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Who did I insult bro? Is calling somebody a boy an insult? You don't want to hear truth that J'onn was always beneath Superman, fine with me. Don't come up with out of context feats.

Haha, what? Manhunter fanboys derailed it with "J'onn will leave superman a vegetable and what not", not me. I just posted feats.

That's pre-flashpoint where J'onn healed from a severed hand. Trevor outright stated that Zod nearly killed him. Also J'onn was fighting all right.

Hey, I'm not the one who came running here to defend Manjobber's leftover dignity. I was just posting feats.

Except that's what happened in the comic. You could go all HF and what not, it wouldn't change the fact that Zod almost killed him with a few punches after blitzing him. Case closed.

Grodd was beating J'onn two pages later while being weakened due to controlling superman and aquaman and that was Byrne Superman to boot.

I speak truth boy. Its hard to deal with. Run away again. Here's what happened two pages later by the same Grodd.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16859106/JLA-Incarnations2-30.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16859107/JLA-Incarnations2-31.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16859108/JLA-Incarnations2-32.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16859109/JLA-Incarnations2-33.jpg.html

He literally turned J'onn in a pile of goo. Not everything CitizenBane says is true I'm afraid.

Not getting almost killed in a few punches would be top on the list.

I know all about them. J'onn reading a superman who was dying from kryptonite poisoning and wasn't even resisting is your proof? Where is your proof of J'onn performing the same feats as Captain Comet who Superman threw out of his mind when he blanketed his mind? Or Susie Thompkins? Or Hammond, insect queen or Psycho Pirate? Hammond was declared the most powerful telepath on earth, Insect queen was his peer and Pirate was more powerful than either. J'onn isn't anywhere near them.

Barely a physical edge? Hahaha, Zod nearly killed Manjobber with a few punches. The last time you came against me, you ran to Bane for help and then literally ran away. You don't have any knowledge worth mentioning boy. I know literally everything about superman and J'onn both pre flashpoint and after it.

"And you overrule the many times in Pre Flashpoint history when J'onn has mindwiped Superman like a book. Heck featless White Martians have made Superman think that there was kryptonite in front of him."

Name one time. The nameless martians were successful because he didn't know they were a telepath, as soon as he knew they were martians he broke the illusion. Don't worry though, a single nameless martian beat J'onn via TP in Terror Incognita.

And its pretty much BS. Surfer left BRB drooling on his feet with two punches just after that. A super skrull with the strength of Titania, Thundra, Volcana and Bloodaxe combined beat the tar out of him. Tanaraus amped wrecking crew beat the tar out of him. None of these are on Doomsday's level of strength.

Martian Manhunter couldn't even budge Doomsday with his best punch and Doomsday took the full power energy blast of Superman, J'onn, Guy Gardner (a clone of him with the same ring oneshotted Captain Atom, Bloodwynd and Maxima and Wonder Woman separately), Fire and Booster Gold without even missing a beat. These kind of feats matter more than who destroyed what planet and survived what planet's destruction. Superman even before DOS survived a planet larger than jupiter blowing up under a red sun and kryptonite. Doomsday literally beat him to death.

Get out with this "jobbing". Its a respect thread. Psi war had telepaths "far stronger" than manjobber beating superman. Superman resisted TP of a 5 D imp who threw the emotions of ENTIRE CREATION in his head. J'onn has done nothing on that level.

That has happened so often in comics, hasn't it?

Doomsday wins.