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#1 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

@wells said:
@acer51 said:

@saiyan_earthling said:

@acer51 said:

Wait why did Spider-man punch Cap?

Because Cap knew that Flash Thompson, who Spider-Man considers to be someone important to him, was Agent Venom, and Cap never told him.

But Captain America doesn't know Spider-mans secret identity so he has no way of knowing that he's friends with flash. I mean Flash Thompson was the president of the Spider-man fan club but without knowing Spider man's peter theirs really no reason Captain America should feel obligated to tell him that.

yeah, but whether he knew that spider-man knew flash personally cap still should have at least told him that the venom symbiote was bonded to a new host.

But Spider-mans known about agent Venom since Spider-island, if Cap deserved a punch for that it should have happened a long time ago and not at a time where Spider-mans credibility is in question.

Just looks like bad writing to me.

#2 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

@war_killer: @acer51: Actually there IS a difference between cartoon rights and TV show rights. Marvel is not allowed to use characters such as Spider Man or X-Men in any live action TV show. Look up "Mutant X" which was a TV show in like 2003 about unique (as in new) characters with the X-gene that Marvel produced with some other company. Fox ended up suing them because it broke their deal with the X Men rights.

Oh well that ship is sailed then.

Maybe they could make cartoons that somehow fit into the MCU?

#3 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

@war_killer said:
@acer51 said:

Wait if Lionsgate entertainment bought Man-Thing why was he name dropped towards the end of the S.H.I.E.L.D show.

I haven't watched AoS, but I do know that there are some loopholes with Marvel being able to use certain characters on TV, but not in the movies. Like I believe Marvel currently has the TV rights to Spider-Man, while Sony has the movie rights. Meaning that, from my understanding...though I could be wrong, Marvel could do a TV show staring Spider-Man, they just can't have him appear in the movies with The Avengers.

If my understanding of this is correct, though I'm not 100% sure it is, the same thing could be applied to Man-Thing. Even if his movie rights are owned by another studio, if Marvel has the TV rights to the character then they should be able use him AoS all they want...but if they want to mention his name in say, Avengers 2, then they are unable to because they don't have the movie rights for him.

Not sure if all of that is correct, but that's one way I saw how it was explained. Movie rights by themselves can get a bit messy in terms of who can and can't use certain characters, so when you throw TV rights into the mix, then everything gets even more confusing.

That would be right because they run a cartoon series with Spider-man albeit not a fan but it stars the character and run on T.V there can't be a difference between cartoon rights and t.v rights.

If this is true it means they could use Spider-man, the daily bugle and all those guys to help support the t.v shows.

The problem with that though is, even if they have Spider-Man appear in say, Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D., because Marvel doesn't have the movie rights to Spider-Man, even if they establish him in the MCU through AoS, he still wouldn't be able to appear in Avengers alongside Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor. Some might not think that a big deal, but with Spider-Man being one of Marvel's biggest characters, having him appear alongside their other big characters would be more beneficial for them.

Not to mention that say, if Marvel did have Spider-Man appear in a TV show set in the MCU, and if they then got the movie rights back, they would have to continue using the same Spider-Man that appeared in the TV show. They could get a new actor, but because it's still all one universe and Marvel isn't planning on rebooting it, they would still have to use whatever version of Spider-Man they used in the show. They can't have one Spider-Man appear in a TV show, yet have a completely different Spider-Man appear in a movie, not when both are suppose to be in the same universe.

So even though Marvel does have the TV rights to Spider-Man, until they get the movie rights back they're limited on what they can really do with the Web-Head. And with him being one of this biggest characters, the last thing they would want is to screw up any chance of introducing him into their ever expanding movieverse.

He doesn't need to take off his mask at any point, if he's just making appearances on the Daredevil show there's no reason for it and if they get a good actor and he gets popular they'll want to use the same guy anyway. There's no way they'd be able to get away with this without declaring legal war on Sony though.

#4 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

Wait if Lionsgate entertainment bought Man-Thing why was he name dropped towards the end of the S.H.I.E.L.D show.

I haven't watched AoS, but I do know that there are some loopholes with Marvel being able to use certain characters on TV, but not in the movies. Like I believe Marvel currently has the TV rights to Spider-Man, while Sony has the movie rights. Meaning that, from my understanding...though I could be wrong, Marvel could do a TV show staring Spider-Man, they just can't have him appear in the movies with The Avengers.

If my understanding of this is correct, though I'm not 100% sure it is, the same thing could be applied to Man-Thing. Even if his movie rights are owned by another studio, if Marvel has the TV rights to the character then they should be able use him AoS all they want...but if they want to mention his name in say, Avengers 2, then they are unable to because they don't have the movie rights for him.

Not sure if all of that is correct, but that's one way I saw how it was explained. Movie rights by themselves can get a bit messy in terms of who can and can't use certain characters, so when you throw TV rights into the mix, then everything gets even more confusing.

That would be right because they run a cartoon series with Spider-man albeit not a fan but it stars the character and run on T.V there can't be a difference between cartoon rights and t.v rights.

If this is true it means they could use Spider-man, the daily bugle and all those guys to help support the t.v shows.

#5 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

The sexism isn't in that I recognize that the male characters are more powerful the sexism is that their just written that way.

#6 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait if Lions-gate has Man-Thing why was he mentioned towards the end of the S.H.I.E.L.D.

#7 Edited by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

Wolverine, Deadpool, and possibly Magneto are the only ones that wouldn't bomb.

Any movie can succeed with the right marketing.

And writing.

#8 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait if Lionsgate entertainment bought Man-Thing why was he name dropped towards the end of the S.H.I.E.L.D show.

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#10 Posted by acer51 (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Males stomp.

Odin isn't needed

SEXIST!

That's probably is the case but his stance is defensible.