's powers, including the ability to travel in light (laser) form, but they're the ones who held that power, not Sonic. I'm not familiar with any other official material that states that Sonic can reach lightspeed on his own. The Lightspeed Attack was the result of an upgrade and required quite a bit of charge time standing still then limited Sonic's speed before he used the move. The Lightspeed Dash required a trail of rings. Both were stylish, but rather limited in their versatility.

In any case, none of this really alters Sonic's odds against X, IMO. X has too many advantages for the Blue Blur to overcome.

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#7  Edited By Acrosurge

Actually I was also under the impression that Sonic's top speed was a little over mach 3 (this is the most recent top speed that he was actually shown to reach in Sonic Unleashed, but this speed included upgrades). Is there a source that states that his top normal running speed is faster? As far as hard stats are concerned, without any level-ups or upgrades, it would appear that Sonic's top boosting speed is more between 600-1,000 mph, basically between Mach 1 and 2.

Oh, and the specific information regarding Zero's speed statistics is from the Power Levels cards included with the bios for Marvel vs Capcom 3, which gave a ballpark top speed for Zero between Mach 2 and Orbital Velocity. I chose the absolute lowest estimate to give Sonic every advantage. I wouldn't put much stock in them otherwise, except that it corresponds to battles with enemies from the actual Mega Man universe.

As for team battles, X and Zero would still take the win from Sonic and Shadow. Despite simply overpowering them, X and Zero have much more experience fighting as a team than do Sonic and Shadow (who often don't get along so well). If Shadow is allowed Chaos control it might make things a bit interesting, but time-stopping techniques are something X and Zero have already overcome, and Shadow's blast attacks are nothing special compared to what X and Zero have been through in their centuries of fighting.

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#8  Edited By Acrosurge

Mega Man X stomps Sonic every day except Chaos Emerald Thursday. C'mon folks, the original Mega Man has the reflexes and agility to keep up with Sonic, having fought faster speedsters like Quick Man, Slash Man, and Pluto (and Mega Man has huge strength, durability, and firepower advantages over Sonic). X is much more advanced than Mega Man, in many respects, over 10x so according to his specs. X's enemies are faster and many of the speedsters in his boss gallery can teleport-blitz (Kuwanger, Centipede, Sigma, etc.). According to MvC3, Zero (X's slower peer) can move and react at velocities around Mach 2 (likely with his Dash Accelerator). This fits nicely with Zero's battles against supersonic enemies such as Harpuia, Lunaedge, and Feram. X is stated to be faster than Zero and more agile. There's no way he's getting speed blitzed by the Blue Blur.

X's projectiles are powerful and huge. The original Mega Man was able to bust boulders with uncharged shots and punch holes in steel plate. X's are 17 times more powerful. There's no way Sonic will evade them all. X's durability is also way out of Sonic's league. Without special armor, X is protected by a flexible, "Titanium X" alloy and a skeletal system that neutralizes 93% of incoming ballistic and directed energy impacts. X has tanked a multi-kiloton nuclear detonation at ground zero without a scratch (MMX2). And please, no instant-spike death arguments. Unless Sonic's spines are sharpened at the molecular level he isn't insta-killing X.

Another thing to consider is that by Command Mission, X has been battling powerful war machines for over a century. That's a lot of battle experience, far more than Sonic has acquired. This gives X a huge advantage in strategy and battle prowess.

IMO, Mega Man could draw with Sonic or beat him. X walks all over the Hedgehog. Totally different league.

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#9  Edited By Acrosurge

Battle revival. Copy X's power is on a completely different level than Metal Sonic. I don't see the current version of Metal Sonic taking Mega Man. There's no way he could take on the vastly more powerful Copy X.

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#10  Edited By Acrosurge

^Officially, Mario has been stated to have been born in the Mushroom Kingdom or some province nearby. While Sonic is fast, that's all he's got on these two in a no power up battle; he isn't fast enough to overcome Mega Man's reflexes, durability, strength, and firepower. Super transformations are a different story, however.

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